Bow users and light attack spam!?!

Tapio75

Whats up with this behaviour? Almost every bow user i see these days, seems to just spam light attack? Why?

Its weak, gives impression of not knowing what to do and looks funny.

Whats up with this? Should bow have its own separate tutproal when you pick first up?

KingYogi415

They are out of stam and can't snipe.

Maybe they will save enough up for one or two wrecking blows.

-__-

Wollust

"play how you want"

GreenhaloX

Usually when I'm probably "spamming" is doing so to give it time for my stamina to regen. Well, my light attack from a bow does from 5 to 9k. So, it doesn't hurt to use it, and the damages stack and add up fast. Plus, it's quicker than pulling for a heavy attack. I'll use the heavy attack if there is time and chance to use it, but lots of times during a fight with a boss, you don't always get the time needed to pull for a heavy attack, for the stam regen. Thus, best thing is to spam light until you get enough stam back; particularly in the fight on that reborn world boss in Wrothgar.

Lokey0024

Either charging relentless or a 8 year old

JbSmooth

Tapio75 wrote: »

Whats up with this behaviour? Almost every bow user i see these days, seems to just spam light attack? Why?

Its weak, gives impression of not knowing what to do and looks funny.

Whats up with this? Should bow have its own separate tutproal when you pick first up?

.....
Well then you should read the bow passives


Hawk Eye
WITH BOW EQUIPPED
Your successful Light and Heavy Attacks increase the damage of your Bow abilities by 5% for 4 seconds, stacking up to 3 times.

and its getting buffed next patch

ArchMikem

I even found my first light attack bow spammer in a Dungeon group recently. I was the Healer and kept glancing back at them wondering what must be going through their mind. It can't be cause they're out of Stamina, that's why you do Heavy Attacks and even so they'd do the smart thing and go over to where I was throwing down Shards for the Tank and DPS.

My StamBlade has a Bow on the back bar and even I only ever light attack when I weave it with another ability like Injection.

SaRuZ

I spam it while jumping naked over people, oh... was that you?

Prof_Bawbag

When duelling I love people who just spam their light bow attacks on my templar. I'm never sure if they're taking the *** or that's all they know. They'll randomly use ambush or poison injection, but again, they mostly use light bow attacks. This is fighting people around lvl 30-40 on my lvl 10 alt. Crazy use of skills when they have 2-bars and I only have the use of 1 bar.

Most stand there firing off their light attacks whilst I just return the favour using dark flare. There's only ever going to be one winner in that particular scenario.

Tapio75

I experimented with this myself a bit. Light attacks seem to do some damage yes, with all passives and all but i still kill everything faster by using couple of heavy attacks or mid drawn attacks.

Though i have all points in stamina in these builds so i almost never run out of it.

Draxys

One time I had to carry a dps that used nothing but endless hail (but the wrong morph) and spammed light attacks. I'm certainly not a superstar dps, but I seriously don't understand how someone can not understand basic efficiency in any given role.

waterfairy

If you see me doing this on my nb it's to hit the 5 ticks to trigger that spectral bow attack whose name escapes me. Either that or I'm only a few points away from my ultimate and low on stamina.

Tapio75

JbSmooth wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

Whats up with this behaviour? Almost every bow user i see these days, seems to just spam light attack? Why?

Its weak, gives impression of not knowing what to do and looks funny.

Whats up with this? Should bow have its own separate tutproal when you pick first up?

.....
Well then you should read the bow passives


Hawk Eye
WITH BOW EQUIPPED
Your successful Light and Heavy Attacks increase the damage of your Bow abilities by 5% for 4 seconds, stacking up to 3 times.



and its getting buffed next patch

This works with heavy attacks as well and 5% more there is more than 5% in light attack.

And if spamming light attacks is really rewarded, it should be nerfed. People need to learn to play, not learn to spam.

Wollust

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Usually when I'm probably "spamming" is doing so to give it time for my stamina to regen. Well, my light attack from a bow does from 5 to 9k. So, it doesn't hurt to use it, and the damages stack and add up fast. Plus, it's quicker than pulling for a heavy attack. I'll use the heavy attack if there is time and chance to use it, but lots of times during a fight with a boss, you don't always get the time needed to pull for a heavy attack, for the stam regen. Thus, best thing is to spam light until you get enough stam back; particularly in the fight on that reborn world boss in Wrothgar.

No that's not how it works.

JbSmooth wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

Whats up with this behaviour? Almost every bow user i see these days, seems to just spam light attack? Why?

Its weak, gives impression of not knowing what to do and looks funny.

Whats up with this? Should bow have its own separate tutproal when you pick first up?

.....
Well then you should read the bow passives


Hawk Eye
WITH BOW EQUIPPED
Your successful Light and Heavy Attacks increase the damage of your Bow abilities by 5% for 4 seconds, stacking up to 3 times.

and its getting buffed next patch

And that's not how it works either.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

I use light attacks quite a bit. Reasons,:
If I'm at a dolman with a ton of ppl , or fighting "trash" mobs, I do it to get my Ultimate built up for when I go against a boss.
To regen Stamina, you use Heavy Attacks to get best regen. Or use dark exchange if you are a sorc..
So, no, not everyone using/ spamming light attacks is a noob.

skiptomyluau

I do this (stamDK 2H) as a way to quickly charge ultimate while out of stam.

Gargath

Few sets are based on light attacks, you can't be sure what these people wear.
Storm Master for example looks nice for bow users.

waterfairy

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I use light attacks quite a bit. Reasons,:
If I'm at a dolman with a ton of ppl , or fighting "trash" mobs, I do it to get my Ultimate built up for when I go against a boss.
To regen Stamina, you use Heavy Attacks to get best regen. Or use dark exchange if you are a sorc..
So, no, not everyone using/ spamming light attacks is a noob.

I'd say using an ultimate on a crowded dolmen boss is noobish

AFrostWolf

JbSmooth wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

Whats up with this behaviour? Almost every bow user i see these days, seems to just spam light attack? Why?

Its weak, gives impression of not knowing what to do and looks funny.

Whats up with this? Should bow have its own separate tutproal when you pick first up?

.....
Well then you should read the bow passives


Hawk Eye
WITH BOW EQUIPPED
Your successful Light and Heavy Attacks increase the damage of your Bow abilities by 5% for 4 seconds, stacking up to 3 times.

and its getting buffed next patch

Also trying to spawn my Morkuldin's proc.

Glaiceana

Gargath wrote: »

Few sets are based on light attacks, you can't be sure what these people wear.
Storm Master for example looks nice for bow users.

Yep could be this as Gargath says.
Also it could just be lack of knowledge, if they are a new player they might think "hmm this is a quick attack, lets keep doing this".

I light attack once or twice to either proc my poison enchant OR to pull mobs groups all together. Really depends on the situation.

Some people might think its good damage, maybe they haven't learnt a rotation yet or realised there are some more powerful skills to use.

Tapio75

Hmm, i think the passive should not work on light attacks at all, the spectral bow i kind of understand, while i almost always use heavy attacks wwith spectral bow skill (Which name i dont remember either), i just use heavy attacks as it also buffs the damage, therefore the heavy attacks do more damage as well but sometimes if im in a tight situation, i use light attacks to quickly get that spectral bow to proc and get enemy doie before i do.

I rarely use ultimates so i dont know much about that, only when really needed i do pop my ultimate but that seems to happen rarely.

In any case, i think spamming stuff should be in general, a gameplay style whis is not rewarded so well.

itehache

When I do this is to either regen stamina or to generate ultimate.

waterfairy

itehache wrote: »

When I do this is to either regen stamina or to generate ultimate.

Only full heavy attacks generate stam and magic

NewBlacksmurf

I think if used correctly, it's much better than a heavy attack and results from diff builds but is this coming up due to overall low dmg or just something you see but don't understand?

Logic:
-skill or passive benefit
-close to ultimate and light attacks is the fastest way
-low on resources

STEVIL

Well iirc there are plenty of powers and such scattered throughout the classes and weapons lines as well as gear like poisons and proc sets that will let light attacks return stats, buff stats, accumulate towards a bigger whammy or just deliver a bigger whammy. So it all depends on the setup and precursor to the spamming.

i do not think the overall game makes treats light attack with as much derision as some might think.

Tapio75

Vigarr wrote: »

itehache wrote: »

When I do this is to either regen stamina or to generate ultimate.

Only full heavy attacks generate stam and magic

While this has been my assumption for long time as well, there is passive in champion system that says "increases amount of magicka and stamina your heavy and light attacks produce" or something that way.

EDIT: I was wrong, it is "Tenacity" and it only says "Heavy attacks".

DHale

You can't activate hawk eye without light attack spamming so it's not going away.

Woeler

WAIT THIS ISNT SKYRIM ONLINE? DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO ELITSTSSTSTSTS!!!11!

Wollust

I am actually amazed about the reasons people give for spamming light attacks

Tapio75

DHale wrote: »

You can't activate hawk eye without light attack spamming so it's not going away.

Everything can be changed and improved. Is it rewwarding on damage side to get that proc and lose damage on the same?

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Vigarr wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I use light attacks quite a bit. Reasons,:
If I'm at a dolman with a ton of ppl , or fighting "trash" mobs, I do it to get my Ultimate built up for when I go against a boss.
To regen Stamina, you use Heavy Attacks to get best regen. Or use dark exchange if you are a sorc..
So, no, not everyone using/ spamming light attacks is a noob.

I'd say using an ultimate on a crowded dolmen boss is noobish

No, you misunderstand. I use just light attacks on dolmans with lots of people there to build my Ultimate for a future boss, not the dolman one.
Also, while in PvP, if we stop to do a dolman, we are always haveing to remind everyone to use light attacks so that everyone can get a dmg hit in and to build your ultimates for the next keep.
Also, as said above, light attacks with proper gear, (Hawkeye), and or paired with Marksman, (+8% Bow Dmg), + also maybe a Tri-poison + CP distribution? Light attacks can do more dmg than heavy if set up right.
But to OP, yes, new folks tend to not know better, but, there are reasons to use it on a regular basis.