Kick stam DD's from your PUG- it's the only way!

GreasyDave

Seriously people! These leeches need to learn and stop being carried. We have to draw a line and kick them before carrying stamina lightweights even becomes a thing. Show no mercy, kick them before they have a chance to say "hurricane, rearming trap", kick them so they see that they need to change their dirty stamina ways. Kick them before they've even pressed the "search for group"! KICK THEM!

Sorry I know there are other threads discussing balance but I couldn't help trolling that monthly thread that pops up seeing as how ZOS have trolled me pretty hard. This dead horse deserves to be beaten until it's kicked!

I'm an average player. I knew changes were incoming but I didn't know how bad until last night.

Over five months, by slowly learning, upgrading and improving, I've worked my way up from being carried by guildies to helping carry others myself. This week I've been nerfed back to where I was 5 months ago with 200 fewer CP and garbage armour!? A 15 percent drop. Not 2 percent, not 5 percent, not even 10. My stam sorc got hit by the perfect storm of kraghs crit, hurricane and trap. It feels brilliant, just freaking brilliant!

So, I know I was getting above myself. I've learnt my lesson. I will go back to being the one who's carried and in the meantime guys, kick the stam dd's! kick them before they bring your whole pug down! It's the way ZOS wants it. You know it's right

Not to be mistaken with my other thread:

"I got booted from a pug for being a stam DD"

ku5h

Did you complain when your classes were God Mode with introduction of vMA weapons and were doing 10k single target dps over magicka classes? When only way was stamina way, in both PvE and PvP. Just sayin...

willlienellson

Run cheese....eventually it molds.

Arrchangell

ku5h wrote: »

Did you complain when your classes were God Mode with introduction of vMA weapons and were doing 10k single target dps over magicka classes? When only way was stamina way, in both PvE and PvP. Just sayin...

Considering that u need more weapons from vMA for stamina, magicka still did more aoe, and look at now, it's better at both and easier to gear up a magicka class.

Dr_Rektar

Yes. Kick everyone. Magdk is masterrace now

Turelus

Can't we just kick everyone after they've helped us get into the dungeon?

I mean walking to a wayshrine takes effort, group finder means I can stand still.

stevepdodson_ESO888

willlienellson wrote: »

Run cheese....eventually it molds.

some people pay a fortune for specially moldy cheese

WuffyCerulei

RoyJade

I still put 30k dps without maelstrom weapons and with nightmother instead of twice fanged, with my stamsorc.
Yes, the nerf is real. Yes, my magDK and my magsorc (haven't tested the two other mags yet) has been heavily buffed. Yes, the game isn't balanced in trials. But except in raid situation, my stamsorc is still one of the strongest character I have. And once again, I don't have maelstrom weapons yet.

I will never kick a player based on his playstyle, troll or not. And I will never forget a class or a speciality I love, even nerfed. I'll continue to play, to improve, to enjoy myself and to give constructive comment in order to improve the game balance and fun.

OutLaw_Nynx

Stam is dead

WuffyCerulei

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

Stam is dead

TheUrbanWizard

It's going to fun being "unique" with my stamblade

DurzoBlint13

Dr_Rektar wrote: »

Yes. Kick everyone. Magdk is masterrace now

mag-knights have always been the master race....it just took people a while to realize it! Lol

Bislobo

I love it when people write in zone chat "LFG pledges DD 600+ cp MAG sorc" for instance... I think that tells a lot about current pve balance.

Izaki

ku5h wrote: »

Did you complain when your classes were God Mode with introduction of vMA weapons and were doing 10k single target dps over magicka classes? When only way was stamina way, in both PvE and PvP. Just sayin...

Remind me how much AoE damage was magicka doing? Oh wait, they were doing like twice the AoE output of stamina builds. Its even worse now.

The gap was never 10k DPS in single target btw.

At the introductions of vMA weapons, aka Orsinium patch, stamina builds were a niche. No one brought stamina players into trials because they sucked. After the DB patch, yeah stam became a little too good. SotH was pretty balanced. One Tamriel has ended all that, magicka builds were almost the same on single target and about 3 times more effective in AoE, as well as having great survivability and great utility. Now? Stamina builds are worse in both AoE and single target, in survivability and in utility. So yeah, if you're happy that the game went back to Elder Staves Online, I get you, but don't say that "its about time" because in the whole lifetime of the game, stamina in PvE was viable for 2 patches (DB and SotH).

notimetocare

Bislobo wrote: »

I love it when people write in zone chat "LFG pledges DD 600+ cp MAG sorc" for instance... I think that tells a lot about current pve balance.

Nope, it tells alot about how stupid the average player is though

raidentenshu_ESO

Bislobo wrote: »

I love it when people write in zone chat "LFG pledges DD 600+ cp MAG sorc" for instance... I think that tells a lot about current pve balance.

I gotta start doing that with my main.

Izaki

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »

Stam is dead

Read the patch notes

Izaki

RoyJade wrote: »

I still put 30k dps without maelstrom weapons and with nightmother instead of twice fanged, with my stamsorc.
Yes, the nerf is real. Yes, my magDK and my magsorc (haven't tested the two other mags yet) has been heavily buffed. Yes, the game isn't balanced in trials. But except in raid situation, my stamsorc is still one of the strongest character I have. And once again, I don't have maelstrom weapons yet.

I will never kick a player based on his playstyle, troll or not. And I will never forget a class or a speciality I love, even nerfed. I'll continue to play, to improve, to enjoy myself and to give constructive comment in order to improve the game balance and fun.

I pulled 41k self buffed with vMA weapons on the nightblade in 1T. I haven't tested with buffs yet. In a week I'll get to see my new DPS. But one thing for sure is that the gap between vMA weapons and non vMA weapons builds has been drastically reduced (only 3-4k now as opposed to 10-12k in DB). This is a good thing, especially for my stamblade, as I get much more gear flexibility when I need it, so I can wear say TFS and Alkosh and a monster set. Stamina is still going to be good when handled well, but its going to be tough convincing people to let you into a trial.

Anhedonie

Roll magicka. I ditched my magDK and stamDK.
MagSorc is a godmode compared to them.

Stannum

idk

@GreasyDave

Granted I did not go past the first sentence since it did not seem worth readin, but there are plenty of Stam players that can probably out DPS you by a wide margin. It is really sad how many narrow minded threads are created in these forums.

madeeh91rwb17_ESO

How can I make a great Melee Magika Sorc?

I hate ranged combat.
Distance is for.... kitties!

idk

madeeh91rwb17_ESO wrote: »

How can I make a great Melee Magika Sorc?

I hate ranged combat.
Distance is for.... kitties!

@madeeh91rwb17_ESO

Some content requires some ranged players and the stronger players can handle both ranged and melee. Keep at it and you will get it down.

GreenhaloX

Ha ha.. it's the stam toon, like me, constantly reviving those fallen lower hp magicka toons. Granted, majicka toons can damage from a distance, but low hp to compensate for higher majicka makes them a bit more flimpsy. Aside from stam sorc, other stam toons have to get in close and personal.. close quarters combat; lead from the front. I don't slam any toon/class. You can dish out damages and protect yourself fine, then we're all good. If you die.. that is what soulgems are for. Those who complains, *** about others' play style and builds and kick others out for no apparent good reason are flawed. A good team have peeps with all different kind of abilities and skills and not just solely relying in only one style. It is JUST a video game.. play to enjoy. Haters (and cheaters) are cancerous to this game. Meeting these types in trial or dungeon groups is like being in a toxic work environment!

kylewwefan

6 months ago....

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3778607/#Comment_3778607

DoccEff

I first thought this was another thread by that "kick everyone below 300cp"-guy.

Zinaroth

Stamina DPS in general is an issue compared to magicka, I know, but Stamina sorcerers were OP and needed a nerf; they are still the strongest stamina class.

HatchetHaro

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@GreasyDave

Granted I did not go past the first sentence since it did not seem worth readin, but there are plenty of Stam players that can probably out DPS you by a wide margin. It is really sad how many narrow minded threads are created in these forums.

Read the *** post, then, because you are making yourself look like an ignorant fetcher.

GreasyDave

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

@GreasyDave

Granted I did not go past the first sentence since it did not seem worth readin, but there are plenty of Stam players that can probably out DPS you by a wide margin. It is really sad how many narrow minded threads are created in these forums.

Perhaps you should have read on because you never know what a post contains till you get to the end

GreasyDave

ku5h wrote: »

Did you complain when your classes were God Mode with introduction of vMA weapons and were doing 10k single target dps over magicka classes? When only way was stamina way, in both PvE and PvP. Just sayin...

If you read more carefully you might see that I state my level as a DD. It's taken me the 5 months from 1T to get to semi-decent. I've never completed vMA (cos , I don't have a a mag toon ;P) cos it's a level beyond me.

I aint no elite, just a drudging drone who's been nerfed back to the stone age.