Class change----just give us already!

Lyserus

So let's think logically here:
Are there people who want it? Yes there are many.
Those who don't want it, will they become hateful to this game, let the darkness consume them and delete the game? I doubt it.
What is the only thing that prevent people change a character to a completely new one (though still with all the progress)? Class change
Those who play with only one toon, will they create new toons just to experience some new skill line, doing all those quests,skyshards,mount training,trait research all over again? Doubt it.
Those who play with several toons, will they stop creating new toons if the class change come out? No, they want to experience several builds at the same time, also get more master writ.
(Also, of course ZOS will make class change cost a fortune. Those who don't want it, just ignore it)

^So, I don't see the problem of not having them, especially since a new choice (warden) has came out and we should be able to change it because we didn't have the chance to be warden when we first play. At the very very least a one time class change offer should be viable

MythicEmperor

Only if/when a Necromancer class comes out, then it will personally affect me

Voxicity

Speak for yourself. I love playing all classes and specifications. I haven't made an alt in a while but when I did, I found the leveling process useful in order to learn the class more before reaching end game.

Rohaus

I don't agree with an option to class change but I do feel that certain achievements, skill points, and sky shards should carry over. Undaunted rank as well as fighters guild and mages guild rank should carry over to a new toon as well.... there could be a level 50 requirement put in place in order for above stated items could transfer.

Uriel_Nocturne

Speak for yourself, OP.

I have an almost full stable of 7 characters, spanning all four current classes. I find the leveling very useful in learning the in's and out's of each class, and skipping that leveling due to an uncontrollable lack of patience *coughyoucough*, would only leave a person with a maxed out character, but no idea of how to utilize the abilities properly.

A class change token (or whatever) is in no way necessary to this game, and has a high probability to make things much more difficult to the player who uses it.

Just create a new character, level it out, and learn along the way.

In this regard (as in so many other examples) patience is indeed a virtue.

Voxicity

Rohaus wrote: »

I don't agree with an option to class change but I do feel that certain achievements, skill points, and sky shards should carry over. Undaunted rank as well as fighters guild and mages guild rank should carry over to a new toon as well

This would pretty much be perfect in my opinion. Removes the hassle and grind, but won't flood the game with even more max level characters who have no idea how to play their class

XoxHANNIBALxoX

I've just started my fourth toon which will only be used for PvP and currently hard grinding it to 50 doing Dolmens and dungeons etc. Not doing any of the quests what so ever so it's really tedious. It would be nice to buy a class change but to be honest I like my other toons and still play them so personally probably would not pay to change them anyway.

Lord_Wrath

Lyserus wrote: »

Those who play with only one toon, will they create new toons just to experience some new skill line, doing all those quests,skyshards,mount training,trait research all over again? Doubt it.
Those who play with several toons, will they stop creating new toons if the class change come out? No, they want to experience several builds at the same time, also get more master writ.

I wouldn't ever want to restart all my progress. Ive been my main since launch due to my limited playtime. I still love the game among its issues, and im mighty proud of my sorc. Theres always something to achieve and grow.

However as much as id like to try out another class and not redo all that content, people would abuse it and then youll be seeing a bunch of the same builds, classes and races for meta.

Lyserus

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Speak for yourself. I love playing all classes and specifications. I haven't made an alt in a while but when I did, I found the leveling process useful in order to learn the class more before reaching end game.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Speak for yourself, OP.

I have an almost full stable of 7 characters, spanning all four current classes. I find the leveling very useful in learning the in's and out's of each class, and skipping that leveling due to an uncontrollable lack of patience *coughyoucough*, would only leave a person with a maxed out character, but no idea of how to utilize the abilities properly.

A class change token (or whatever) is in no way necessary to this game, and has a high probability to make things much more difficult to the player who uses it.

Just create a new character, level it out, and learn along the way.

In this regard (as in so many other examples) patience is indeed a virtue.

I mean, read, guys, read

Lyserus wrote: »

Those who play with several toons, will they stop creating new toons if the class change come out? No, they want to experience several builds at the same time, also get more master writ.
(Also, of course ZOS will make class change cost a fortune. Those who don't want it, just ignore it)

It doesn't concern you so let us have more options

Lyserus

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

Those who play with only one toon, will they create new toons just to experience some new skill line, doing all those quests,skyshards,mount training,trait research all over again? Doubt it.
Those who play with several toons, will they stop creating new toons if the class change come out? No, they want to experience several builds at the same time, also get more master writ.

I wouldn't ever want to restart all my progress. Ive been my main since launch due to my limited playtime. I still love the game among its issues, and im mighty proud of my sorc. Theres always something to achieve and grow.

However as much as id like to try out another class and not redo all that content, people would abuse it and then youll be seeing a bunch of the same builds, classes and races for meta.

well if they decide to put money in every patch just for meta (because it most likely get nerfed)
I say they deserve it.

Think about it this way ZOS will keep nerfing the metas so they can harvest from those gold whales over and over again, also gets the game more balance, because now they have the motivation to do so XD

Voxicity

Lyserus wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Speak for yourself. I love playing all classes and specifications. I haven't made an alt in a while but when I did, I found the leveling process useful in order to learn the class more before reaching end game.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Speak for yourself, OP.

I have an almost full stable of 7 characters, spanning all four current classes. I find the leveling very useful in learning the in's and out's of each class, and skipping that leveling due to an uncontrollable lack of patience *coughyoucough*, would only leave a person with a maxed out character, but no idea of how to utilize the abilities properly.

A class change token (or whatever) is in no way necessary to this game, and has a high probability to make things much more difficult to the player who uses it.

Just create a new character, level it out, and learn along the way.

In this regard (as in so many other examples) patience is indeed a virtue.

I mean, read, guys, read

I read it and gave my feedback and opinion on your proposal. That's what forums are for.

Llaren_Uvayn

It's ridiculous to expect to be able to just class change a 600 Champion Point character into a 600 Champion Point character of the new class that they just introduced to the game. Why in Oblivion would you not want to experience playing the new class as, well, a new class in the first place?

Paulington

Saying you should get a class change because Warden didn't exist when you started playing is akin to walking into an Apple store with your two year old MacBook and asking for a free change to the newer one because the new one wasn't around when you purchased your current one. See how silly that sounds?

Class change just won't happen. Level a new one. .

Lyserus

Llaren_Uvayn wrote: »

It's ridiculous to expect to be able to just class change a 600 Champion Point character into a 600 Champion Point character of the new class that they just introduced to the game. Why in Oblivion would you not want to experience playing the new class as, well, a new class in the first place?

first it's not the cp system get affected. cp will remain the same as long as your toon reach lv50.

So no, there are many people don't want to create new toons just to experience new class, because that means, grinding through lv1 to lv50, collect all the lorebook, kill all those daedra, collect all those skyshards, research all that traits and feed horse all over again.

I get why some people want to create new toons, but these people seems to have hard time understanding why we don't.

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Uriel_Nocturne

Lyserus wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Speak for yourself. I love playing all classes and specifications. I haven't made an alt in a while but when I did, I found the leveling process useful in order to learn the class more before reaching end game.

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Speak for yourself, OP.

I have an almost full stable of 7 characters, spanning all four current classes. I find the leveling very useful in learning the in's and out's of each class, and skipping that leveling due to an uncontrollable lack of patience *coughyoucough*, would only leave a person with a maxed out character, but no idea of how to utilize the abilities properly.

A class change token (or whatever) is in no way necessary to this game, and has a high probability to make things much more difficult to the player who uses it.

Just create a new character, level it out, and learn along the way.

In this regard (as in so many other examples) patience is indeed a virtue.

I mean, read, guys, read

Lyserus wrote: »

Those who play with several toons, will they stop creating new toons if the class change come out? No, they want to experience several builds at the same time, also get more master writ.
(Also, of course ZOS will make class change cost a fortune. Those who don't want it, just ignore it)

It doesn't concern you so let us have more options

I did read it, and formulated my reply accordingly while wording my disagreement.

My reply was in proper proportion to your OP. I stand by what I said.

Lyserus

Paulington wrote: »

Saying you should get a class change because Warden didn't exist when you started playing is akin to walking into an Apple store with your two year old MacBook and asking for a free change to the newer one because the new one wasn't around when you purchased your current one. See how silly that sounds?

Class change just won't happen. Level a new one. .

they do have old for new exchange you know..

Rohaus

Leveling a new character is indeed EASY!!! However, the real grind begins when you need skill points and subsequently skyshards. To be honest, if you grind the right mobs, you can actually level Fighters guild quite easily.

Sometimes, one just wants to play a different class to freshen the game up for them. However, when you start realizing the chore involved with leveling skills all over again as well as collecting skyshards and skilpoints... bleh...

Still, with FOTM classes in mind... I certainly don't enjoy seeing limited amounts of classes on the battlefield.

Katahdin

They have already said this won't be a thing.

People complain they have nothing to do. Starting a new character gives you something to do.

Leveling to 50 is easy.

Before you respond "don't have time, have a life, work, blah, blah, blah....

I work full time, have a family and do things outside the game. I have 12 max level characters (3 of each class). It's not that hard to do.

Turelus

This is a new and refreshing subject, sure glad we have a whole new thread for it...