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Class change token, warden and new world skill

Lyserus
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1.About class change, I will not talk about name/face/race change because they do not greatly change your toon's role and effectiveness. However, what is the main point of respec? To try different roles on same role. However can we really do that now with only respec? You can't expect healer other than templar, or tank other than dragonknight in the end game. So if ZOS want us to try different roles on one toon, class change token should come out.
2.Warden class. I'd like to see a new class, balance was never achieved anyway, so bring it on :/
3.World is overwhelming with vampires and werewolves now, why can't we have something naturalistic(maybe change the warden to a new world skill line?)or something aedric? That would add way more variety to the game
  • Lyserus
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    And a new *** sword skill line would be Nice :D and Change imperial's racial to add *** sword experience gain. Sword masters can't have only 1.damn heavy two heavy sword 2. Two swords 3.with a shield. Why can't we have a *** sword like a real sword master?
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    Why it is so damn easy to get to fifty the whole game is solo and you can go anywhere and level by rolling your face against the keyboard. Your CP follows your chr, and you will need the experience of lvling your abilities and how to play your character. Im baffled by this if you want to try another class play it dont buy it jesus.
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    And a new *** sword skill line would be Nice :D and Change imperial's racial to add *** sword experience gain. Sword masters can't have only 1.damn heavy two heavy sword 2. Two swords 3.with a shield. Why can't we have a *** sword like a real sword master?

    okay…one and half hand sword or hybrid sword, Guess I can't use that word…
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    After reading such demands for the I don't know how many times, I'll keep it short:

    1. Won't happen 'cause ZOS wants you to have several toons, meaning several times the grind for X and Y like shards and books or whatever. Mainly it forces you to spend more time playing.

    2. I'd too like to see a new class but I get the demand that they should balance the existing classes first. However, we know that won't going to happen anytime soon so I say yes, let them create a fifth class. Heck, even Diablo launches the necromancer class this year. But I wouldn't be surprised if they sell that as an DLC.

    3. Same reason as (2) I guess. Balance.
  • Lyserus
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    Why it is so damn easy to get to fifty the whole game is solo and you can go anywhere and level by rolling your face against the keyboard. Your CP follows your chr, and you will need the experience of lvling your abilities and how to play your character. Im baffled by this if you want to try another class play it dont buy it jesus.

    Well, I simply don't want to spend countless time to gather shards doing quests to get enough skill points for Another toon…if ZOS want to force me play more time by doing the same thing over and over again…well i won't.

    I can spend countless hours on one toon but make Another toon just to do the same thing over again? not interested
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Maybe they encourage you to do the leveling grind so you don't notice the thin endgame content...
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Agree about Class change token. Would be nice to change it all. I've respec'd countless times on my toons and have changed Race on two toons.
  • Lyserus
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    Maybe they encourage you to do the leveling grind so you don't notice the thin endgame content...

    Well I'm not actually an endgame kind of player… after I finish everything on the map (which I am half way there) I will go in pvp and level to rank50… then the new dlc should be out, and certainly homestead will get me play more… plenty things to do in the near future
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    Lyserus wrote: »
    And a new *** sword skill line would be Nice :D and Change imperial's racial to add *** sword experience gain. Sword masters can't have only 1.damn heavy two heavy sword 2. Two swords 3.with a shield. Why can't we have a *** sword like a real sword master?

    okay…one and half hand sword or hybrid sword, Guess I can't use that word…

    You mean a sword who's forger didn't get married? :tongue:
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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  • TheShadowScout
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    1.About class change, I will not talk about name/face/race change because they do not greatly change your toon's role and effectiveness. However, what is the main point of respec? To try different roles on same role. However can we really do that now with only respec? You can't expect healer other than templar, or tank other than dragonknight in the end game. So if ZOS want us to try different roles on one toon, class change token should come out.
    ...and since they are on record stating they do not intend to add class change, I guess that means... they don't want you to try different classes on one toon?
    Lyserus wrote: »
    2.Warden class. I'd like to see a new class, balance was never achieved anyway, so bring it on :/
    And as always, I say no to just adding a new class, and would much rather they add new skill lines, possibly in a way to "refit" new classy-ness to all characters, no matter if newly made or played since launch. You know, something like, say... https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/240186/class-morph-idea/p1
    Lyserus wrote: »
    3.World is overwhelming with vampires and werewolves now, why can't we have something naturalistic(maybe change the warden to a new world skill line?)or something aedric? That would add way more variety to the game
    Now, adding non class skill lines are a distinct possibility. I myself am sometimes a little bit vexed at all those suckers and furries... oh, sorry, I meant hemodeficient and part time animalistic persons? ;)
    Anyways, I'd love to see them becoming a bit less "hey, free skill line" and a bit more "monster among mortals", with added clichees and such.

    But I also would love to see more exclusive options in that regard. No matter if done as world skill line, or as another guild DCL (some ideas on those I put here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/306759/additional-guild-ideas - but there might be many, many more guilds that could be done, from Ash'abah to pirates, from smugglers to silver dawn, from ring of daggers to whatever...)

    I especially would love to see "religious" world skill lines. After all, werewolf kinda is declaring for Hircine, and Vampire is swearing off both aedra and daedra (just pay attention during their introductionary quest) - so what about following Arkay, Meridia, Boetiah or Sheogorath for cheeses sake!?!
    Oh, it may not give as much as becoming one of the bloodsucking fiends or the feral beasts, but there should be no extra drawbacks either... maybe not even any active skills, just some passives associated with that particular diety, yes? I mean... Mara likes healing, might be followers of mara get a bit of a bonus there. Mephala comes with spiders, so any cultist may have some poison resistance. And so on.
    And then there could be shrines to them all over the world, and priests, both of which you could interact with to gain a "blessing"... yeah, I am indeed referring to an much older thread here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/231126/worship-in-tamriel-an-eso-religion-concept/p1
    Lyserus wrote: »
    And a new *** sword skill line would be Nice :D and Change imperial's racial to add *** sword experience gain. Sword masters can't have only 1.damn heavy two heavy sword 2. Two swords 3.with a shield. Why can't we have a *** sword like a real sword master?
    That sword the forums won't let you name is basically a something between a long sword and a two hander. So... just use any two-handed sword that has a short blade, visually. There, done.
    If you want something more interesting.-.. you might have to go with some weapon line that actually gives something new to ESO combat. You know... maybe like: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/259011/additional-weapon-skill-ideas/p1
    ;)
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    Also we should be able to fly and have mounted combat and be able to buy VMA weapons for crowns and be able to one shot bosses and be able to be all 4 classes at the same time fun fun fun
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Lyserus wrote: »
    Lyserus wrote: »
    And a new *** sword skill line would be Nice :D and Change imperial's racial to add *** sword experience gain. Sword masters can't have only 1.damn heavy two heavy sword 2. Two swords 3.with a shield. Why can't we have a *** sword like a real sword master?

    okay…one and half hand sword or hybrid sword, Guess I can't use that word…

    You mean a sword who's forger didn't get married? :tongue:

    exactly XD
  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    I don't have time to level multiple toons. Guess who's fault that is? Mine. Overall it's not hard to level another class if you have some extra time. Plus CP from other leveled class is shared. Other games are no different. You are forced to level other characters. I don't see an issue with it. I understand your pain though, I wish I had more time to level other classes.
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  • Danksta
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    What would be the point of class change? You would still need to level all the class skill lines which takes about as long as leveling a character to 50. Unless this is another I want stuff that I didn't earn thread and you're expecting to be gifted the leveled skill lines.
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  • Lyserus
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    Danksta wrote: »
    What would be the point of class change? You would still need to level all the class skill lines which takes about as long as leveling a character to 50. Unless this is another I want stuff that I didn't earn thread and you're expecting to be gifted the leveled skill lines.

    I'm fine with non leveled new class skill lines, yet not Okay with go to places and do same quests over and over again to get enough skill points. Also, many things like craft research are not shared. And current difference between toons are not worth the time (if we have like two more world skill line then I am happy to try the different possibilities)
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    Lyserus wrote: »
    Lyserus wrote: »
    And a new *** sword skill line would be Nice :D and Change imperial's racial to add *** sword experience gain. Sword masters can't have only 1.damn heavy two heavy sword 2. Two swords 3.with a shield. Why can't we have a *** sword like a real sword master?

    okay…one and half hand sword or hybrid sword, Guess I can't use that word…

    You mean a sword who's forger didn't get married? :tongue:

    exactly XD

    It's very disrespectful to question the parentage of your sword. Duh.
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    You can't expect healer other than templar, or tank other than dragonknight in the end game

    LOL

    Sorry bub but my NB tank has do all end game content including vMoL. 2nd group PS4 NA to be exact. Any class can be played to end game there's that sorc tank on EU ripping up vMoL you just gotta know how to play.
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    I think each class skill should have added heal % or dmg % instead of just training with the actual weapon, cause at level 50 which you get there pretty fast anyway that racial skill is just completely useless.
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    @Lyserus

    Zero need for a class change with 8 character slots available with the base game. It's so easy to level up a new character that it's pointless for Zos to add class change to the store. Pointless.
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    Two words: Necromancer. Please.
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    What would be the point of class change? You would still need to level all the class skill lines which takes about as long as leveling a character to 50. Unless this is another I want stuff that I didn't earn thread and you're expecting to be gifted the leveled skill lines.

    I'm fine with non leveled new class skill lines, yet not Okay with go to places and do same quests over and over again to get enough skill points. Also, many things like craft research are not shared. And current difference between toons are not worth the time (if we have like two more world skill line then I am happy to try the different possibilities)

    You don't have to do quests to level, I don't do many when I level a new character.
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  • Wifeaggro13
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    Maybe they encourage you to do the leveling grind so you don't notice the thin endgame content...

    Ding ding ding. You sir have won the Internet today. This is exactly the case.
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    Why it is so damn easy to get to fifty the whole game is solo and you can go anywhere and level by rolling your face against the keyboard. Your CP follows your chr, and you will need the experience of lvling your abilities and how to play your character. Im baffled by this if you want to try another class play it dont buy it jesus.

    Well, I simply don't want to spend countless time to gather shards doing quests to get enough skill points for Another toon…if ZOS want to force me play more time by doing the same thing over and over again…well i won't.

    I can spend countless hours on one toon but make Another toon just to do the same thing over again? not interested

    Don't worry sky shards will be in crown crates 20 17 lol
  • Nestor
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    We don't need to change our Classes, we just need new Classes.
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  • Wifeaggro13
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    Nestor wrote: »
    We don't need to change our Classes, we just need new Classes.

    Absloutely. If they are not going to enrich or expand any of the current game systems new classes are a must.
  • Solanum
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    I'm in favour of a class change token.

    Sure, you can roll a new character, but if you want to keep the current name with your char, your achievements, alliance rank, benefits to your mount, research to traits for crafting... rerolling isn't going to cut it.

    It's not about levelling to 50 only.
  • NochDguir
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    Solanum wrote: »
    I'm in favour of a class change token.

    Sure, you can roll a new character, but if you want to keep the current name with your char, your achievements, alliance rank, benefits to your mount, research to traits for crafting... rerolling isn't going to cut it.

    It's not about levelling to 50 only.

    ∆ this. My first character is a sorcerer ( still love the class) but I'd love to be able to re roll him into a new class and keep all my sp, months of mount training, months of crafting research etc... Make it expensive in the store so people think twice about re rolling but it would be nice to do...
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    263 CP and climbing! now to craft a few sets of 150 gear and grind out some 160 gear monster sets...
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