What is it that the dev. team can't see is wrong with their game here?

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSACZJXcGAU

Mojmir

Ouch

Asmael

Not hating against you OP, but this video is (among others) a perfect showcase of why PvP is absolute BS right now.

Erasure

We know you die, because you get revenges.
We know your weakness is being spotted, because you cut the video after people start chasing you.

Nice build, though. What are they to do, arbitrarily decide players *can't* oneshot each other?

Narvuntien

*sigh*. everytime someone posts these videos I have to open eso wiki in a seperate tab and squint at the small images and try to work out what the hell they are doing.

2h.
Power Extraction ( I think), Rally, Evil hunter, relentless focus, excutioner, Bezerker's strike.

S&B
Magelight, Vigor, Concealed Weapon, Absoultely no idea what the hell is that?, Shadowy Disguise

Is it clever alchemist gear?

Asmael

Narvuntien wrote: »

*sigh*. everytime someone posts these videos I have to open eso wiki in a seperate tab and squint at the small images and try to work out what the hell they are doing.

2h.
Power Extraction ( I think), Rally, Evil hunter, relentless focus, excutioner, Bezerker's strike.

S&B
Magelight, Vigor, Concealed Weapon, Absoultely no idea what the hell is that?, Shadowy Disguise

Is it clever alchemist gear?

This is what you're looking for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gt96TD_S9E

sirston

I hate these Kinda builds that's why I run heavy Imp.

Narvuntien

Asmael wrote: »

This is what you're looking for:

Thanks this is more useful.

I unfortunately don't have any DLC, so i can't get Velidreth or maelstrom, I can get someone to craft clever alchemist if I wanted to try it.

But I might be able to work something with a proc set. Do ultimates count as a weapon skill for Red mountain?

I am running spriggans, red mountain and Kragh atm, I didn't read Two handed ultimate closely enough it seems since almost everything I saw was all Incap strike.

I had plans on trying a bow build, but that doesn't ignore armor like this does.

Stovahkiin

Yeah, I still enjoy PvP in this game, but sometimes it really is just stupid and frustrating. Just yesterday, there were multiple classic examples of multiple AD not even being able to touch a single enemie's life bar. You know your PvP is broken when one person can fight ten people... and win.

Knootewoot

Look, another reason i retired from PvP. Might as well make Cyrodill a huge PvE zone for all I care.

Stovahkiin

This is also why people should NOT be excited for battlegrounds. It is going to be dominated by people who just destroy the enemy team in 3 seconds, pretty much for no other reason than that they have ridiculous gear.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

Knootewoot wrote: »

Look, another reason i retired from PvP. Might as well make Cyrodill a huge PvE zone for all I care.

There's an awful lot of very nicely done PvE content in Cyro.

It is a shame that many players will never see any of it because the avoid PvP.

A PvE Instanced Cyrodil (with PvP and AP rewards totally disabled) would be a huge improvement for the game IMO.

All The Best

Lynx7386

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

Knootewoot wrote: »

Look, another reason i retired from PvP. Might as well make Cyrodill a huge PvE zone for all I care.

There's an awful lot of very nicely done PvE content in Cyro.

It is a shame that many players will never see any of it because the avoid PvP.

A PvE Instanced Cyrodil (with PvP and AP rewards totally disabled) would be a huge improvement for the game IMO.

All The Best

agreed. there are times i try to go into cyrodiil just to do the pve content, but it never ends well unless you're with a huge group of people to help you avoid getting ganked. They really need to make it available as a pve only instance.

It'd also be nice with the one tamriel changes, allowing people from different alliances to group up for the pve content in cyrodiil. If I understand it correctly, you can do that in other zones, but you cannot group with "enemy" players while in cyrodiil to tackle pve content.

esotoon

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

A PvE Instanced Cyrodil (with PvP and AP rewards totally disabled) would be a huge improvement for the game IMO.

Would be nice, but I don't think it will ever happen due to the lore side of things. There is meant to be a huge war going on in Cyrodiil. They get away with you experiencing the 3 factions just... but I it would be tough to think of a way to explain away Cyrodiil being a war torn place that's at peace.

Mashille

I think I'm one of the few people who doesn't mind builds like this at all.

It's a 1 purpose build and is 99% useless in any other situation. If anyone used mage light or piercing mark then game over as it can do nothing in a regular fight.

People get annoyed over being 1 shot in a gank environment, but that's the whole point of a gank build. The build is a major handicap to the user if they get caught out at any moment or mess up their buff pattern and then they die.

These builds cut both ways, so, while they can 1 shot others, everyone can pretty much 1 shot them too.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

esotoon wrote: »

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

A PvE Instanced Cyrodil (with PvP and AP rewards totally disabled) would be a huge improvement for the game IMO.

Would be nice, but I don't think it will ever happen due to the lore side of things. There is meant to be a huge war going on in Cyrodiil. They get away with you experiencing the 3 factions just... but I it would be tough to think of a way to explain away Cyrodiil being a war torn place that's at peace.

Well One Tamriel did away with the Faction restriction everywhere else. So from my point of view they have very much lost the "lore cop out".

And it can't bet that huge a war - I spent 4 hours in Cyro today and saw only 5 other players, and 1 one of those was the same faction as me.

All The Best

Stovahkiin

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

esotoon wrote: »

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

A PvE Instanced Cyrodil (with PvP and AP rewards totally disabled) would be a huge improvement for the game IMO.

Would be nice, but I don't think it will ever happen due to the lore side of things. There is meant to be a huge war going on in Cyrodiil. They get away with you experiencing the 3 factions just... but I it would be tough to think of a way to explain away Cyrodiil being a war torn place that's at peace.

Well One Tamriel did away with the Faction restriction everywhere else. So from my point of view they have very much lost the "lore cop out".

And it can't bet that huge a war - I spent 4 hours in Cyro today and saw only 5 other players, and 1 one of those was the same faction as me.

All The Best

So, just because you only saw a few real players mean that the war isn't supposed to be huge lore wise? The number of people online at a time has nothing to do with it and is separate from the lore reasons of why Cyro shouldn't go totally pve at this time.

Yubarius

I think a decent change to make this cancer one shot go away would be to change the ulti so that instead of ignoring armor on the hit, it should just take away the enemies armor after you hit them with the ulti. This way it still allows you to beat down tanks, and helps alleviate this one shot stuff.

Knootewoot

Edit: quotes wrong person

Knootewoot

Mashille wrote: »

I think I'm one of the few people who doesn't mind builds like this at all.

It's a 1 purpose build and is 99% useless in any other situation. If anyone used mage light or piercing mark then game over as it can do nothing in a regular fight.

People get annoyed over being 1 shot in a gank environment, but that's the whole point of a gank build. The build is a major handicap to the user if they get caught out at any moment or mess up their buff pattern and then they die.

These builds cut both ways, so, while they can 1 shot others, everyone can pretty much 1 shot them too.

Ganking doesn't mean you should one-shot people. Ganking (coming from the word "Gang" meaning more then one people) is a group of people "gang" up to kill another player.

A lone player, especially the same level or not levelbalanced, should not be able to one-shot another. Maybe to 60% of his health. The reason to attack from stealth is to get the upperhand but the other should at least be able to defend himself.

It's lame, it's dumb, it's ESO-PVP

Imryll

esotoon wrote: »

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

A PvE Instanced Cyrodil (with PvP and AP rewards totally disabled) would be a huge improvement for the game IMO.

Would be nice, but I don't think it will ever happen due to the lore side of things. There is meant to be a huge war going on in Cyrodiil. They get away with you experiencing the 3 factions just... but I it would be tough to think of a way to explain away Cyrodiil being a war torn place that's at peace.

Holiday truces! Have a PvE Cyrodiil for a week at major Tamrielic holidays. In addition to the usual PvP campaignes, of course. Seeing Cyrodiil might even stir interest in PvP.

STEVIL

Erasure wrote: »

Nice build, though. What are they to do, arbitrarily decide players *can't* oneshot each other?

Sure. Every time i see the various "nerf burst builds ganks bad" i make the same simple suggestion if indeed it is decided that having the possibility of killing someone "too quick" is to be blocked...

Stop trying to play with the set numbers vs other numbers vs this and that... Safety Timer: "No PC health can drop below X% in the first Y seconds of an engagement - damage that would take it below X% is ignored until the safety timer runs out."

This is of course, regardless of 1v1 or 1vMany so it also serves to do a little about some zerg issues.

but of course, it seems some folks don't really think folks dieing too quick is bad as much as they seem to think them dieing too quick is bad.

:-)

Narvuntien wrote: »

I unfortunately don't have any DLC, so i can't get Velidreth or maelstrom, I can get someone to craft clever alchemist if I wanted to try it.

But i think you can get one piece thru luck of the draw from undaunted pladge keys and the right chest. Also, the PVP gold vendor on weekends cycles thru veli it seems frequently enough.