For Magika Hakeijo vs Makko

Gedalya

I am not used to using Hakeijo for enchanting and I see it offers magicka, health, and stamina; however if I make two glyphs using the same potency and aspect, and one has Hakeijo, and the other Makko, will they both offer the same max magicka?

The_Protagonist

Hakeijo offers 1/3rd of the magicka given Makko

Hakeijo = 1/3 Makko in case of magicka the other 2/3rds are health and stamina

lolo_01b16_ESO

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Hakeijo offers 1/3rd of the magicka given Makko

Hakeijo = 1/3 Makko in case of magicka the other 2/3rds are health and stamina

That's not true. If that would be the case, noone would use Hakeijo.
In fact, 2 Hakeijo offer the same amout of ressources as 1 Deni, 1 Makko and 1 Oko.

Kawall

Gedalya wrote: »

I am not used to using Hakeijo for enchanting and I see it offers magicka, health, and stamina; however if I make two glyphs using the same potency and aspect, and one has Hakeijo, and the other Makko, will they both offer the same max magicka?

Gold magicka glyph give 868 magicka, while gold prismatic glyph give 474 hp, 434 magicka and stam. It's %50 of singular glyphs.

Gedalya

Ok, should have read second answer first; so is it a third or not? Any one else know?

Gedalya

Thanks all!

NewBlacksmurf

I made one glyph and used it but honestly I didn't see it as better or bes so due to the hassles of PvP I use makko and have never looked back.

I only needed it for the enchanting achievement anyways

UrQuan

Kawall wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

I am not used to using Hakeijo for enchanting and I see it offers magicka, health, and stamina; however if I make two glyphs using the same potency and aspect, and one has Hakeijo, and the other Makko, will they both offer the same max magicka?

Gold magicka glyph give 868 magicka, while gold prismatic glyph give 474 hp, 434 magicka and stam. It's %50 of singular glyphs.

Yes, so if you're using all tri-stat glyphss you'll have higher total stats than by using all magicka glyphs, but using all magicka glyphs will make your magicka higher (although both your health and stamina will be lower).

I love tri-stat runes to put on my tanking gear, because I tend to need all 3 stats when tanking, so boosting all of my stat pools to get a higher combined total is a good thing. For healing or DPSing, though, I prefer to use either all magicka glyphs, or all stamina glyphs (depending on whether the character is amagicka or stamina build) because that boosts my primary stat by more.

Kawall

UrQuan wrote: »

Kawall wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

I am not used to using Hakeijo for enchanting and I see it offers magicka, health, and stamina; however if I make two glyphs using the same potency and aspect, and one has Hakeijo, and the other Makko, will they both offer the same max magicka?

Gold magicka glyph give 868 magicka, while gold prismatic glyph give 474 hp, 434 magicka and stam. It's %50 of singular glyphs.

Yes, so if you're using all tri-stat glyphss you'll have higher total stats than by using all magicka glyphs, but using all magicka glyphs will make your magicka higher (although both your health and stamina will be lower).

I love tri-stat runes to put on my tanking gear, because I tend to need all 3 stats when tanking, so boosting all of my stat pools to get a higher combined total is a good thing. For healing or DPSing, though, I prefer to use either all magicka glyphs, or all stamina glyphs (depending on whether the character is amagicka or stamina build) because that boosts my primary stat by more.

Tri-stat glyphs are perfect for tanks. But not for others. As a dps magicka dk main I would get less value from prismatic glyphs. Maybe they add two-stat glyphs in future? That would be awsome.

bubbygink

The first answer was wrong. Hakeijo gives half the magicka of a Makko. It also gives half on stamina and health. So you get "more" stats overall. In PvE people mostly just stack damage so I don't think Hakeijos are used often. But in PvP they can be very useful.

If you ever plan on having more than one type of armor enchant (meaning not all magicka) then you should utilize Hakeijos to maximize stats. So, for example, don't ever use 6 magicka, 1 health. Use 5 magicka, 2 Hakejio. Because (assuming you use the Hakeijos on the same sized pieces) this will give you the exact same amount of magicka and health but also gives you a "free" stamina bonus too. So if you want to mix enchantments to get more out of health/stam use Makkos and Hakeijos to get the stats you want. Don't mix and match health, magicka, and stam glyphs because it's less efficient.

Biro123

Now what is more efficient..? Lets say on a PVP magicka toon - I want to increase stamina a bit for break-free's etc. So I take a tri-stat food. But that gives lower mag/health than the blue foods...

So.. to get the same amount of stam, Is it better on the other stats to go makko on armour and tri-stat food, or to go hajeiko and dual-stat food?

bubbygink

Biro123 wrote: »

Now what is more efficient..? Lets say on a PVP magicka toon - I want to increase stamina a bit for break-free's etc. So I take a tri-stat food. But that gives lower mag/health than the blue foods...

So.. to get the same amount of stam, Is it better on the other stats to go makko on armour and tri-stat food, or to go hajeiko and dual-stat food?

It that case it is more efficient to use tri-stat food. You only lose around 1000? maybe (I don't know exactly) health and magicka but gain like 4,000 stamina. So the trade-off is much more efficient. But if you feel that you still need a bit more health or stamina even with tri-food then you should use Hakeijos to get those extra stats. Let me illustrate why just to be clear:

For example, assume you know all your small pieces will be magicka enchanted but aren't sure how to go with your 3 large pieces. You decide you need a bit more stamina. So you enchant one with stamina. This gives you 2 magicka enchants and 1 stamina. Or, instead you could do 1 magicka and 2 Hakeijos. This gives you 1 magicka + (0.5 magicka + 0.5 stamina + 0.5 health) + (0.5 magicka + 0.5 stamina + 0.5 health) = a total of 2 magicka + 1 stamina + 1 health. So using 2 Hakeijos instead of a magicka + stamina essentially just gives you an extra free health bonus. So if you are ever thinking about mix and matching armor enchants (e.g. health + stam, magicka + health) use Hakeijos instead to get the same stats plus the extra free stat.

Biro123

bubbygink wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Now what is more efficient..? Lets say on a PVP magicka toon - I want to increase stamina a bit for break-free's etc. So I take a tri-stat food. But that gives lower mag/health than the blue foods...

So.. to get the same amount of stam, Is it better on the other stats to go makko on armour and tri-stat food, or to go hajeiko and dual-stat food?

It that case it is more efficient to use tri-stat food. You only lose around 1000? maybe (I don't know exactly) health and magicka but gain like 4,000 stamina. So the trade-off is much more efficient. But if you feel that you still need a bit more health or stamina even with tri-food then you should use Hakeijos to get those extra stats. Let me illustrate why just to be clear:

For example, assume you know all your small pieces will be magicka enchanted but aren't sure how to go with your 3 large pieces. You decide you need a bit more stamina. So you enchant one with stamina. This gives you 2 magicka enchants and 1 stamina. Or, instead you could do 1 magicka and 2 Hakeijos. This gives you 1 magicka + (0.5 magicka + 0.5 stamina + 0.5 health) + (0.5 magicka + 0.5 stamina + 0.5 health) = a total of 2 magicka + 1 stamina + 1 health. So using 2 Hakeijos instead of a magicka + stamina essentially just gives you an extra free health bonus. So if you are ever thinking about mix and matching armor enchants (e.g. health + stam, magicka + health) use Hakeijos instead to get the same stats plus the extra free stat.

Yeah, I see what you mean. There's no way to replace the amount of stam you get from food with Hajeiko.. Just seems impossible to find tri-stat recipe's nowadays!

Thanks!

AlnilamE

Biro123 wrote: »

bubbygink wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Now what is more efficient..? Lets say on a PVP magicka toon - I want to increase stamina a bit for break-free's etc. So I take a tri-stat food. But that gives lower mag/health than the blue foods...

So.. to get the same amount of stam, Is it better on the other stats to go makko on armour and tri-stat food, or to go hajeiko and dual-stat food?

It that case it is more efficient to use tri-stat food. You only lose around 1000? maybe (I don't know exactly) health and magicka but gain like 4,000 stamina. So the trade-off is much more efficient. But if you feel that you still need a bit more health or stamina even with tri-food then you should use Hakeijos to get those extra stats. Let me illustrate why just to be clear:

For example, assume you know all your small pieces will be magicka enchanted but aren't sure how to go with your 3 large pieces. You decide you need a bit more stamina. So you enchant one with stamina. This gives you 2 magicka enchants and 1 stamina. Or, instead you could do 1 magicka and 2 Hakeijos. This gives you 1 magicka + (0.5 magicka + 0.5 stamina + 0.5 health) + (0.5 magicka + 0.5 stamina + 0.5 health) = a total of 2 magicka + 1 stamina + 1 health. So using 2 Hakeijos instead of a magicka + stamina essentially just gives you an extra free health bonus. So if you are ever thinking about mix and matching armor enchants (e.g. health + stam, magicka + health) use Hakeijos instead to get the same stats plus the extra free stat.

Yeah, I see what you mean. There's no way to replace the amount of stam you get from food with Hajeiko.. Just seems impossible to find tri-stat recipe's nowadays!

Thanks!

Do provisioning writs. They are super easy and you can make stacks of food ahead of time and just hand them in. I make 20 of each of the 6 food/drinks each time and I'm set for 2 months at a time. May take a bit for you to get a purple food recipe, but you will.

The_Protagonist

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Hakeijo offers 1/3rd of the magicka given Makko

Hakeijo = 1/3 Makko in case of magicka the other 2/3rds are health and stamina

Yeah sorry about the mistake, forgot about that, the chaps who pointed it out are correct.