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Having fun with Storm Master set. New meta?
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80K dps against a troll using 3 light attacks.
Storm master might be one of the most overlooked burn set. I've been using it in Vet dungeons lately on my DW mag/stam hybrid.
* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Edited by tunepunk on June 13, 2017 10:41AM Storm master might be one of the most overlooked burn set. I've been using it in Vet dungeons lately on my DW mag/stam hybrid.
* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
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MaselClass Representative80K dps against a troll using 3 light attacks.
Storm master might be one of the most overlooked burn set. I've been using it in Vet dungeons lately on my DW mag/stam hybrid.
* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
That looks really broken tbh. You can stack the buff while charging a few lightning heavies and instakill everything.... Don't tell pvpers, they'll use it
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tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭Looks interesting. What hybrid are you running?
Main bar. DW. Lightning splash, Streak, Steel Tornado, Power Surge, Camouflaged Hunter, Suppression field.
Back bar, Lightning Staff. Elemental Blockade, Streak, Elemental Susceptibility, Rearming Trap, Inner Light, Suppression field.
5 piece Light, 2 Medium.
5 Torug's Pact
5 Piece Storm master.
Monster helm set of your choice. I'm using Iceheart set at the moment, as high crit will keep it up almost constantly.
Edited by tunepunk on February 6, 2017 1:38AM2 -
Gorilla✭✭✭Looks interesting. What hybrid are you running?
Main bar. DW. Lightning splash, Streak, Steel Tornado, Power Surge, Camouflaged Hunter, Suppression field.
Back bar, Lightning Staff. Elemental Blockade, Streak, Elemental Susceptibility, Rearming Trap, Inner Light, Suppression field.
5 piece Light, 2 Medium.
5 Torug's Pact
5 Piece Storm master.
Monster helm set of your choice. I'm using Iceheart set at the moment, as high crit will keep it up almost constantly.
Looks like your at 3:2 mag:stam?0 -
DragonBound✭✭✭✭✭Well hybrids are still lacking, I think it would benefit a pure stam sorc more, the idea is the fact that you 2 sources to instant kill an enemy below 15 health with phys and lightning.0
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Synozeer✭✭✭✭✭* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Have you tested this on the PTS? I heard something about heavy channeled attacks will no longer proc multiple times with sets like Sergeant and Infallible Mage, so there's a good chance Storm Master would also act the same way.Watch my PvP Videos on YouTube
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DragonBound✭✭✭✭✭* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Have you tested this on the PTS? I heard something about heavy channeled attacks will no longer proc multiple times with sets like Sergeant and Infallible Mage, so there's a good chance Storm Master would also act the same way.
I do not see why, it would make it obsolete completely, I think it is the auto aoe proc sets not the ones you get from light attacks.0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Have you tested this on the PTS? I heard something about heavy channeled attacks will no longer proc multiple times with sets like Sergeant and Infallible Mage, so there's a good chance Storm Master would also act the same way.
No i havn't tested it on PTS. Might have been nerfed for next patch, but for now it's overkill. I read somewhere that set item's can't crit also with next patch, so that will take away a fair amount of the damage as well, as it's critting now. Maybe someone would like to investigate?
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MaselClass RepresentativeCosmicSoul wrote: »* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Have you tested this on the PTS? I heard something about heavy channeled attacks will no longer proc multiple times with sets like Sergeant and Infallible Mage, so there's a good chance Storm Master would also act the same way.
I do not see why, it would make it obsolete completely, I think it is the auto aoe proc sets not the ones you get from light attacks.
But stacking the buff multiple times is in no way how the set was supposed to be working. Have you tried pairing it with a vMA Lightning staff, elegance l, kena and overload? Like 2 light kena, 5 stormmaster with jewelry and 2 armor, then 5 elegance with 3 armor and dual wield swords.
You could get the light overload attacks to do insane damage... Do two or three Fully charged lightning heavy attacks to charge up the weapons, switch to dual wield bar and light attack everything to death. Kena will proc overkill and elegance will give you another 20%.Edited by Masel on February 6, 2017 9:21AMPC EU
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tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭CosmicSoul wrote: »Well hybrids are still lacking, I think it would benefit a pure stam sorc more, the idea is the fact that you 2 sources to instant kill an enemy below 15 health with phys and lightning.
Nahh i tested that as well. It was not worth having everything specced stamina with this set. As the majority of your damage will be coming from the weapon proc, I had to respec champion points to benefit the lightning damage proc more, and go light armor for penetration passive.
If you're only using the set to get more chance of the instakill, it's not worth it. I've tested that too, and even with all those lightning procs it still doesn't go off all that often.0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭CosmicSoul wrote: »* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Have you tested this on the PTS? I heard something about heavy channeled attacks will no longer proc multiple times with sets like Sergeant and Infallible Mage, so there's a good chance Storm Master would also act the same way.
I do not see why, it would make it obsolete completely, I think it is the auto aoe proc sets not the ones you get from light attacks.
But stacking the buff multiple times is in no way how the set was supposed to be working. Have you tried pairing it with a vMA Lightning staff, elegance l, kena and overload? Like 2 light kena, 5 stormmaster with jewelry and 2 armor, then 5 elegance with 3 armor and dual wield swords.
You could get the light overload attacks to do insane damage... Do two or three Fully charged lightning heavy attacks to charge up the weapons, switch to dual wield bar and light attack everything to death. Kena will proc overkill and elegance will give you another 20%.
Nope i havn't tried that. But the problem is, anything below 70% crit chance and the set becomes less reliable and you will lose a lot of time doing heavy attacks to charge it up, so you want to go as high crit chance as possible for faster charging. I managed to get to 81%. You want the stacks to build up as fast and reliably as possible, otherwise you're losing time and DPS trying to charge it with heavy attacks.0 -
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✭80K dps against a troll using 3 light attacks.
Storm master might be one of the most overlooked burn set. I've been using it in Vet dungeons lately on my DW mag/stam hybrid.
* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
That looks really broken tbh. You can stack the buff while charging a few lightning heavies and instakill everything.... Don't tell pvpers, they'll use it
Its still really bad in PvP though. Considering all the ways people can mitigate its effect, you are lucky when you can get more than 4k damage per light attack in a real fight.
Just passive defenses have reduced the TT damage of 1.3k to 400 (500 if I had ele expert CP) on a player for me. And it is extremely unlikely you will ever get more than 10 stacks in an actual combat scenario. Maybe it has some merrit in duelling, but even there you basically set yourself up to get outpressured while trying to charge it.
It is mostly a meme set, but a hilarious one.
As for using it with lightning heavy attacks, since the set relies on critical hits, you will have to stack spell crit as much as possible to get any return out of it. That means 5 pieces light armor, which in return means 3-2 storm master jewlery pieces (probably 3 because who likes to farm for a sharpened staff) this in turn means robust jewlery, resulting in very crappy defense for a magicka build. It is just way too big of an oportunity cost to use this set effectively in PvP.
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✭✭✭✭✭* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Have you tested this on the PTS? I heard something about heavy channeled attacks will no longer proc multiple times with sets like Sergeant and Infallible Mage, so there's a good chance Storm Master would also act the same way.
Same will go for Sunderflame :P0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭80K dps against a troll using 3 light attacks.
Storm master might be one of the most overlooked burn set. I've been using it in Vet dungeons lately on my DW mag/stam hybrid.
* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
That looks really broken tbh. You can stack the buff while charging a few lightning heavies and instakill everything.... Don't tell pvpers, they'll use it
Its still really bad in PvP though. Considering all the ways people can mitigate its effect, you are lucky when you can get more than 4k damage per light attack in a real fight.
Just passive defenses have reduced the TT damage of 1.3k to 400 (500 if I had ele expert CP) on a player for me. And it is extremely unlikely you will ever get more than 10 stacks in an actual combat scenario. Maybe it has some merrit in duelling, but even there you basically set yourself up to get outpressured while trying to charge it.
It is mostly a meme set, but a hilarious one.
As for using it with lightning heavy attacks, since the set relies on critical hits, you will have to stack spell crit as much as possible to get any return out of it. That means 5 pieces light armor, which in return means 3-2 storm master jewlery pieces (probably 3 because who likes to farm for a sharpened staff) this in turn means robust jewlery, resulting in very crappy defense for a magicka build. It is just way too big of an oportunity cost to use this set effectively in PvP.
I agree, I don't think it will be a very good pvp set. A lot of people stack up on Impenetrable as well and moving around, it's very hard to get it to charge up reliably. In PvE, i've been using it for a while now, and it's a nice burn set with all the stacks, but I'm still not overpowered compared to other setups, as you have to rely on high crit chance and some time to charge it up. Boss fights are pretty much the only case where the multiple stacks made any major impact. Weave some heavy attacks in the rotation, then go full on with light attacks for good light attack damage. I still struggled to keep a sustained 25-30k dps, even with all the stacks (As i've not worked out a perfect rotation yet), but it's a fun playstyle for those who want to try something else. So far it seems very good for burning down adds quickly.Edited by tunepunk on February 6, 2017 10:12AM1 -
DragonBound✭✭✭✭✭CosmicSoul wrote: »Well hybrids are still lacking, I think it would benefit a pure stam sorc more, the idea is the fact that you 2 sources to instant kill an enemy below 15 health with phys and lightning.
Nahh i tested that as well. It was not worth having everything specced stamina with this set. As the majority of your damage will be coming from the weapon proc, I had to respec champion points to benefit the lightning damage proc more, and go light armor for penetration passive.
If you're only using the set to get more chance of the instakill, it's not worth it. I've tested that too, and even with all those lightning procs it still doesn't go off all that often.
Except your dps is not only from that source so that is an issue, you need stamina for most of your abilities.0 -
DragonBound✭✭✭✭✭80K dps against a troll using 3 light attacks.
Storm master might be one of the most overlooked burn set. I've been using it in Vet dungeons lately on my DW mag/stam hybrid.
* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
That looks really broken tbh. You can stack the buff while charging a few lightning heavies and instakill everything.... Don't tell pvpers, they'll use it
Its still really bad in PvP though. Considering all the ways people can mitigate its effect, you are lucky when you can get more than 4k damage per light attack in a real fight.
Just passive defenses have reduced the TT damage of 1.3k to 400 (500 if I had ele expert CP) on a player for me. And it is extremely unlikely you will ever get more than 10 stacks in an actual combat scenario. Maybe it has some merrit in duelling, but even there you basically set yourself up to get outpressured while trying to charge it.
It is mostly a meme set, but a hilarious one.
As for using it with lightning heavy attacks, since the set relies on critical hits, you will have to stack spell crit as much as possible to get any return out of it. That means 5 pieces light armor, which in return means 3-2 storm master jewlery pieces (probably 3 because who likes to farm for a sharpened staff) this in turn means robust jewlery, resulting in very crappy defense for a magicka build. It is just way too big of an oportunity cost to use this set effectively in PvP.
And considering he is a stam sorc as well he is loosing out on tons of dps, at this rate you might as well go magicka or pure stam.0 -
DragonBound✭✭✭✭✭I am still leveling, but I am wondering what the dps for stormmaster light attacks vs rapid strikes, so far rapid strike dps suuucks for me, I am guessing it gets bumped with champion points somehow.0
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KaiDynasty✭✭✭I don't understand, shock master should add 1500 shock damage to your light Attacks, you did 3, so it should have done a total of 4,5k of total damage (not dps). And i see 39 hits, but only 3 light Attacks, it is clearly bugged
Is it broken?Edited by KaiDynasty on February 8, 2017 11:25AM0 -
tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭KaiDynasty wrote: »I don't understand, shock master should add 1500 shock damage to your light Attacks, you did 3, so it should have done a total of 4,5k of total damage (not dps). And i see 39 hits, but only 3 light Attacks, it is clearly bugged
Is it broken?
Not broken. It works like this. Every time you crit on a heavy attack you get a 20 second buff to your light attacks. Having a really high crit chance and using dual wield, or desto lightning staff, can make you get several heavy crits. Especially if you did a few heavy attacks in a row.
In this case.. I did a couple of heavy attack crits on a previous enemy.
(I think 4 lightning staff heavy attacks, and crit about 65% of the time, so every heavy attack i get on average 3 stacks... 3 stacks x 4 heavy attacks = 13 stacks per light attack after that..... 13 stacks x 3 light attacks = 39 procs total. So that's how it adds up.)
So after that my light attacks are still charged with several stacks of the storm master buff, for about 15 seconds. It takes a while to charge up. Usually a series of heavy attacks to get it that high.
From last update they removed the crit chance from set procs, so you lose a lot of damage, so it's not really that powerful anymore unless you spec a lot of spell penetration, and damage increase in lightning damage. It still stacks though, but you lose a lot of time charging it with heavy attacks, so it's not so usueful in many cases.
When I run Vet Dungeons, sometimes group has already cleared most enemies by the time i've charged it up. But for the next group of trash mobs, I'm sometimes doing 70% of the group damage. It's somewhat useful in longer boss fights, if you don't want to bar swap a lot for your rotation. Build up power with heavy attacks and go nuts...Edited by tunepunk on February 8, 2017 12:13PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭CosmicSoul wrote: »Has anyone tested this with pure stam based and bow?
won't work, the trick is getting multiple procs off 1 heavy attack channel so that you can output massive damage after with light attacks(weaving, obviously). Since bow heavy has to charge for 1 chance to proc storm master it doesn't work0 -
DragonBound✭✭✭✭✭CosmicSoul wrote: »Has anyone tested this with pure stam based and bow?
won't work, the trick is getting multiple procs off 1 heavy attack channel so that you can output massive damage after with light attacks(weaving, obviously). Since bow heavy has to charge for 1 chance to proc storm master it doesn't work
But you have to use 5 light attacks to stack hawk eye anyways, why are these sets even in the game?0 -
raj72616a✭✭✭✭✭i paired it with infallible mage set and managed to get 20k dps on target skeleton.
i'm very bad at dps rotation, so i'm sure others can get it up to 30~40k with this build.0 -
Lughlongarm✭✭✭✭✭I wounder what kind of DPS this setup could get:
Stam sroc with DW in PVE using the Werewolf with-
1)Storm Master set
2)Molag Kena
3)Poisonous Serpent(with a group with some a Poison Damage abilities
The idea is to charge the WW ulty and the Storm Master set with DW, change to WW and rotate heavy attack+ability(rotate the buffs/debff and Howl of Agony), abilities followed by 3-4 light attacks(while you get the speed boost for light attacks from the special WW heavy attack mechanic). Because you mostly use light/heavy attacks for damage and getting stamina bonus from heavy attack on each ability casted, your stamina should be fine even inWW+Molag Kena.
What kind of single target DPS will you be able to get in along fight?0 -
raj72616a✭✭✭✭✭storm master set get nerfed after morrowind.
it proc much much less often with Lightning staff heavy attack now.
also it doesn't benefit from direct damage CP nor damage over time CP.0 -
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✭✭✭✭storm master set get nerfed after morrowind.
it proc much much less often with Lightning staff heavy attack now.
also it doesn't benefit from direct damage CP nor damage over time CP.
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tunepunk✭✭✭✭✭I just got back to ESO after a few months ESO break, and noticed this. Doesn't stack now
I still like the set though, but maybe not as useful anymore. They could have removed that it only procs on crits, and would always proc on a heavy attack.
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DeHei✭✭✭✭✭CosmicSoul wrote: »* Has great synergy with DW, as DW hits twice on a heavy attack.
* Has great synergy with Lightning staff as it can charge your weapons 4x on a channeled heavy attack.
Have you tested this on the PTS? I heard something about heavy channeled attacks will no longer proc multiple times with sets like Sergeant and Infallible Mage, so there's a good chance Storm Master would also act the same way.
I do not see why, it would make it obsolete completely, I think it is the auto aoe proc sets not the ones you get from light attacks.
But stacking the buff multiple times is in no way how the set was supposed to be working. Have you tried pairing it with a vMA Lightning staff, elegance l, kena and overload? Like 2 light kena, 5 stormmaster with jewelry and 2 armor, then 5 elegance with 3 armor and dual wield swords.
You could get the light overload attacks to do insane damage... Do two or three Fully charged lightning heavy attacks to charge up the weapons, switch to dual wield bar and light attack everything to death. Kena will proc overkill and elegance will give you another 20%.
Oo... Pls you and all other mages delete this interesting idea completly... i need to say again OoDeHei - EP Magicka Templar AllrounderDe Hei(Youtube)0 -
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✭✭pretty sure any set that procs off hvy atts is broken with lightning... shieldbreaker procs 4 times also. dw seems intened to proc twice tho.Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on June 13, 2017 3:24PMPS4 NA DC1