Templar Ultimates Limited, could they use some imrpovements?

technohic

I don't know that Templar ultimates are awful, but I tend to favor other things. Empowering Sweeps provides damage reduction for example, but if I run barrier, it works for more than just me and prevents all damage pretty much for just more ultimate and missing damage which isn't great to begin with. Nova seems like over the years, I have favored meteor or now; the destro ultimates. The healing one? Not being able to move is a detriment in PvP. I suppose maybe PvE this is used?

Anyone have any opinions on these on their state or what could improve them?

I was thinking maybe make Solar Disturbance stick with the caster like Eye of the storm does. Remove the synergy from it leaving the other morph the synergy version.

For empowering Sweeps; I'd rather it go more defensive and rather than pulse damage, maybe pulses refresh the damage reduction time every time it hits and enemy, or dream scenario; acts like blinding flashes used to.

AcadianPaladin

As much as I love my magplar, I would trade her Templar ultimates in a heartbeat for the Negation and Atronach ulitimates of a sorc. Nova is okay for AoE DoT but the sorc's negation does all that +stun.

Seraphayel

I mean the DK ultimates are as bad. I don't use them anymore because Meteor, Elemental Storm etc. are better. I think most classes have to deal with this issue. As long as there are absolutely overpowered ultimates like the two mentioned above there is no point in using class ultimates.

iseko

Healing ulti is used a lot in pvp. Very cheap and keeps people alive.

Sweeps (the one with increased dmg) is often used as well in pvp. Hits like a truck and does not cost much.

Nova is pretty ***

Gaggin

Nova's invaluable in trials.

Whats this about dk ults are useless? standard stil gives more damage than ele storm, and magma shell is 10 seconds of almost invulnerability.

Seraphayel

Gaggin wrote: »

Nova's invaluable in trials.

Whats this about dk ults are useless? standard stil gives more damage than ele storm, and magma shell is 10 seconds of almost invulnerability.

Standard was nerfed and I still see much more people using Meteor or Storm just because the overall damage is something like twice as high the damage from Standard. Not even talking about the +2% Magicka and ultimate gain through Meteor. I don't know how it's for Stamina though. Crescent Sweep (or what's the name of the ultimate) isn't that bad because it's super cheap.

technohic

Seraphayel wrote: »

I mean the DK ultimates are as bad. I don't use them anymore because Meteor, Elemental Storm etc. are better. I think most classes have to deal with this issue. As long as there are absolutely overpowered ultimates like the two mentioned above there is no point in using class ultimates.

That is true enough. That's where I am thinking making the classes more utility rather than compete with the over the top abilities like this.

iseko wrote: »

Healing ulti is used a lot in pvp. Very cheap and keeps people alive.

Sweeps (the one with increased dmg) is often used as well in pvp. Hits like a truck and does not cost much.

Nova is pretty ***

I've thought about using the healing utimate in heavy for that reason, and if you are running low on resources, it does give you some time where you are not taking much damage, healing up, and recoverying resources even more if someone is hitting you. I just wish you could move.

Since they changed sweeps to physical damage; I'm not so sure about it. If you are a stam user, not sure why you wouldn't use Dawnbreaker. For Magicka; I suppose it is still cheap and should hit somewhat hard but your scaling is going to be elsewhere.

Nova; I realize it is probably used in PvE where the mobs stand in it. Thats why I was thinking leave the stronger synergy version alone for that. Make the snare sort of like EOS but rather than do as much damage (it does less already and could do even a little less) make it be like an AOE snare and damage reduction that travels with the caster. More of a defensive/tankier utility. That kind of steps on the spear ultimate, but at that point, maybe make the spear ultimates both damage and make one magicka and the other stam?

Cinbri

We need at least one of Nova's morph to be offensive and reliable in pvp.
1. Either instead of reduce damage of all enemeis inside it grant caster major berserk for duration of ult.
2. Or make it as burst aoe damage, something like this:

Baconlad

I would be happy with an absolute overhaul to templar ults. They all....suck. for some STUPID reason the only ultimate that made sense for (non synergy) damage was crescent sweep. But the fkn nerfs that skill has gotten since day one...it always had a *** range, than they gave most of its damage to a DAMN DOT when it was supposed to be BURST...Instead of simply increasing the range...then when they did increase the range they didnt remove the dot, THEN THEY GAVE IT STAMINA TOONS...who just got a weapon ult with EVERY stamina weapon!! Who the *** is going to use crescent now? Atleast before (soulshine) magplars used it when if they didnt like meteors big a$$ "" LOOK AT THIS BLUE THING IT MEANS BLOCK""no one is going to use this, they have weapon ults, two dawnbreakers that cost a tad more and one STUNs...they took an amzing skill and *** it up. All it needed was a range increase...nothing else...i mean how much of an a$$ hat do you have to be?

Then lets talk about our second "option" to damage...nova *** sucks, the synergy is *** impossible to find and hit, the damage is *** for a stationary skill. As for the buffs to group? THATS WHAT REMEMBERANCE Is *** FOR! The dot needs to be ATLEAST as high as destro ult, since its damn stationary, and remove the defense buffs and stun and all the stupid *** for more damage. They could give it a channeled time for the durration and half speed so that the skill is movable and powerful.

Ok...now for rememberance/ practiced incantation, *** amazing sauce...or atleast it would be. Problem is is that its stationary AND cast time...no other ult ingame requires that. Personally i run this over warhorn in my group, but only if warhorn is already being used by a worthless NB healer or somthing. On my DPS toons i somtimes run it only because its awesome for a "breather" to regen resources and heal buddies for free.

Now the biggest problem i have with the templar ults accually doesnt have anything to do with the ults, its the *** armor that increased channeled/ cast time spell power. The rings come in healthy because GOD FORBID you dream of allowing templars wear LA and get arcane rings with a damage increase. In order to bypass that i have to wear heavy and lose 10% crit spell penatration. Do DKs have this issue with sun set? No...they dont...not only that but half of our options AND defense is gimped AF by running this set. Yet another reason why ultimate options for templar suck d!ck, only one that works is with soulshine is rememberance...

So sorry about the wall of frustration but...im frustrated with a lot in game right now...

WHY would anyone who needs health pick up soulshine? Just...unbelievable