Disappointed that mannimarco was such a pushover in the main quest line

ESOUser0x00

I thought he was supposed to be smart and powerful but instead he is just someone who boasts alot and gets defeated in the main quest after so short a time. I had expected the quest to be long and drawn out.

starkerealm

He used to be able to kick your teeth in. Honestly the entire main quest used to be a lot more difficult, to the point that some players had a pretty rough time advancing past certain points and hitting some quests overleveled was the recomended approach, if you were having difficulty.

Metafae

I think it's funny you're given a choice to release him or not. It doesn't matter, we all know he escapes anyway, why not be the one who did it.

ESOUser0x00

starkerealm wrote: »

He used to be able to kick your teeth in. Honestly the entire main quest used to be a lot more difficult, to the point that some players had a pretty rough time advancing past certain points and hitting some quests overleveled was the recomended approach, if you were having difficulty.

I was actually referring to the story aka lore but yea he is also easy to defeat in the game.

dbgager

I think its due to the 1 Tamriel System they patched into the game. Seems to me although I am new to the game that all it did was make every fight and every quest not that challenging. Everything in the game is your level.

austinwalter87ub17_ESO

The main story has always been a weak point in the game. There's certain zone based quests that i've found more interesting personally.

Korinth

I remember when the Dosha fight (the medusa like lady) for the fighters guild (early level) was a REAL pain in the butt if you didn't have any AoE spells.

Now she is a pushover. A lot of the storyline fights got nerfed due to people having a hard time not face-rolling them.

Stovahkiin

Personally, I found the main quest to be rather dry until I got to the coldharbour quests, it was great from then on imo.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

He was also a pushover in Oblivion, maybe that's the truth and he isn't actually powerful at all.

He even claims to be a lich but he doesn't look like one, Vastarie is an example of a fresh lich and even if they are fresh they will still have the eyes and lich aura like her, Mannimarco has neither.

Dexter411

Main quest line? You mean the quests with old dude and blond chick that gives a skillpoint everytime? Oh man, i love those. Mostly because of the skill point...

SanderBuraas

The main story is bad. I wish it was completely redone.

ESOUser0x00

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

He was also a pushover in Oblivion, maybe that's the truth and he isn't actually powerful at all.

He even claims to be a lich but he doesn't look like one, Vastarie is an example of a fresh lich and even if they are fresh they will still have the eyes and lich aura like her, Mannimarco has neither.

If that is true then vanus galerion was also a pushover.

ESOUser0x00

Smepic wrote: »

The main story is bad. I wish it was completely redone.

I'm ok with the most of my faction quests but not the main questline that involves the blind emperor which seems too short, rushed and not fleshed out enough.

SBC

ESOUser0x00 wrote: »

Smepic wrote: »

The main story is bad. I wish it was completely redone.

I'm ok with the most of my faction quests but not the main questline that involves the blind emperor which seems too short, rushed and not fleshed out enough.

When I first began the quest line, I had a feeling everything was going to be extremely drawn out and elaborative. Then the script flipped on me and everything else happened so fast. It's like they had someone writing the story at the beginning that ended up leaving, and another team just rushed a bunch of stuff together to make some sort of story.

Vipstaakki

The main questline used to be long and drawn out but now that one tamriel rolled in, it has completely wrecked whatever story there was to it.

I didn't release Mannimarco because he didn't ask me nicely.

Seraphayel

Smepic wrote: »

The main story is bad. I wish it was completely redone.

I wouldn't say the story is bad but pretty flawed. There are some really good aspects but many of the quests are just dull and the story isn't explained good enough. It feels rushed and some of the quests are a real pain because they take forever and are really annoying. I mean the Prophet can open up portals to Coldharbour to help us escape... yeah sure.

I really like Abnur Tharn despising Lyris and their funny conversations but Sai Sahan and the Prophet feel rather useless (I don't like the love story of Lyris and Sai). Cadwell is funny as well but they could have done much more. I mean Vanus Galerion, the most powerful sorcerer in ESO (?) is a dimwit...

hmsdragonfly

Vipstaakki wrote: »

I didn't release Mannimarco because he didn't ask me nicely.

Same.

The_Undefined

I disagree. Mannimarco has always been a bit of a putz with pouting in the shadow of Vanus Galerion (well... I guess he was the baddy in Daggerfall, but he was kind of crappy in Oblivion too). Manni was always a puppet with the true enemy being Molag Bal. I thought Manni served his purpose extremely well. I would've preferred some interaction with Vanus and Manni, but oh well.

Also, the main story line was amazing imo. I was pretty torn up choosing who I would sacrifice in the end. The characters of the main story are the most memorable characters of all the quest lines I've done, except for Captain Rana.. I dunno why, but I always remembered her. I loved the interactions between Lyris and Sai Sahan.

Anyways, TLDR: Mannimarco wasn't supposed to be the main baddy, that was always Molag Bal, and the story definitely delivered!

SaRuZ

All the quests and stories in this game are just awful imo.

Glenumbra, I was like ok, cool werewolves.
Stormhaven, dreamers, neato.
Rivenspire, vampires, dragged out, fatigue.
Alik'r, zombies again? Wtf when does this **** end!
Bangkorai, Now imperials and reachman??

So I rolled EP.
Stonefalls, Evil vampire werewolf necromancer daggerfall covenant forces

Then I deleted my EP character

90% of this games story content is weak. The amount of GHOSTS is unbelievable. There were never, ever this many ghosts in TES.

MLGProPlayer

dbgager wrote: »

I think its due to the 1 Tamriel System they patched into the game. Seems to me although I am new to the game that all it did was make every fight and every quest not that challenging. Everything in the game is your level.

Things actually got harder since your abilities cost more in 1T, making it difficult to sustain until you hit level 50 and max out your magicka/stamina.

MLGProPlayer

Smepic wrote: »

The main story is bad. I wish it was completely redone.

It was just a generic good vs. evil story. I really wish they took advantage of the complex TES lore they had at their disposal.

Shogunami

starkerealm wrote: »

He used to be able to kick your teeth in. Honestly the entire main quest used to be a lot more difficult, to the point that some players had a pretty rough time advancing past certain points and hitting some quests overleveled was the recomended approach, if you were having difficulty.

Man I miss those days..

I miss making 10 attempts before finally killing Doshia - back when the game was even challenging at all.

Then they slaughtered the main fun thing about the single player aspect of this game, the difficulty - getting to the first veteran zone fixed this for a few levels, and then it was all faceroll my way through the zones, all world bosses and dolmens again.

They 'sort of' mitigated this with the new overworld balancing, but I can still solo all Dolmens and many world bosses

I really hope ESO will survive long enough for ZOS to give ESO the "cataclysm treatment", when they realize all the cringy mistakes they made as a young studio and revamp a majority of the content. For example, being a vampire and interacting with vampires shouldn't result in them saying "A mortal such as yourself couldn't possibly fathom bla bla bla".

There's no feedback or report between the players and the world. At so many times it feels as if though they didn't even try.
And at some times it feels kind of spot on.

No reaction to sex or race or the gear you are wearing, no reaction to behaviour except stealing or murdering, no reaction to mounts jumping around in town, no reaction to people fighting in town. Towns and zones don't change at all after you finished all the quests, the whole world becomes stagnant.

I still love ESO, I just wish ZOS would treat it (the zones, the quests etc) the way it deserves - with RESPECT.

ADarklore

Korinth wrote: »

I remember when the Dosha fight (the medusa like lady) for the fighters guild (early level) was a REAL pain in the butt if you didn't have any AoE spells.

Now she is a pushover. A lot of the storyline fights got nerfed due to people having a hard time not face-rolling them.

You did read the patch notes for this last patch in which they buffed Dosha, right? Not sure how much they buffed her though.

ADarklore

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

I think its due to the 1 Tamriel System they patched into the game. Seems to me although I am new to the game that all it did was make every fight and every quest not that challenging. Everything in the game is your level.

Things actually got harder since your abilities cost more in 1T, making it difficult to sustain until you hit level 50 and max out your magicka/stamina.

Things NEVER got harder, everything scales, going through and playing a new character in 1T with high CP is like walking through easy-land... it then gets HARDER once you hit level 50 and they take away all those pre-50 buffs.

In the main quest, the only quest that always gave me problems was the 'Valley of Blades'... fighting against the ancient Redguards in the tomb was difficult since some would spawn at the same time leaving you to solo one while your party fought another. However, having replayed the main quest recently, they've really toned down Valley of Blades, now the Redguards don't spawn like that, they appear one group at a time making them much easier to deal with; I was shocked at how easy I finished that quest this time around, I think I was level 20ish when I finished it. At least it's nice now you don't have to wait for the main quests to generate every five levels, you can do them one after the other after level 5.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

ESOUser0x00 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

He was also a pushover in Oblivion, maybe that's the truth and he isn't actually powerful at all.

He even claims to be a lich but he doesn't look like one, Vastarie is an example of a fresh lich and even if they are fresh they will still have the eyes and lich aura like her, Mannimarco has neither.

If that is true then vanus galerion was also a pushover.

That is kind of obvious that he is a pushover, he tried to be a hero and got captured.

TheShadowScout

starkerealm wrote: »

He used to be able to kick your teeth in. Honestly the entire main quest used to be a lot more difficult, to the point that some players had a pretty rough time advancing past certain points and hitting some quests overleveled was the recomended approach, if you were having difficulty.

Oh, yes. Yes, yes, and two dozend times yes. Which is about how often my main character bashed her head into Mannimarco at Sancre Tor at level 40 before giving up and coming back ten levels later to get past that stage.

And then they nerfed him. I mean, I can see why... I really was whining with vexation after my multiple futile runs at levels 40 and 45... and only managed to get past him at 50. Of course, these days I am a little better at knowing the game too, so that might have been an added handicap, but still... new players probably shouldn't have to face that kind of aggrivation. Though I still wish there was a bit more finesse to those fights... have them longer, more drawn out, add some nifty extra mechanics and whatnot...

Rhoric

I tried like 3 dozen times to beat this guy a couple years ago before I was finally able to beat him. Then getting to Molag bal and him beating me over 2 dozen times before I gave up and deleted the character.

Anastian

Guys if you compare the main quest ti skyrim's main quest, eso is much more solid. And the faction quests are great

starkerealm

Seraphayel wrote: »

I mean Vanus Galerion, the most powerful sorcerer in ESO (?) is a dimwit...

I always found Vanus being such a derp kinda amusing.

Seraphayel

starkerealm wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

I mean Vanus Galerion, the most powerful sorcerer in ESO (?) is a dimwit...

I always found Vanus being such a derp kinda amusing.

Sure it's amusing but Tamriel during ESO seems to be full of idiots. The leaders are idiots, their servants are idiots, the most powerful people are idiots... I mean come on, what's wrong with those people?

I haven't found any alliance leader that's at least some kind of smart. Emeric, Ayrenn and Jorunn are all pretty underwhelming. I like Ayrenn but she's so naive... Vanus Galerion, Shalidor, Merric... sometimes I really question all of them because they seem to be so incompetent. No wonder Tamriel is a mess with people like them.

AhPook_Is_Here

You have to understand that manom and molag are more like rap stars than super villains. They monologue you a lot and let you know how awesome they think they are, but when it comes to throwing down they are just that fat kid in the sand box who is all talk and won't reach for his spade when things get real.