Why does it feel like my Attributes are going down as I level up?

NocturnalGuideMe · February 2017

Just like the title says.

seems the more i level the lower my health and magicka non-buffed points the lower they are

im level 40 stamina nightblade with only 10k magicka and i swear it was at least 12 k the other day, same with stamina and i have 46 points put into it and only 23k.

is it this build or the way im playing. i swear my dragonknight i made tanky and even his healtha and stamina at level 34 are in the high 20s and low 30s at least.

s7732425ub17_ESO · February 2017

This is just the way it is.

As you level up, your attributes will decrease. Also, gear will give lower bonuses. For example, if you are level 30, a level 30 sword might give you 1200 weapon damage. But if you use that same sword when your character is level 35, you will notice the weapon damage is now 1100.

Nestor · February 2017

Because they are going down as you level up. Fun.

The game buffs you big time to allow you to handle the CP160 content. But, as you level up, you need to gear up to maintain the same amount of stats. This is not a constant chase, but every 4 to 8 levels or so, you should turn over your gear. Nice thing is, the game gives you sweet dropped sets in each zone to do this with. So, put on the gear that benefits your character, and decon the rest, research traits if your going to craft or just sell the swag if your not going to be a crafter.

Don't forget Jewlery. And, don't sweat the traits, you want Training anyway as you level. But don't worry about sub optimal traits, your getting buffed in the first place. Just find Sets that benefit you.

SirAndy · February 2017

Because they are.
As you level up towards level 50, the level scaling that helped you survive while you were at lower levels is gradually fading out.

That's how it works. Having your gear up to date is more important now than it was before 1T ...

BlackSparrow · February 2017

Short answer: Level scaling.

Long answer: One Tamriel makes it so that you can go anywhere in the game without having to worry about being over- or under-leveled. How it works is that, from the beginning of the game, you are scaled up to the baseline of CP160.

As you noticed, this heavily affects your attributes. In short, to make up for the fact that your gear and skills are still low, your Health, Magicka, and Stamina have been injected with steroids... the lower the level, the more these attributes are inflated to make up for it. For this reason, you will see these attributes go down as you level, even though the base numbers under the scaling are getting bigger.

Once a character hits CP160, the scaling will go away. So, honestly, I wouldn''t bother trying to track your stats until then. For right now, just concentrate on playing the game and leveling.

NocturnalGuideMe · February 2017

ahhhh i see.. the ol' bait and switch!

Mivryna · February 2017

Your stats are scaled based on your level and your gear level. If your gear level is less than your actual level, it won't scale as well.

It's a bit screwy, but in exchange the entire world is open to you.

Seraphayel · February 2017

The level scaling is a bit of a mess. In lower levels you're immortal and really powerful but the higher you get the weaker you become. I had huge issues at level 30-40 where I felt really weak. After 40 it became better but it's still totally different to the “god mode“ during the ~ 8-20 level phase. It's no fun getting weaker with every level.

Heroeric1337 · February 2017

You scale to champion 160, so as you get closer to it the boosted states start going away.

driosketch · February 2017

Scaling over buffs your attributes at lower levels. As you get closer to CP160, this buff gets smaller, even if your gear is up to date. The trade off is you have more skills, more passives, and more control over the distribution of your attributes. It's not very intuitive looking at the numbers, but if you spend your points right you will be more effective.

STEVIL · February 2017

Seraphayel wrote: »

The level scaling is a bit of a mess. In lower levels you're immortal and really powerful but the higher you get the weaker you become. I had huge issues at level 30-40 where I felt really weak. After 40 it became better but it's still totally different to the “god mode“ during the ~ 8-20 level phase. It's no fun getting weaker with every level.

having leveled four characters since 1T - three to the 50-cap+ and one to the mid-20s, i profoundly disagree.

The power gain as you advance is just as phenomenal against same tier as you enemies.
in the past it was possible to overlevel the content and so that was erasy.

But there are two things in play.

First, at lowest levels - is it 1-15? - the scaling actually gives more than it would be expected to help low levels until they get their feet wet and enough skills to have some options. but that is gone by level 15-20 and you are back to routine scaling.

Second, and the biggie, is gear. if you let your gear go down compared to your level, you do actually get weaker. JUST LIKE YOU ALWAYS DID - against equal level opposition..

OLD SCHOOL: If you were level 20 wearing level 20 gear against level 20 monsters - fight away no prob.
NEW SCHOOL: Exactly the same but... you are being scled up 30 levels in "power" and so is your gear.

OLD SCHOOL: if you were level 40 still wearing level 20 gear against level 40 monsters - it hurt. You felt weaker.
NEW SCHOOL: if you are level 40 wearing level 20 gear you are actually weaker because you are being scaled up 10 levels and so is your (level 20 gear) - 10 levels not 30.

Scaling is based on your level and applies to you and your gear so if your gear is weaker - so are you.

that star rating in your inventory slot - it matters.

NocturnalGuideMe · February 2017

@STEVIL

damn dude. thats a handy factoid to know. i figured it did, but wasnt quite sure. but thats coming from this guy, who was whining about getting crappy gear drops without doing tons of dolmens and delves.

Hi my name's Dar'Dek and im new here

Seraphayel · February 2017

STEVIL wrote: »

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Seraphayel wrote: »

The level scaling is a bit of a mess. In lower levels you're immortal and really powerful but the higher you get the weaker you become. I had huge issues at level 30-40 where I felt really weak. After 40 it became better but it's still totally different to the “god mode“ during the ~ 8-20 level phase. It's no fun getting weaker with every level.

having leveled four characters since 1T - three to the 50-cap+ and one to the mid-20s, i profoundly disagree.

The power gain as you advance is just as phenomenal against same tier as you enemies.
in the past it was possible to overlevel the content and so that was erasy.

But there are two things in play.

First, at lowest levels - is it 1-15? - the scaling actually gives more than it would be expected to help low levels until they get their feet wet and enough skills to have some options. but that is gone by level 15-20 and you are back to routine scaling.

Second, and the biggie, is gear. if you let your gear go down compared to your level, you do actually get weaker. JUST LIKE YOU ALWAYS DID - against equal level opposition..

OLD SCHOOL: If you were level 20 wearing level 20 gear against level 20 monsters - fight away no prob.
NEW SCHOOL: Exactly the same but... you are being scled up 30 levels in "power" and so is your gear.

OLD SCHOOL: if you were level 40 still wearing level 20 gear against level 40 monsters - it hurt. You felt weaker.
NEW SCHOOL: if you are level 40 wearing level 20 gear you are actually weaker because you are being scaled up 10 levels and so is your (level 20 gear) - 10 levels not 30.

Scaling is based on your level and applies to you and your gear so if your gear is weaker - so are you.

that star rating in your inventory slot - it matters.

I disagree. My equip is always or at least nearly the same level as my character is (I really try to update it pretty quick e.g. with dungeon runs) but you still feel weaker from 30 on than you do before.

Being level 15 or 20 with bad equipment was in the end easier to play than being 35 with good equipment. Even with the best equipment you can get you get weaker throughout your run to 50. Equip doesn't really change the fact that with every level you lose some 5-10% damage you dealt the level before. It's funny when you recognize this during your leveling as I did using Blockade from the Destro Staff. With every level the DoT dealt less damage. It started with 1.7k on level ~ 10 or so and now with level 46 it ticks for 850 damage. The strength was reduced by 50% although my equip now is blue / purple vs. white / green equip back then.

It's definitely no equip-issue (or at least not as big as you tried to make it).

STEVIL · February 2017

NocturnalGuideMe wrote: »

@STEVIL

damn dude. thats a handy factoid to know. i figured it did, but wasnt quite sure. but thats coming from this guy, who was whining about getting crappy gear drops without doing tons of dolmens and delves.

Hi my name's Dar'Dek and im new here

you are welcome and also welcome!

yeah that green ring you just got may not be purple but at least it is your level. From everything i can tell even a few levels down is worse than green vs blue or blue vs purple.

So take the levels - they are automatic - and let the colors which are random work themselves out. After all, except for jewels you can always raise the quality but not ever raise the level except by replacing. A green ring or two wont significantly affect a 5pc with the other three being blue or purple mixed.

Enjoy.