When is spellcrafting coming ?

KimoBitz

Greetings to my fellow Adventurers,

Ever since I heard about Spellcrafting coming to ESO I was very enthusiastic and eager to try it out,however once I read it has been back-burnered,I was rather disappointed.In my opinion I find this unique system could've made ESO a truly distinctive MMO.That being said,I would be more than happy if a ZOS dev could confirm that spellcrafting is coming this year.

Saltypretzels

There has been no indication that it will ever come. Consider it postponed indefinitely until we hear otherwise.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Last I heard it was something they still wanted to do, but not something they are actively working on. But that was a while ago, so who knows.

Emencie

I would love it, it was one of my favorite things about oblivion.
However thinking back to some of the spells I made, I can see how it would be an absolute balancing nightmare.
Something tells me we will not see it until the devs feel we have a very balanced and stable skill/gear system that they are finally happy with.

trinimacNcheese

I think never, sadly

DRXHarbinger

Never. Although want to craft spell that costs 44k magika single target thunderbolt. Or a proper 1k ulti hit for instakill and watch the forum catch fire asking for spell crafting nerfs...

bubbygink

I hope ZoS never introduces spellcrafting. So many people remember it fondly from the previous Elder Scrolls games and think they are going to be a special snowflake that comes up with some niche, powerful spell that nobody else will think of. But the reality is that certain theorycrafters will just come up with the strongest crafted skills that everyone will have to run to be competitive in PvE or PvP, which would destroy build diversity.

TheShadowScout

KimoBitz wrote: »

When is spellcrafting coming ?

Ahnastashia

There was a video of Quakecon in 2014 (yes, I know that was a long time ago, and things can change), where ESO laid out their spellcrafting system:

Jump to about 52:50 minutes in the video to see what, at the time, was going to be the spellcrafting system.

I really hope they come out with this, it looks awesome! Come on, ZOS you had the spellcrafting foundational system finished 3 years ago!

FleetwoodSmack

If people actually watched the QuakeCon spiel about it; it's not like legitimate spellcrafting. In fact, it's akin to how the Enchanting system works, at least what was shown all that time ago.

That being said, it's on the backburner indefinitely. Until there's an actual developer on the team aside from Wrobel that knows how to actually balance and not call skills of the game his 'children', it'll probably remain there indefinitely until it's cancelled.

Emencie

bubbygink wrote: »

I hope ZoS never introduces spellcrafting. So many people remember it fondly from the previous Elder Scrolls games and think they are going to be a special snowflake that comes up with some niche, powerful spell that nobody else will think of. But the reality is that certain theorycrafters will just come up with the strongest crafted skills that everyone will have to run to be competitive in PvE or PvP, which would destroy build diversity.

Pretty much.

Also we have the class system problem. Since all 4 classes are not built the same, there may be (will be) some crafted spell combos that will remove all weaknesses, or enhance strengths to a breaking point. Again destroying build diversity.

As much as I would love spell crafting I understand how insane it could make the game.

Acrolas

You basically get spellcrafting by slotting poisons onto a stave.

But since we have this dual wield magicka meta, you'd need to be at melee range to proc those poisons. So the question really isn't when is spellcrafting coming. It's how can we get people to prefer using staves again so we can enhance the system we already have.

bubbygink

Emencie wrote: »

Pretty much.

Also we have the class system problem. Since all 4 classes are not built the same, there may be (will be) some crafted spell combos that will remove all weaknesses, or enhance strengths to a breaking point. Again destroying build diversity.

As much as I would love spell crafting I understand how insane it could make the game.

Yep, I totally agree. I love spellcrafting in previous Elder Scrolls games so it isn't a knock on it but the reality is that type of system just won't work in an MMO.

idk

@KimoBitz

The last indication devs gave us is that no one was working on spellcrafting.

Basically it appears no one has put any effort into it at all and considering the design work and attempt to have it balanced for something that's has to be part of the base game I don't see a financial incentive for Zos to make it a priority.

Thealteregoroman

Its going to be HILARIOUS if/when the road ahead comes out and there is hint to spellcrafting. I am going to spend the whole day saying I FREAKEN told you so.

Draconerus

I would be happy with more world skill lines for things such as illusion or alteration and summoning.

idk

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Its going to be HILARIOUS if/when the road ahead comes out and there is hint to spellcrafting. I am going to spend the whole day saying I FREAKEN told you so.

@Thealteregoroman

Until Zos gives us some clue that they are considering it again it's a pointless waste of time to speculate when Zos might work on it.

So if you want to waste your time telling us how much you wasted your time then go ahead.

Oh, oh, yea. Zos did mentioned spellcrafting before. Over two years ago. Ofc they have mentioned since they aren't working on it. Lol

Runs

Thealteregoroman

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

Its going to be HILARIOUS if/when the road ahead comes out and there is hint to spellcrafting. I am going to spend the whole day saying I FREAKEN told you so.

@Thealteregoroman

Until Zos gives us some clue that they are considering it again it's a pointless waste of time to speculate when Zos might work on it.

So if you want to waste your time telling us how much you wasted your time then go ahead.

Oh, oh, yea. Zos did mentioned spellcrafting before. Over two years ago. Ofc they have mentioned since they aren't working on it. Lol

@Giles.floydub17_ESO Wanna bet?

KimoBitz

trinimacNcheese wrote: »

I think never, sadly

That is not a fact,as the devs actually stated that they delayed the system.They didn't say its totally cancelled

Katahdin

Spellcrafting was in the other games but they were single player games. Iirc, they decided that it won't work in an MMO setting (too OP or something)and that os why no one is working on it.

Thealteregoroman

KimoBitz wrote: »

trinimacNcheese wrote: »

I think never, sadly

That is not a fact,as the devs actually stated that they delayed the system.They didn't say its totally cancelled

Right?!?!?! I don't know why people are saying its totally canceled........if and when this comes out no other MMO is going to be able to touch this game.

KimoBitz

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

KimoBitz wrote: »

trinimacNcheese wrote: »

I think never, sadly

That is not a fact,as the devs actually stated that they delayed the system.They didn't say its totally cancelled

Right?!?!?! I don't know why people are saying its totally canceled........if and when this comes out no other MMO is going to be able to touch this game.

Exactly

OtarTheMad

The devs had to shelf it because the brains behind the idea left ZOS. Last I heard it was something that they wanted to do and maybe even release sometime this year but it basically has no eta.

They would also have to rework it so that it doesn't make magicka build super OP so they would have to have it benefit both magicka and stamina somehow. I, for one, am dying to have some actual Elder Scrolls spells in this game and it would really expand my fun and open up some build ideas.

Uriel_Nocturne

"Soon".

TrueGreenSmoker

2040ish LOL! but serious I don't know ALOT of people want this and I mean ALOT either they will never use it or it might in the future but people who want to use it pay for it like crafting bags you know ZoS want that $$$ lol

Iselin

It'll come when they figure out a way to hook it to the crown store.

Enslaved

Runs wrote: »

>clicking on cancel for 10 minutes
>no ETA on cancel to no ETA to work
>mfw

THEDKEXPERIENCE

If they ever did this there is a 100% chance I would break the game. And you think radiant oppression is bad? Like the guy at the top said, you better get ready for a spell that costs 40k and incinerates emperors.

Also, to the person who said that you can already put poisons on staves to effect a similar result ... shhhhhhh. "They" haven't figured that out yet! Haha. Gotta love my heavy attack that has a double damage over time poison on it. Yup, totally not OP.

Saucy_Jack

Just code it so crafted spells aren't available in PVP.

For PVE people, they more or less fall into a couple of camps:

- the players that want to get the best scores on the trial leaderboards: spellcrafting helps with that.
- the players that want a little more help in completing difficult content: spellcrafting helps with that.
- the players who want a hard challenge: not using crafted spells helps with that.
- the players who don't want casuals to be able to complete hard content: I put these people in the same boat that I put Martin Shkreli; nothing can help them.

Boom, I just solved spellcrafting; you're welcome.

Thealteregoroman

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

If they ever did this there is a 100% chance I would break the game. And you think radiant oppression is bad? Like the guy at the top said, you better get ready for a spell that costs 40k and incinerates emperors.

Also, to the person who said that you can already put poisons on staves to effect a similar result ... shhhhhhh. "They" haven't figured that out yet! Haha. Gotta love my heavy attack that has a double damage over time poison on it. Yup, totally not OP.