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Does warp of the west affected the past?

aslan06
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This is a lore question,and really dumb one)in daggerfall after the dragon break High-Rock went from 44 kingdoms to 5,in ESO we also have 5 kingdoms and not 44, so does warp of the west affected the past or High-Rock just hed less kingdoms in the past.
  • Enodoc
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    No, it doesn't affect the past. In ESO's time, the existing Kingdoms of High Rock (Camlorn, Daggerfall, Evermore, Shornhelm, and Wayrest) are all united under the banner of the Daggerfall Covenant, and many of the settlements that the future Daggerfall city-states are built around (such as Anticlere, Dwynnen, Kambria, and Ykalon) don't even exist yet. Beyond that, most of them are counties, baronies, duchies, marches and fiefdoms, and not actually kingdoms anyway; only Northpoint, Daggerfall, Shornhelm, Camlorn, Farrun, Evermore, Wayrest, and Jehanna count as Kingdoms in the Daggerfall time period.
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  • Metafae
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    Interestingly though dragonbreaks have been known to affect the past before. The change to cyrodiil no longer being a jungle even in ESO seems to be one example of this.
  • Fly666monkey
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    Metafae wrote: »
    Interestingly though dragonbreaks have been known to affect the past before. The change to cyrodiil no longer being a jungle even in ESO seems to be one example of this.

    That was Talos using CHIM, not a dragon break.
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    Metafae wrote: »
    Interestingly though dragonbreaks have been known to affect the past before. The change to cyrodiil no longer being a jungle even in ESO seems to be one example of this.

    That was Talos using CHIM, not a dragon break.

    uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Subtropical_Cyrodiil:_A_Speculation

    Personally, I think that theory makes more sense than both of those
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    Metafae wrote: »
    Interestingly though dragonbreaks have been known to affect the past before. The change to cyrodiil no longer being a jungle even in ESO seems to be one example of this.
    That was Talos using CHIM, not a dragon break.
    uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Subtropical_Cyrodiil:_A_Speculation

    Personally, I think that theory makes more sense than both of those
    For me, the theory in the book is an attempt to make sense of the effect of CHIM.
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  • Narvuntien
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    I think the Daggerfall collapses into infighting as it becomes clear they are losing this war...... a war that goes 300 odd years..
    A war that long would just exhaust the resources of daggerfall lands which are much smaller than the rest.

    You have a a leader less effective than Emeric, they are mostly human lands, I am not sure what the lifespans of Orcs are, but the human rulers even the longer lived Bretons have much higher turn over than the other alliances. One poor king could easily lead to internal strife, leading to irreversable break up... devolve into everyone for themselves.

    Once the war become 1v1 The tribunal allowed the use of the Numindium to the Nords leading to Tiber septum (talos) victory.
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