Furnishing prices!?!

Tapio75

Went to fighters guild and noticed that there was a furnishment vendor upstair on Riften.

My house is about 60k gold worth, i think this is good price for the size and location.

The cheapest furnishment on the vendor was Fighters guild banner and Daedric crest, both 10k gold, the most expensive was anchor pinion 100k gold..

I think teh prices are absurd compared to house prices though for the people with bigger houses, they might seem to compare.

First of all, the Fighters guild banner. this is something that should come for free when you are fighters guikd member, no banner for non members. we have saved fighters fuild and we are charged for simple flag to hang on a wall?

Anchor pinion:

This should be something, you got from dolmens, each time you touch a pinion, there should be a chance to get it on inventory (BoP).

Daedric crest: maybe something you can find from daedric ruins or in Coldharbour, small chance, or buy from guild with small price.

Broken chain

These should also drop from anchors with a bigger chance than pinions.

Anyway, those prices are bit too much, not that people have gold, they do. But some dont and something that has purely meant for fun like housing is, the furnishing should not be that expensive, at least not those that have some connection to your deeds and factions/guilds you serve.

I dont know about other prices, but what i have heard about hardship of getting plans, materials and so forth, i suspect they are not very cheap either.

I know that some wiev housing as "Gold sink", but housing should not be a golds sink. Housing should be fun and relatively easily accessible, natural crown greed demands that prices are not for fun, but this should not be so. Gold sinks should be designed around stuff that people NEED, not to something that people dont need but some find fun to play with.

I think we need an IKEA >.<

Gedalya

Prices aside; I think the system is working fine as is. A lot of people are looking to get the biggest house and furnish it with the best items for little to no investment which is absurd to me; you need to have a goal, something you can work towards, and having achievement based items, and a crafting system for furniture is great. Finding items in the world like you can is great. It's not going to be a quick and easy process. And to be clear, housing is rather easily accessible if you have a modest goals; not everyone should have a castle in a game like this.

SodanTok

On the contrary. Gold sinks should be designed around things people dont need but may find nice to have. Having dolmen pinion is not really even on top100 furniture you house needs. Perfectly fine for it be expensive. Wouldnt care if it ALSO is some RNG drop, but the last thing I want after years in the game is to grind dolmens to get furniture while millions of gold sit in my bank.

iNSiPiD1

Gedalya wrote: »

Prices aside; I think the system is working fine as is. A lot of people are looking to get the biggest house and furnish it with the best items for little to no investment which is absurd to me; you need to have a goal, something you can work towards, and having achievement based items, and a crafting system for furniture is great. Finding items in the world like you can is great. It's not going to be a quick and easy process. And to be clear, housing is rather easily accessible if you have a modest goals; not everyone should have a castle in a game like this.

Let's say I wanted to get started on furnishing a single room, without using gold/crowns to purchase plans or the furniture outright. What should I do to achieve this goal?

hmsdragonfly

Tapio75 wrote: »

Went to fighters guild and noticed that there was a furnishment vendor upstair on Riften.

My house is about 60k gold worth, i think this is good price for the size and location.

The cheapest furnishment on the vendor was Fighters guild banner and Daedric crest, both 10k gold, the most expensive was anchor pinion 100k gold..

I think teh prices are absurd compared to house prices though for the people with bigger houses, they might seem to compare.

First of all, the Fighters guild banner. this is something that should come for free when you are fighters guikd member, no banner for non members. we have saved fighters fuild and we are charged for simple flag to hang on a wall?

Anchor pinion:

This should be something, you got from dolmens, each time you touch a pinion, there should be a chance to get it on inventory (BoP).

Daedric crest: maybe something you can find from daedric ruins or in Coldharbour, small chance, or buy from guild with small price.

Broken chain

These should also drop from anchors with a bigger chance than pinions.

Anyway, those prices are bit too much, not that people have gold, they do. But some dont and something that has purely meant for fun like housing is, the furnishing should not be that expensive, at least not those that have some connection to your deeds and factions/guilds you serve.

I dont know about other prices, but what i have heard about hardship of getting plans, materials and so forth, i suspect they are not very cheap either.

I know that some wiev housing as "Gold sink", but housing should not be a golds sink. Housing should be fun and relatively easily accessible, natural crown greed demands that prices are not for fun, but this should not be so. Gold sinks should be designed around stuff that people NEED, not to something that people dont need but some find fun to play with.

I think we need an IKEA >.<

Those are Achievement furniture, they are trophies, not the kind that you buy in bulk.

Think of it this way: If you want a regular football, alright, 10 bucks. But you want the actual football that was used by David Villa to score the definitive goal that helped Spain winning World Cup, fine, 500,000 bucks.

Yes, there is IKEA for you, it's called "Housing Vendor", there's one in every zone.

Price of crafted furniture is just hyped, they will go down in 2 months or so when furniture crafting becomes mainstream.

Tapio75

@sodantokb16_ESO

Gold sinks only work as gold sinks, if the gold goes to something everyone needs like respecs and such. Gold sinks made to something people donyt need means that those who got the gold what the gold sinks are for, still keeps getting more gold and economy keeps inflating exponentially.

@iNSiPiD1

Thats a good question. People all around seem to say that materials are everywhere. Still to this day. I have looted every container for plans and tried to get materials bt researching sources for them.

All i have is one blueprint, nothing else, no materials to craft the stuff in the blueprint.

ZOS's goal with this model, is to make people buy furnishing with crowns, sad how real life problrems are ported inside a gameworld like this.

For example. If i buy a house that costs 60k, the Crown price unfurnished is 3300, furnished 3800.

500 crowns out of furnishing.

If you count, that 3300 crowns equals 60k gold in game, the 500 crowns should be 27,5 gold.

Does that price equal how much you need to yse gold to really get your home furnished the same amount than with crowns?

Sigtric

Tapio75 wrote: »

Went to fighters guild and noticed that there was a furnishment vendor upstair on Riften.

My house is about 60k gold worth, i think this is good price for the size and location.

The cheapest furnishment on the vendor was Fighters guild banner and Daedric crest, both 10k gold, the most expensive was anchor pinion 100k gold..

I think teh prices are absurd compared to house prices though for the people with bigger houses, they might seem to compare.

First of all, the Fighters guild banner. this is something that should come for free when you are fighters guikd member, no banner for non members. we have saved fighters fuild and we are charged for simple flag to hang on a wall?

Anchor pinion:

This should be something, you got from dolmens, each time you touch a pinion, there should be a chance to get it on inventory (BoP).

Daedric crest: maybe something you can find from daedric ruins or in Coldharbour, small chance, or buy from guild with small price.

Broken chain

These should also drop from anchors with a bigger chance than pinions.

Anyway, those prices are bit too much, not that people have gold, they do. But some dont and something that has purely meant for fun like housing is, the furnishing should not be that expensive, at least not those that have some connection to your deeds and factions/guilds you serve.

I dont know about other prices, but what i have heard about hardship of getting plans, materials and so forth, i suspect they are not very cheap either.

I know that some wiev housing as "Gold sink", but housing should not be a golds sink. Housing should be fun and relatively easily accessible, natural crown greed demands that prices are not for fun, but this should not be so. Gold sinks should be designed around stuff that people NEED, not to something that people dont need but some find fun to play with.

I think we need an IKEA >.<

IKEA is here. Go to all the crafting NPCs that sell style stones and what not and buy the 90 gold recipes. You have to put IKEA junk together yourself, after all.

Tapio75

@hmsdragonfly

You think these things as a player behind a computer while i wiev this thing as character in Tamriel. I saved Fighters guild, in reality, the banner would be given me as a reward.

I touch the pinions, i close the dolmens with other people of Tamriel, i have a good chance of getting one or two pinions or chain fargments in the process. I see a Daedric crest on a daedra infested place, i take it as a trophy to remark my achievments in slaying Daedra.

Now if i wanted to get some extravagant furniture and tapestry to my home or mansion, thats something that should cost quite a bit of gold as thats not for common loww.

@Sigtric

Thas a good one


Sadly, something is missing from the package as usual, i got the plans but all the materials got lost in the delivery
AKA, i have not stumbled upon any materials at all. Maybe you can advice me on this problem?

jedtb16_ESO

Tapio75 wrote: »

Went to fighters guild and noticed that there was a furnishment vendor upstair on Riften.

My house is about 60k gold worth, i think this is good price for the size and location.

The cheapest furnishment on the vendor was Fighters guild banner and Daedric crest, both 10k gold, the most expensive was anchor pinion 100k gold..

I think teh prices are absurd compared to house prices though for the people with bigger houses, they might seem to compare.

First of all, the Fighters guild banner. this is something that should come for free when you are fighters guikd member, no banner for non members. we have saved fighters fuild and we are charged for simple flag to hang on a wall?

Anchor pinion:

This should be something, you got from dolmens, each time you touch a pinion, there should be a chance to get it on inventory (BoP).

Daedric crest: maybe something you can find from daedric ruins or in Coldharbour, small chance, or buy from guild with small price.

Broken chain

These should also drop from anchors with a bigger chance than pinions.

Anyway, those prices are bit too much, not that people have gold, they do. But some dont and something that has purely meant for fun like housing is, the furnishing should not be that expensive, at least not those that have some connection to your deeds and factions/guilds you serve.

I dont know about other prices, but what i have heard about hardship of getting plans, materials and so forth, i suspect they are not very cheap either.

I know that some wiev housing as "Gold sink", but housing should not be a golds sink. Housing should be fun and relatively easily accessible, natural crown greed demands that prices are not for fun, but this should not be so. Gold sinks should be designed around stuff that people NEED, not to something that people dont need but some find fun to play with.

I think we need an IKEA >.<

wow thanks for telling me about the vendor in the fighters guild.... i'll get those later. anyone know if there is the same facility in the mages guild?

Tapio75

@jedtb16_ESO

i assume there is. Could also assume that all sorts of otheer guilds and such have or will have their own.

hmsdragonfly

Tapio75 wrote: »

@hmsdragonfly

You think these things as a player behind a computer while i wiev this thing as character in Tamriel. I saved Fighters guild, in reality, the banner would be given me as a reward.

I touch the pinions, i close the dolmens with other people of Tamriel, i have a good chance of getting one or two pinions or chain fargments in the process. I see a Daedric crest on a daedra infested place, i take it as a trophy to remark my achievments in slaying Daedra.

Now if i wanted to get some extravagant furniture and tapestry to my home or mansion, thats something that should cost quite a bit of gold as thats not for common loww.

I defeated Molag Bal, I should have been crown Emperor, not the stupid Jorunn, coward Emeric or overprotective Aryenn, and especially not the *** Magplar called "xxProReapxx" who spams BoL all day without running out of magicka.

Tapio75

@hmsdragonfly

Maybe we should have but nobody else than five companions know about the deed,... And Cadwell knows too.

Lets not bring PVP to this, the emperor thing is bit silly idea to begin with, should have been something else like "Self appointed ruler".

hmsdragonfly

Tapio75 wrote: »

@hmsdragonfly

Maybe we should have but nobody else than five companions know about the deed,... And Cadwell knows too.

Lets not bring PVP to this, the emperor thing is bit silly idea to begin with, should have been something else like "Self appointed ruler".

So, one day you wake up and the threat of Molag Bal just somehow ends?

As a matter of fact Merida knows that.

Fighters Guild and Mages Guild also know that, after Cold Habour I told them I am gonna go beat the s*** out of Molag Bal.

Three faction leaders also know that. You even said farewell to your faction leader before going to Coldhabour.

Finally, everyone in Tamriel knows that the threat of Molag Bal was finally ended and Molag Bal was defeated by the Vestige.

So, the Ruby Throne belongs to me, not the stupid Jorunn, coward Emeric or overprotective Aryenn, and especially not the *** Magplar called "xxProReapxx" who spams BoL all day without running out of magicka.

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You are just greedy xD They have given you a pretty nice weapon and some nice rewards. Now you need to take away something that is very important and symbolic to the guild xD

Tapio75

@hmsdragonfly

Yes, Meridia knows, thats 6 that know of the deed. The initial Coldharbour assault is not the one where Molly is defeated, only planemeld. Five companions did the final deed. What they talked there, lets me assume that only those 6 knows of it. In that part of story some of the companions speak of nobody knowing, i think it was Tharn.

Afterwards yu are thrown to Cadwells silver and gold, when going to silver, you are a new face, nobody knows you.

But what ever it is. You are talking about ruling a country or a region, being hero that knows how to beat some monsters makes nobody automatically eligible for ruling anything.

As for these items, they are mere trinkets that one can acquire when destroying dolmen or raiding a daedra infested place, trinkets such as these, are worth nothing to anyone else than those that gather them as mementos from field of battle.

This matter is finished as far as i am concerned.

Shardaxx

I've already spotted some achievement stuff I want to buy on day 1 to put in my house, the total price is about 400k. This is pretty steep and more than the cost of my house but, hey its only imaginary gold!

AzuraKin

Tapio75 wrote: »

Went to fighters guild and noticed that there was a furnishment vendor upstair on Riften.

My house is about 60k gold worth, i think this is good price for the size and location.

The cheapest furnishment on the vendor was Fighters guild banner and Daedric crest, both 10k gold, the most expensive was anchor pinion 100k gold..

I think teh prices are absurd compared to house prices though for the people with bigger houses, they might seem to compare.

First of all, the Fighters guild banner. this is something that should come for free when you are fighters guikd member, no banner for non members. we have saved fighters fuild and we are charged for simple flag to hang on a wall?

Anchor pinion:

This should be something, you got from dolmens, each time you touch a pinion, there should be a chance to get it on inventory (BoP).

Daedric crest: maybe something you can find from daedric ruins or in Coldharbour, small chance, or buy from guild with small price.

Broken chain

These should also drop from anchors with a bigger chance than pinions.

Anyway, those prices are bit too much, not that people have gold, they do. But some dont and something that has purely meant for fun like housing is, the furnishing should not be that expensive, at least not those that have some connection to your deeds and factions/guilds you serve.

I dont know about other prices, but what i have heard about hardship of getting plans, materials and so forth, i suspect they are not very cheap either.

I know that some wiev housing as "Gold sink", but housing should not be a golds sink. Housing should be fun and relatively easily accessible, natural crown greed demands that prices are not for fun, but this should not be so. Gold sinks should be designed around stuff that people NEED, not to something that people dont need but some find fun to play with.

I think we need an IKEA >.<

rofl, i wouldnt buy any of the houses, for the price and what you get, just overprices as ***.

Tapio75

@Shardaxx

Problem is that when one makes a full day to get money in real world, he may not want to bring the work to relaxation as well.

Housing serves no other purpose than adding to fun factor. I think that many of us are in quite a poor state in real world and while one cant do something there, he or she should be able to get out of that crap while playing.

jedtb16_ESO

Tapio75 wrote: »

@jedtb16_ESO

i assume there is. Could also assume that all sorts of otheer guilds and such have or will have their own.

there is also a mages guild banner....

Gargath

IKEA isn't cheap in my country, this megastore is considered for middle class .
But I agree some prices are ridiculous.

Although other prices at eso vendors are also ridiculous, so I'm not surprised .

Tapio75

Gargath wrote: »

IKEA isn't cheap in my country, this megastore is considered for middle class .
But I agree some prices are ridiculous.

Although other prices at eso vendors are also ridiculous, so I'm not surprised .

Yeah, i have noticed this too..

But i would rather place my gold on crafting materials to make weapons and armor for some folks. These items for fun should be comparable to real life prices and ways of aquisition. Like these pinions i talked aboutr. I would consider them as trophies i collected from field of battle, not something i buy from store.

Maybe there would be less to complain /for me at least) if the furnishing crafting was something that does not need tons of hard to get stuff. At least my feel is that they are hard to get as after Homesteads launched, i only have one blueprint and no materials at all

Amd i want to make my simple stuff myself for my simple home in Riften, not buy them from Crown store.

It was good though that someone here adviced that folks who sell style materials, also sell blueprints.

I_killed_Vivec

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

Went to fighters guild and noticed that there was a furnishment vendor upstair on Riften.

My house is about 60k gold worth, i think this is good price for the size and location.

The cheapest furnishment on the vendor was Fighters guild banner and Daedric crest, both 10k gold, the most expensive was anchor pinion 100k gold..

I think teh prices are absurd compared to house prices though for the people with bigger houses, they might seem to compare.

First of all, the Fighters guild banner. this is something that should come for free when you are fighters guikd member, no banner for non members. we have saved fighters fuild and we are charged for simple flag to hang on a wall?

Anchor pinion:

This should be something, you got from dolmens, each time you touch a pinion, there should be a chance to get it on inventory (BoP).

Daedric crest: maybe something you can find from daedric ruins or in Coldharbour, small chance, or buy from guild with small price.

Broken chain

These should also drop from anchors with a bigger chance than pinions.

Anyway, those prices are bit too much, not that people have gold, they do. But some dont and something that has purely meant for fun like housing is, the furnishing should not be that expensive, at least not those that have some connection to your deeds and factions/guilds you serve.

I dont know about other prices, but what i have heard about hardship of getting plans, materials and so forth, i suspect they are not very cheap either.

I know that some wiev housing as "Gold sink", but housing should not be a golds sink. Housing should be fun and relatively easily accessible, natural crown greed demands that prices are not for fun, but this should not be so. Gold sinks should be designed around stuff that people NEED, not to something that people dont need but some find fun to play with.

I think we need an IKEA >.<

Those are Achievement furniture, they are trophies, not the kind that you buy in bulk.

Think of it this way: If you want a regular football, alright, 10 bucks. But you want the actual football that was used by David Villa to score the definitive goal that helped Spain winning World Cup, fine, 500,000 bucks.

Yes, there is IKEA for you, it's called "Housing Vendor", there's one in every zone.

Price of crafted furniture is just hyped, they will go down in 2 months or so when furniture crafting becomes mainstream.

500,000 for the David Villa ball ? You were done there mate!

The ball from Iniesta's world-cup winning goal only cost me 100,000 gold.

Yes, in-game gold, not even crowns!

Madamova

hmsdragonfly

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Tapio75 wrote: »

@hmsdragonfly

Yes, Meridia knows, thats 6 that know of the deed. The initial Coldharbour assault is not the one where Molly is defeated, only planemeld. Five companions did the final deed. What they talked there, lets me assume that only those 6 knows of it. In that part of story some of the companions speak of nobody knowing, i think it was Tharn.

Afterwards yu are thrown to Cadwells silver and gold, when going to silver, you are a new face, nobody knows you.

But what ever it is. You are talking about ruling a country or a region, being hero that knows how to beat some monsters makes nobody automatically eligible for ruling anything.

As for these items, they are mere trinkets that one can acquire when destroying dolmen or raiding a daedra infested place, trinkets such as these, are worth nothing to anyone else than those that gather them as mementos from field of battle.

This matter is finished as far as i am concerned.

Cadwell's silver and gold are silly, let's not talk about it.

Stopping the Planmeld is important enough to be crown Emperor. I saved Tamriel from being destroyed. What have stupid Jorunn, whinny Emeric and overprotective Ayrenn done? Nothing. And I saved freaking Tamriel for Stendarr's sake.

Yeah beating Molag Bal doesn't make me eligible for ruling anything, so saving the Fighters Guild doesn't make me eligible for taking their precious banner

Oh, so you want the furniture to drop when we destroy dolmen? If so, RNG will be involved, like we don't have enough RNG already. I would rather spend 10k for it, I don't care, I have 1 million gold, I am not going to farm dolmens for that.

Qyrk

The price are fine. It's not something you buy in bulk. I consider he achievemnent furnishers as someone geared for the middle class Tamriel individuals.

What I do? Sell your vouchers, sell your housing items, blueprints, paintings etc. in the next week or so to increase your wealth. These are currently hot at the moment

Tasear

Pinion should cost 100 but flags should be free or cheaper.