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Morrowind Collector's Edition vs Collector's Edition Upgrade price, unfair?

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Alp
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What exactly happened with the price here. I only have the numbers in danish crowns but how can the upgrade to digital collector's edition barely be cheaper than getting a second copy of the game with the collector's edition? Why do people who already have the game barely get the upgrade any cheaper?

Like the base game costs 225dkk, the upgrade on top of that is 550dkk. If don't have the game already it's only 595dkk.

Shouldn't it be more like 370dkk? At first when I went on the side it said 450dkk which seemed fine but then the price jumped up 100dkk for some reason.
  • AKSb16_ESO2
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    True.
    Digital Collector's Edition is 79,99 Euros, standard edition is 59,99. 20 Euros difference.
    Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade is 69,99 (was a very short time 59,99), digital standard upgrade is 39,99. 30 (!) bucks difference...

    So I really hope there' happened a mistake with pricing...
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    It's an incentive to new players to pick up the game.
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  • Danikat
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    It's confusing partially because there are so many different versions. In the UK (and with prices rounded up to whole pounds) it's:

    Base Game: £20
    Base Game + DLC Pack: £40
    Morrowind Upgrade: £30
    Base Game + Morrowind: £40
    Morrowind Collectors Upgrade: £50
    Base Game + Morrowind Collectors Upgrade: £65

    I think it's basically a bundle deal, like the Gold Edition which gets you the base game and the DLC (and a horse) for less than if you bought them separately.

    So one way to think about it is just Morrowind on it's own costs £30, no matter which version you buy £30 of it is paying for Morrowind. Then whatever else you pay is the cost of the other stuff. So if you get the base game with it you're only paying £10 for the whole base game (but unlike the gold edition you'll have to pay extra for the DLC). If you get the Collector's Upgrade you're paying £20 for the horse and the spider pet and the other bits.

    (And if you get the base game and Morrowind and the collecors edition bits you're getting a raw deal because it costs £5 more than it should based on the other versions.)

    One thing to bear in mind though - it's highly likely that if you buy Morrowind + the base game you will get 1 account key that unlocks both, so you won't be able to use it to upgrade an existing account and create a new one.
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  • Floyd_Stash
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    can't pay with crowns.
    huge price for a dlc.
    they claim its not a dlc but it really is a dlc.

    i'm not buying. #quit-eso #waste-of-my-imperial-limited-edition #going-in-the-trashcan #heart-broken
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  • Alp
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    I agree that it's probably made to look good for new people but to us, the people who already owns the game, people who have put time and money into the game. To us it makes it like we are being treated worse.

    I am really bothered by this. Like I'm sitting here doing spreadsheets to see what I already know. That it doesn't look fair.

    If I didn't care about this game it wouldn't bother me but I do. I will end up buying it anyway because I want it and I hate that I do. That's really not how it should be..
    Edited by Alp on February 4, 2017 11:18PM
  • Lylith
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    Alp wrote: »
    I agree that it's probably made to look good for new people but to us, the people who already owns the game, people who have put time and money into the game. To us it makes it like we are being treated worse.

    I am really bothered by this. Like I'm sitting here doing spreadsheets to see what I already know. That it doesn't look fair.

    If I didn't care about this game it wouldn't bother me but I do. I will end up buying it anyway because I want it and I hate that I do. That's really not how it should be..

    no it isn't.

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  • Alp
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    It's all this on top of the fact that I don't see a difference between dlc and expansion packs. It's just words that in the end mean the same thing. I've subscribed since the release and gotten all I was promised for doing so. The new plan makes it unprofitable for them to let someone subscribe for a month and try Morrowind and the new class wouldn't be locked on already created characters after the subscription runs out.. I get that.

    It's just not fair.

    If Morrowind was released over a longer period in smaller sizes more akin to the current "dlc" zones so people couldn't just subscribe for a month and try it all for less than the cost of buying the full pack up front this problem wouldn't be there.

    But then we got new classes which already in itself can cause the whole "pay to win" thing to appear if it's ever stronger than the base game classes. You could make a character with that class and play outside your 1 month of subscription and expect not to get locked out of it because that would cause an uproar.

    So yeah I get why something this big isn't part of ESO+ but the price could at least be fair.
    Edited by Alp on February 5, 2017 12:55AM
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    That's like saying is Teemo stronger than Darius, just depends on the player
  • Danikat
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    So, bearing in mind the cost to buy just the Morrowind Upgrade on it's own without the base game or any bonus items or anything: What would you consider a fair price for the Collector's Upgrade?
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  • Alp
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    Danikat wrote: »
    So, bearing in mind the cost to buy just the Morrowind Upgrade on it's own without the base game or any bonus items or anything: What would you consider a fair price for the Collector's Upgrade?

    I would lower it from the 550DKK to 450DKK. That's about £10. The normal version and upgrade version have a 150DKK difference while the CE and CE upgrade only has about a 50DKK difference. So that would make them cost the same + all the collector's edition stuff even if you already own the game.

    I'm very tired right now and should probably be going to bed but its basically this:

    Morrowind
    • Normal version: 449.00 kr. - Upgrade version: 299.99 kr. - Difference: 149.01 kr.
    Morrowind Collector's Edition
    • Normal version: 594.99 kr. - Upgrade version: 549.00 kr. - Difference: 45.99 kr.

    So it's 100DKK more expensive for people who already have the game.

    I might need to sleep on it but my point is that it shouldn't be more expensive to get the CE edition for people who already own the game. If you don't already own the game the Collector's edition is 549DKK worth of Morrowind and CE stuff and the base game is only worth 45DKK.

    If we could give the base game away to someone else I would be more interested but I would guess it's only one code that adds the whole game to your account so that's not even worth it if that's the case.

    It's all giving me a sour taste in the mouth which feels wrong when you actually want to buy it.
    Edited by Alp on February 5, 2017 12:56AM
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    eleussinkb16_ESO wrote: »
    can't pay with crowns.
    huge price for a dlc.
    they claim its not a dlc but it really is a dlc.

    i'm not buying. #quit-eso #waste-of-my-imperial-limited-edition #going-in-the-trashcan #heart-broken

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  • MythicEmperor
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    I preordered ESO at its full, orginal price, yet I didn't complain about it becoming cheaper. I understood that it would eventually happen. They are trying to get more new players, and I am fine with that. The game needs to live, and it can't without the newbies.
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    AKSb16_ESO2 wrote: »
    True.
    Digital Collector's Edition is 79,99 Euros, standard edition is 59,99. 20 Euros difference.
    Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade is 69,99 (was a very short time 59,99), digital standard upgrade is 39,99. 30 (!) bucks difference...

    So I really hope there' happened a mistake with pricing...

    That kinda sounds like a mistake. The USD prices (I just checked) are $79.99 for the digital collector's edition, $59.99 for the upgrade. For the non-collector's version, the base release costs $59.99, while the non-CE upgrade is $39.99. So $39.99 for Morrowind, $20 for the base game, and $20 for the CE content.

    You might want to poke @ZOS_GinaBruno, or someone else from the Community Relations team and check to see if something got derped up.
  • Creepsley
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    hehe well in norwegian krone its actually cheaper to not buy the upgrade only by abit but still, seems kinda stupid that the upgrade is actually more expensive. 674.99 for the complete edition and 679 for the upgrade, just doesnt seem right.
  • Alp
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    Creepsley wrote: »
    hehe well in norwegian krone its actually cheaper to not buy the upgrade only by abit but still, seems kinda stupid that the upgrade is actually more expensive. 674.99 for the complete edition and 679 for the upgrade, just doesnt seem right.

    I think there has been a mistake somewhere.. Just like the price being lower at first and then suddenly jumping up 20% within the first few hours.

    It would be nice to have an explanation from someone official.
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    AKSb16_ESO2 wrote: »
    True.
    Digital Collector's Edition is 79,99 Euros, standard edition is 59,99. 20 Euros difference.
    Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade is 69,99 (was a very short time 59,99), digital standard upgrade is 39,99. 30 (!) bucks difference...

    So I really hope there' happened a mistake with pricing...

    That kinda sounds like a mistake. The USD prices (I just checked) are $79.99 for the digital collector's edition, $59.99 for the upgrade. For the non-collector's version, the base release costs $59.99, while the non-CE upgrade is $39.99. So $39.99 for Morrowind, $20 for the base game, and $20 for the CE content.

    You might want to poke @ZOS_GinaBruno, or someone else from the Community Relations team and check to see if something got derped up.

    Wow, this better be a mistake. Steam has the same price for the upgrade, though (69,99€), so it might be deliberate?
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  • MythicEmperor
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    AKSb16_ESO2 wrote: »
    True.
    Digital Collector's Edition is 79,99 Euros, standard edition is 59,99. 20 Euros difference.
    Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade is 69,99 (was a very short time 59,99), digital standard upgrade is 39,99. 30 (!) bucks difference...

    So I really hope there' happened a mistake with pricing...

    That kinda sounds like a mistake. The USD prices (I just checked) are $79.99 for the digital collector's edition, $59.99 for the upgrade. For the non-collector's version, the base release costs $59.99, while the non-CE upgrade is $39.99. So $39.99 for Morrowind, $20 for the base game, and $20 for the CE content.

    You might want to poke @ZOS_GinaBruno, or someone else from the Community Relations team and check to see if something got derped up.

    Weird, I preordered the Physical CE from Amazon for 79.99 USD. It can't be right for the digital version to cost the same.
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    MythicEmperor wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    AKSb16_ESO2 wrote: »
    True.
    Digital Collector's Edition is 79,99 Euros, standard edition is 59,99. 20 Euros difference.
    Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade is 69,99 (was a very short time 59,99), digital standard upgrade is 39,99. 30 (!) bucks difference...

    So I really hope there' happened a mistake with pricing...

    That kinda sounds like a mistake. The USD prices (I just checked) are $79.99 for the digital collector's edition, $59.99 for the upgrade. For the non-collector's version, the base release costs $59.99, while the non-CE upgrade is $39.99. So $39.99 for Morrowind, $20 for the base game, and $20 for the CE content.

    You might want to poke @ZOS_GinaBruno, or someone else from the Community Relations team and check to see if something got derped up.

    Weird, I preordered the Physical CE from Amazon for 79.99 USD. It can't be right for the digital version to cost the same.

    You sure it was the physical? Shows up as 99.99 USD for me.
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  • MythicEmperor
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    MythicEmperor wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    AKSb16_ESO2 wrote: »
    True.
    Digital Collector's Edition is 79,99 Euros, standard edition is 59,99. 20 Euros difference.
    Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade is 69,99 (was a very short time 59,99), digital standard upgrade is 39,99. 30 (!) bucks difference...

    So I really hope there' happened a mistake with pricing...

    That kinda sounds like a mistake. The USD prices (I just checked) are $79.99 for the digital collector's edition, $59.99 for the upgrade. For the non-collector's version, the base release costs $59.99, while the non-CE upgrade is $39.99. So $39.99 for Morrowind, $20 for the base game, and $20 for the CE content.

    You might want to poke @ZOS_GinaBruno, or someone else from the Community Relations team and check to see if something got derped up.

    Weird, I preordered the Physical CE from Amazon for 79.99 USD. It can't be right for the digital version to cost the same.

    You sure it was the physical? Shows up as 99.99 USD for me.

    Positive. I believe it is because I am a Prime member.
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  • GrumpStump
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    MythicEmperor wrote: »
    Faulgor wrote: »
    MythicEmperor wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    AKSb16_ESO2 wrote: »
    True.
    Digital Collector's Edition is 79,99 Euros, standard edition is 59,99. 20 Euros difference.
    Digital Collector's Edition Upgrade is 69,99 (was a very short time 59,99), digital standard upgrade is 39,99. 30 (!) bucks difference...

    So I really hope there' happened a mistake with pricing...

    That kinda sounds like a mistake. The USD prices (I just checked) are $79.99 for the digital collector's edition, $59.99 for the upgrade. For the non-collector's version, the base release costs $59.99, while the non-CE upgrade is $39.99. So $39.99 for Morrowind, $20 for the base game, and $20 for the CE content.

    You might want to poke @ZOS_GinaBruno, or someone else from the Community Relations team and check to see if something got derped up.

    Weird, I preordered the Physical CE from Amazon for 79.99 USD. It can't be right for the digital version to cost the same.

    You sure it was the physical? Shows up as 99.99 USD for me.

    Positive. I believe it is because I am a Prime member.


    Prime members get 20% off preorders on games. It's where I got my Collectors Edition. $86.xx shipped, guaranteed to be here June 6th.


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  • ShadowHvo
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    Hold on, where did you find the physical collectors edition in Denmark for sale? I cannot find it anywhere, and I would dearly like to reserve a copy.
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    eleussinkb16_ESO wrote: »
    can't pay with crowns.
    huge price for a dlc.
    they claim its not a dlc but it really is a dlc.

    i'm not buying. #quit-eso #waste-of-my-imperial-limited-edition #going-in-the-trashcan #heart-broken

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    eleussinkb16_ESO wrote: »
    can't pay with crowns.
    huge price for a dlc.
    they claim its not a dlc but it really is a dlc.

    i'm not buying. #quit-eso #waste-of-my-imperial-limited-edition #going-in-the-trashcan #heart-broken

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  • czar
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    Creepsley wrote: »
    hehe well in norwegian krone its actually cheaper to not buy the upgrade only by abit but still, seems kinda stupid that the upgrade is actually more expensive. 674.99 for the complete edition and 679 for the upgrade, just doesnt seem right.
    That must be a mistake. Have you contacted them about it?
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  • Alp
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    ShadowHvo wrote: »
    Hold on, where did you find the physical collectors edition in Denmark for sale? I cannot find it anywhere, and I would dearly like to reserve a copy.

    This is all digital versions. Not seen it either sadly.
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    Oompuh wrote: »
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    So, is this just the new tax for non-Americans? Can we blame Trump for this?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno I'd really like to have some confirmation on this before I pre-order anything.

    Physical CE: 109,99€ | $99.99
    Digital CE: 79,99€ | $79.99
    Digital CE Upgrade: 69,99€ | $59.99
    Standard: 59,99€ | $59.99
    Upgrade: 39,99€ | $39.99
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  • defiledcoreeb17_ESO
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    It's going beyond absurd, because they're keeping their silence about it. They should just come out and state that "yes, this is intended that the collector's upgrade in euros and krones is way more expensive than it is in US dollars or pounds, because reasons". Now they simply see that the Morrowind-crazed fans are buying it anyway, so there's literally no need to fix it.
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    I totally agree.

    Check this out: The Digital CE Upgrade is $65 with tax. If you have Amazon Prime in the US, you can get the Physical CE for only $80 with free LAUNCH shipping.

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    I'm an idiot and pre-ordered the Digital CE before checking the Amazon Prime pricing. For $15 more I would have definitely went with the Physical CE. I'm super pissed now. lol
    Edited by Remag_Div on February 5, 2017 7:39PM
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