Desert Rose Alternative

Briuce

I have been enjoying my blazing shield templar tank in PvE. Desert Rose allowed it the sustain to stretch the fairly limited magicka pool (22k) to support and dps, both very relevant aspects to a good tank in this game, besides just being a punching bag. I have done some testing on live and without it things look pretty grim. I really enjoy the blazing shield tanking and the gameplay choices that comes with it(at least in PvE, I know not many folks are a fan of it in PvP) but without the sustain from desert rose I'm not sure the build is still valid. I guess my question to the community (I know that desert resulted OP with ice tanking, damn it...) is what other 5 set could I go with for magicka sustain in PvE? I'm looking at something that could proc around 2k magicka every 4 secs, and so far the best performing set was Bloodthorn, with 500 every 5 secs... and while it allows the shield sustain it's not nearly enough for the build to provide utility besides applying pierce armor( that is stamina anyway). Health builds don't enjoy much love from patches or sets or mechanics as it is, nerfing basically the only one that was fairly viable(and still not easy to master) doesn't seem like a spot on move(they nerfed malubeth too, you'd think one set out of 3 would be enough)

Alanar

I've been running the math on sustain sets, and if you just are looking for magicka, Desert Rose seems still about 2x stronger in potential than anything else out there. Other common replacements include Magicka Furnace, Warlock, and Lich.

fred4

If you just want 2K Magicka every 4 seconds, the proof of the pudding will be trying Desert Rose tomorrow. There will be a 4 second cooldown. Does the new 15% proc chance apply to attacks after the coodown, or during the cooldown? If during, will it proc again immediately on cooldown? I'm guessing not, but you never know.

Stamden

Alanar wrote: »

I've been running the math on sustain sets, and if you just are looking for magicka, Desert Rose seems still about 2x stronger in potential than anything else out there. Other common replacements include Magicka Furnace, Warlock, and Lich.

That is how it currently is, correct? After nerfs I don't think it would even come close unfortunately.

Yubarius

Neighbor wrote: »

Alanar wrote: »

I've been running the math on sustain sets, and if you just are looking for magicka, Desert Rose seems still about 2x stronger in potential than anything else out there. Other common replacements include Magicka Furnace, Warlock, and Lich.

That is how it currently is, correct? After nerfs I don't think it would even come close unfortunately.

Yeah desert rose will not be nearly as good. It's gonna be a 5 second cool down before you can proc it again on Monday

Draqone

Neighbor wrote: »

Alanar wrote: »

I've been running the math on sustain sets, and if you just are looking for magicka, Desert Rose seems still about 2x stronger in potential than anything else out there. Other common replacements include Magicka Furnace, Warlock, and Lich.

That is how it currently is, correct? After nerfs I don't think it would even come close unfortunately.

Where X = number of hits and M = magicka per second:

Old Desert Rose:
M = 2296 * ( 1 - (1-0.1) ^ X )

New Desert Rose:
M = 2296/4 * (1 - (1-0.15)^ X )

For those who require a more visual representation:



Mana gained per second on Y, number of damage ticks per second on X