Crafting tier writ rewards problem with Alchemy and Provisioning?

BmcD73

I've never really paid much attention to this but I have noticed recently that I am receiving:
Clothier's Satchel X
Blacksmith's Crate X
Woodworker's Case X
Alchemist's Vessel VII
Provisioner's Pack VII

All are maxed out. Should I be getting Alchemy and Provisioner packs higher than VII? I pickup and turn in all writs in Belkarth.

Uriel_Nocturne

I used to do the Crafting Writs every day.

Blacksmithing
Clothing
Woodworking
Provisioning
and
Alchemy

They made a change to the reward system a short while ago, and since then the rewards have been poop-tier, so I fully quit doing them. they just aren't worth the time or the expenditure of materials anymore IMO...

It's a shame too. They used to be so fun.

Nestor

The writ rewards are tied to the Material Levels for the Craft as that is what determines the level of the Writ.

The only real odd duck is Provisioning, as that has 6 Recipe Levels. But, they probably used Tier 7 for the top to make sure those are dropped off in the same place as the top end Alchemy writs are. It's already a bit of Fizzbin when you get above Material L4 for all writs and where you drop them off, so I can see why they did that.

BmcD73

Nestor wrote: »

The writ rewards are tied to the Material Levels for the Craft as that is what determines the level of the Writ.

The only real odd duck is Provisioning, as that has 6 Recipe Levels. But, they probably used Tier 7 for the top to make sure those are dropped off in the same place as the top end Alchemy writs are. It's already a bit of Fizzbin when you get above Material L4 for all writs and where you drop them off, so I can see why they did that.

I can't tell if you are saying these reward packs are max level or not. Alchemy goes to 8 (which I have) and I am getting VII rewards. Provisioning has 4 recipe quality and 6 improvement (which I have) and I am getting VII rewards. Is this normal or highest tier?

jedtb16_ESO

BmcD73 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

The writ rewards are tied to the Material Levels for the Craft as that is what determines the level of the Writ.

The only real odd duck is Provisioning, as that has 6 Recipe Levels. But, they probably used Tier 7 for the top to make sure those are dropped off in the same place as the top end Alchemy writs are. It's already a bit of Fizzbin when you get above Material L4 for all writs and where you drop them off, so I can see why they did that.

I can't tell if you are saying these reward packs are max level or not. Alchemy goes to 8 (which I have) and I am getting VII rewards. Provisioning has 4 recipe quality and 6 improvement (which I have) and I am getting VII rewards. Is this normal or highest tier?

if you turn them in in belkarth it's highest tier...... if not, then not.

Amadis001

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if you turn them in in belkarth it's highest tier...... if not, then not.[/quote]

I don't think this is correct. I remember turning in level IX woodworking writs in Belkarth, as well as level X.

Taleof2Cities

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

if you turn them in in belkarth it's highest tier...... if not, then not.

^This.^

Make sure your passives have been unlocked to obtain max writs.

wayfarerx

Amadis001 wrote: »

if you turn them in in belkarth it's highest tier...... if not, then not.

I don't think this is correct. I remember turning in level IX woodworking writs in Belkarth, as well as level X.

This is accurate, a couple weeks ago I had two enchanters still at enchanting rank 9 and I was turning in their writs in Belkarth.

Nestor

BmcD73 wrote: »

Provisioning has 4 recipe quality and 6 improvement (which I have) and I am getting VII rewards. Is this normal or highest tier?

As for Provisioning, If your getting Tier 6 Recipes in the reward container, then your doing and getting max level Writs. Even though you may not be making all top end recipes. The Writ Reward Container Level is not something you need to pay attention to.

As far as Alchemy goes, it's weird. As even the top end writs still ask for Cloud Mist*, which is not a top end solvent. And, that is the only differential for Alchemy, is the Solvent you get in the Writ Reward or asked to provide or make a potion with. The rewards are the same other than the water given.

In other words, it's all messed up for Alchemy. The only reason to do them is you get some mats, and the chance for a Survey. Don't worry about the level of the writ or the reward you get. Your chance for a Survey, which is the real reason for doing these, is the same no matter what level the writ is.

Yes, Crafting needs an overhaul. All of it.





* (or used to, it may have changed with Homestead, but it has not changed yet with the several patches we have had)

UrQuan

You just need to check to make sure you have you skill points maxed out in the appropriate passives.

Alchemy: Solvent Proficiency VIII
Blacksmithing: Metalworking X
Clothing: Tailoring X
Enchanting: Potency Improvement X
Provisioning: Recipe Improvement VI
Woodworking: Woodworking X

If you do your writs should always call for items using the highest tier mats available (except for provisioning, which is weird), and you'll be getting max-level writ containers from them. Note that Alchemy and Provisioning are the only ones whose relevant passive maxes out earlier than rank X.

reiverx

For blacksmithing you're usually trading 40 rubedite ingots for a shipment of 25 iron ingots.

Bargain.

jedtb16_ESO

Amadis001 wrote: »

if you turn them in in belkarth it's highest tier...... if not, then not.[/quote]

I don't think this is correct. I remember turning in level IX woodworking writs in Belkarth, as well as level X.

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there was a period when max lvl writ turn in was orsinium....... max-1 was belkarth.

now max turn in is belkarth. the number on the reward is irrelevant.

Darth_Apache

From this I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask should be doing these Writs if I want to level blacksmithing and provisioner?

UrQuan

Darth_Apache wrote: »

From this I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask should be doing these Writs if I want to level blacksmithing and provisioner?

If you've got the mats to burn, you might as well do writs as part of leveling your crafting skills. If you'd have to farm the mats or buy them, it's probably not worth it for any of the equipment writs (unless you can get the mats cheap), although it probably is for the consumables writs.

Darth_Apache

UrQuan wrote: »

Darth_Apache wrote: »

From this I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask should be doing these Writs if I want to level blacksmithing and provisioner?

If you've got the mats to burn, you might as well do writs as part of leveling your crafting skills. If you'd have to farm the mats or buy them, it's probably not worth it for any of the equipment writs (unless you can get the mats cheap), although it probably is for the consumables writs.

I can only craft up to Orc ore. so level 14? 15? Not sure but I made the mistake of not doing any blacksmith leveling.

Do you think its worth creating a new character for and going through the grind to just blacksmith and provision?
Guildmates are generous enough to craft for me for minimal gold or providing the mats. So I haven't seen the reason to do so at this point.

UrQuan

Darth_Apache wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Darth_Apache wrote: »

From this I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask should be doing these Writs if I want to level blacksmithing and provisioner?

If you've got the mats to burn, you might as well do writs as part of leveling your crafting skills. If you'd have to farm the mats or buy them, it's probably not worth it for any of the equipment writs (unless you can get the mats cheap), although it probably is for the consumables writs.

I can only craft up to Orc ore. so level 14? 15? Not sure but I made the mistake of not doing any blacksmith leveling.

Do you think its worth creating a new character for and going through the grind to just blacksmith and provision?
Guildmates are generous enough to craft for me for minimal gold or providing the mats. So I haven't seen the reason to do so at this point.

I'm probably the wrong person to answer this question. I've got 8 characters on my main account who are level 50 in all crafting skills, 4 more who are level 50 in all crafting skills except for provisioning & alchemy, and I'm currently leveling crafting skills on the characters on my other accounts.

Maybe someone sane can give you an answer.

Darth_Apache

UrQuan wrote: »

Darth_Apache wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Darth_Apache wrote: »

From this I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask should be doing these Writs if I want to level blacksmithing and provisioner?

If you've got the mats to burn, you might as well do writs as part of leveling your crafting skills. If you'd have to farm the mats or buy them, it's probably not worth it for any of the equipment writs (unless you can get the mats cheap), although it probably is for the consumables writs.

I can only craft up to Orc ore. so level 14? 15? Not sure but I made the mistake of not doing any blacksmith leveling.

Do you think its worth creating a new character for and going through the grind to just blacksmith and provision?
Guildmates are generous enough to craft for me for minimal gold or providing the mats. So I haven't seen the reason to do so at this point.

I'm probably the wrong person to answer this question. I've got 8 characters on my main account who are level 50 in all crafting skills, 4 more who are level 50 in all crafting skills except for provisioning & alchemy, and I'm currently leveling crafting skills on the characters on my other accounts.

Maybe someone sane can give you an answer.

I think I'll just go fishing....

BmcD73

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Make sure your passives have been unlocked to obtain max writs.

I don't have things like keen eye on anything.

I don't have snake blood or medicine for alchemy as I don't really use potions much.

Do these matter as far as max writs go or as far as master writs go?

idk

BmcD73 wrote: »

I've never really paid much attention to this but I have noticed recently that I am receiving:
Clothier's Satchel X
Blacksmith's Crate X
Woodworker's Case X
Alchemist's Vessel VII
Provisioner's Pack VII

All are maxed out. Should I be getting Alchemy and Provisioner packs higher than VII? I pickup and turn in all writs in Belkarth.

Alchemy and provisionaling reauire fewer points for max level. Hence lower level satchels.

BmcD73

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Alchemy and provisionaling reauire fewer points for max level. Hence lower level satchels.

But what I am gathering is that VII is the highest tier for provisioning and alchemy. Has anyone gotten anything above that?

SydneyGrey

reiverx wrote: »

For blacksmithing you're usually trading 40 rubedite ingots for a shipment of 25 iron ingots.

Bargain.

I'm making 664 gold per crafting writ right now. It makes me wonder if I'm better off just selling the materials I farm directly rather than doing the crafting writs, once I reach level 50 in each craft. Right now it's worth it for me to do the writs for the inspiration it gives as well as the money, but I just leveled my 3rd craft up to 50 today.

BmcD73

[quote="SydneyGrey;3804981"
I'm making 664 gold per crafting writ right now. It makes me wonder if I'm better off just selling the materials I farm directly rather than doing the crafting writs, once I reach level 50 in each craft. Right now it's worth it for me to do the writs for the inspiration it gives as well as the money, but I just leveled my 3rd craft up to 50 today.

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You will never make the money from the writs themselves. But possibly the recipes, or the gold raw mats, or the maps. That is where you will make money. Also if you pick up nay master writs. those can make some money too. I just wanted to make sure I was turning in the max writs.

sumisu1

There needs to be a change to shipments of raw material rather than refined. It sucks that we mostly get lower tier refined materials.

Nestor

Darth_Apache wrote: »

From this I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask should be doing these Writs if I want to level blacksmithing and provisioner?

@Darth_Apache

You get more inspiration from making a recipe or two than you do from the Writ. But, you have a good chance to get rare recipes from the writs, so it's worth doing for that. Plus, you get lots of mats to keep you cooking.

As far as leveling BS, decon Mob Loot, its how I got 9 of my Alts to 50 in BS.

Darth_Apache wrote: »

I can only craft up to Orc ore. so level 14? 15? Not sure but I made the mistake of not doing any blacksmith leveling.

Do you think its worth creating a new character for and going through the grind to just blacksmith and provision?
Guildmates are generous enough to craft for me for minimal gold or providing the mats. So I haven't seen the reason to do so at this point.

Ideally, you will have one character that does all your crafting. You would also want to have all your characters skilled at Alchemy and Provisioning for the passives at least, but also as it's convenient to make your own potions and foods. Nothing else, get your alts to L12 in the crafts so they can run L2 Hirelings.

See this thread for some thoughts on crafting and leveling and such, good stuff in here

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3780185

idk

BmcD73 wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Alchemy and provisionaling reauire fewer points for max level. Hence lower level satchels.

But what I am gathering is that VII is the highest tier for provisioning and alchemy. Has anyone gotten anything above that?

@BmcD73

Look at the rewards. They are appropriate. The recipes are the best indicator and They are all in the range of CP 100 to CP 160 which indicates without question we are receiving the correct coffers.

Darth_Apache

Nestor wrote: »

Darth_Apache wrote: »

From this I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask should be doing these Writs if I want to level blacksmithing and provisioner?

@Darth_Apache

You get more inspiration from making a recipe or two than you do from the Writ. But, you have a good chance to get rare recipes from the writs, so it's worth doing for that. Plus, you get lots of mats to keep you cooking.

As far as leveling BS, decon Mob Loot, its how I got 9 of my Alts to 50 in BS.

Darth_Apache wrote: »

I can only craft up to Orc ore. so level 14? 15? Not sure but I made the mistake of not doing any blacksmith leveling.

Do you think its worth creating a new character for and going through the grind to just blacksmith and provision?
Guildmates are generous enough to craft for me for minimal gold or providing the mats. So I haven't seen the reason to do so at this point.

Ideally, you will have one character that does all your crafting. You would also want to have all your characters skilled at Alchemy and Provisioning for the passives at least, but also as it's convenient to make your own potions and foods. Nothing else, get your alts to L12 in the crafts so they can run L2 Hirelings.

See this thread for some thoughts on crafting and leveling and such, good stuff in here

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3780185

Understood.
I just started with all three writs; BS, Prov, and Wood.
I've been deconstructing all the armor I get my hands on. Especially those pieces with the increased inspiration.
As far as prov; I have been cooking as much as I can haha.
Since I wear nothing but Medium Armor I am trying to focus more on the Clothier line.
I do want to get into the habit of selling all of my Heavy Armor upgrading items like the Temp Alloy and what not. Just stuff that I am not using to craft my armor sets and or weaponry.

Is there more of a market for straight out crafters out and about charging for crafting or utilizing the guild trader to market mats?

As far as creating another character I believe I will create a healer class character. Just so I can stay alive while out in the world farming mats.

Thank you for your input man. Very helpful!

Nestor

Darth_Apache wrote: »

Is there more of a market for straight out crafters out and about charging for crafting or utilizing the guild trader to market mats?

@Darth_Apache

People request crafting services all the time, so money can be made. But it's hit or miss in the first place, and a pain in the butt sometimes. But, you can make money.

If you want steady income, sell Mats in the Guild Kiosks. Especially if you can farm intermediate mats. All Crafting Mats other than maybe Runes sell well. With Homestead, certain Runes sell well. Oh, Style Mats for the base styles sell from Vendors for 15 Gold, so keep that in mind when listing those.

And, the new mats for furniture, you can almost name your price for them right now.

Darth_Apache

Nestor wrote: »

Darth_Apache wrote: »

Is there more of a market for straight out crafters out and about charging for crafting or utilizing the guild trader to market mats?

@Darth_Apache

People request crafting services all the time, so money can be made. But it's hit or miss in the first place, and a pain in the butt sometimes. But, you can make money.

If you want steady income, sell Mats in the Guild Kiosks. Especially if you can farm intermediate mats. All Crafting Mats other than maybe Runes sell well. With Homestead, certain Runes sell well. Oh, Style Mats for the base styles sell from Vendors for 15 Gold, so keep that in mind when listing those.

And, the new mats for furniture, you can almost name your price for them right now.

Yeah, I figure its going to take some time before I have all traits and styles. I will probably start off just selling mats on the guild kiosks. I give myself until the release of Morrowind and then grind to get the new mats for the new gear plus those styles if any. I have a long road ahead of me haha.

15 gold each individual style mat or per stack?