polearms - as a hybrid weapon

Lynx7386

So I think everyone can agree that magicka weapon choices are limited at the moment, especially with the changes to dual wield spellpower. Polearms are also one of the most requested weapons for the game since launch (up there with spears). Magicka melee weapons are also practically non existent now.

Going off of the idea that a polearm is essentially a staff affixed with a blade, what does everyone think about implementing them as a new hybrid weapon type?

The polearm would have basic melee attacks just like 1h, 2h,and dw, but would restore both stamina and magicka on heavy attacks (half each what the other weapon lines restore). Attacks would also each consist of two hits on the target - one dealing physical damage and the second dealing magic damage, with each based on your weapon power/crit and spell power/crit respectively.
Such a weapon would be a little less effective for pure magicka or stamina builds, but would work brilliantly for hybrids who focus on both sets of stats.

Abilities in the polearm skill tree would each have a magicka morph and a stamina morph with different effects, allowing you to mix and match resource usage. Some attacks, particularly those based on magicka morphs, might have more range to them akin to launching Magic from the staff end of the weapon, while the stamina morphs would knockdown or daze enemies with sweeping attacks using the bladed end of the polearm.

Thoughts?

Lynx7386

Going to reserve a spot for more suggestions later

Mashille

I mean, new weapons are always cool, and adding them to the game would be pretty awesome. However ZOS just doesn't listen to this kinda stuff on the forums. They'll work on new weapons internally and it doesn't really matter what suggestions are made, even if they are good ones.

idk

Seems to complicated. Besides, as long as the game is designed for pure builds it does not matter, the hybrid build will always under perform. Why builds a weapon line for an under performing build?

There are only two ways to make hybrids decent. One is to make pure builds trash which is a bad idea trading one idea for another. The other is to homogenize everything and essential make everything the same which is to remove choices and make one aspect of the game vanilla boring.

Dr_Rektar

Hmm polearms like a thing for stam aoe.

dday3six

Magicka has more class skills than Stamina, and it's made up for with more Stamina weapon lines.

Unless th game's stat system is redone hybridization will be confined to unoptimized build.

TheShadowScout

My thoughts on Polearms are there: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259011/additional-weapon-skill-ideas/p1
And I see them as pure stamina weapons, as they should be.

dday3six wrote: »

Magicka has more class skills than Stamina, and it's made up for with more Stamina weapon lines.

Yup, exactly!

LadyLavina

Sure, as long as they don't manifest as some huge cartoony unwieldable thing.

Domander

Is the dual wield spellpower change you're talking about the 3% offhand to make it the same as 2h? or is there something else that I missed?

Good thought though I would say if you want to make a true hybrid weapon have the damage scale with the average of the 2 resources/damage. Give it a bonus to make up for the loss of max.