Anybody think they should change the lockpicking system

dbgager · February 2017

Its a totally reflex hand and eye coordination system. I believe it should be changed to a skill based system. Another skill that you could put points into. Would remove frustration form those that have difficulty with it.

UrQuan · February 2017

Well, there's already a skill you can put skill points into for it: Locksmith in the Legerdemain skill line. At the top rank it gives you a very good chance of forcing any lock, and entirely removes the reflex hand eye coordination aspect of it.

Personally, even on my characters with full skill points in that, I usually pick locks the traditional way, which I find to be very easy once you get the hang of it. Having said that, if you're lagging or your FPS is low, it can be impossible to pick a lock.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

Do the dlc and put points in the passive for thieves guild but otherwise it's fine. I don't farm them but I grab when I see em.

Aztlan · February 2017

No, and I say this as someone who really struggled with it at first. You get the hang of it. Also, with Thieves Guild passives maxed you can just force locks with an 80% or so success rate.

Now if only I could get the hang from of VMSA.

UrQuan · February 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Do the dlc and put points in the passive for thieves guild but otherwise it's fine. I don't farm them but I grab when I see em.

The skill you're thinking of isn't from the TG DLC. It's in the Legerdemain skill line, and it's been part of the base game since the justice system was introduced.

dbgager · February 2017

Well its not fine for everybody . Not everybody who plays this game is young with perfect reflexes.

KICHZY · February 2017

Absolutely not, The system is unique.

dbgager I struggled at first as well but over time it got easier to the stage now where I pick the lock within 2/3 seconds without even thinking about it.

LadyLavina · February 2017

I wouldn't mind having this for it.

Olern · February 2017

I loved the Skyrim mechanic. I wish they would have used that here.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · February 2017

This one enjoys the challenge of picking that master lockbox just behind it's owner. Where one wrong move could result in capture, or even death from that bank guard stationed a mere 6 feet away. Most PvE and many PvP battles can not be as intense as those 10 - 15 sec employing one's shadowy trade. This ESO is dumbed down enough, would you take away one of the few remaining tasks that actually involves some sort of skills. No, this one thinks not.

UrQuan · February 2017

dbgager wrote: »

Well its not fine for everybody . Not everybody who plays this game is young with perfect reflexes.

I'm not young with perfect reflexes. It's not the reflexes that matter as much as practice and knowing what spots it's possible for a tumbler to lock at, and knowing what to watch/listen for, and of course making sure you're not lagging or at low FPS.

Again, though, as I said earlier the skill that you're looking for already exists in the game. You already don't have to rely on your reflexes at all, just rank up your Legerdemain and put skill points in the Locksmith passive.

Castagere · February 2017

Olern wrote: »

I loved the Skyrim mechanic. I wish they would have used that here.

Agree with this. I hate the lock picking in this game and don't bother with it. The only time i had to use it was to get into someones house for a quest and it pissed me off that a quest had me breaking into someones house to complete it.

Sigtric · February 2017

@UrQuan has the right answer. Leave it like it is for people who enjoy it as it is and use the lock skills already available to buff your force lock, if you don't want to actually pick it.

Mojmir · February 2017

I like it

nimander99 · February 2017

I prefer the Skyrim/Fallout 4 style lockpick systems but the one in game isn't that bad. I barely use it anymore with my thieves guild skills, they just auto unlock 9/10 times instantly. Kind of redundant now.

BlackSparrow · February 2017

dbgager wrote: »

Well its not fine for everybody . Not everybody who plays this game is young with perfect reflexes.

That's my problem, too. It's not even an age thing for me... I've just always had slow reflexes. This means I always have to tap a pin twice (first to figure out where the lock point is, the second to lock it), which is fine for most locks, but Advanced and Master locks are pretty much luck-based.... if the RNG sets most of the pins in the upper two spots, I can get it, otherwise, I have to wait for the chest to reset and try again. Usually this isn't a huge problem, but it gets dicey if I'm trying to break into a lockbox where I have a limited time outside the merchant's line of sight.

So yeah... I like the system in general, but I'd like a passive that gives you a bit more time on each attempt, or something.

Remag_Div · February 2017

Wait, people have trouble with lockpicking? lol

I think it's fine as is. It's a simple mini-game that's quick and easy. Making it more "skill based" or having to put points into a skill to make it easier would just *** people off.

ZiRM · February 2017

It's easy and I don't mind it in ESO.

JasonSilverSpring · February 2017

If you are on PC you can try this addon: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info909-FCOLockpicker.html

You can have it flash a check mark or change the tumbler color to green at the right spot. It still requires some reflexes but does make it a bit more obvious when at the right spot.

dbgager · February 2017

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

If you are on PC you can try this addon: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info909-FCOLockpicker.html

You can have it flash a check mark or change the tumbler color to green at the right spot. It still requires some reflexes but does make it a bit more obvious when at the right spot.

Yes ..thank you. I do have that already. It still is just a more obvious visible clue than the vibration of the pick. The check mark does not give you he exact moment to release the pick. It pretty much appears when it starts vibrating until the pick breaks.