Confused

moodslimeub17_ESO

So I just returned to the game 2 days ago after a couple years away.

Rolled an Orc DK and I always play as a melee heavy PVE DPS character pretty much regardless of type/ race/ class.

I keep reading Stam builds dead in a couple PTS forum threads.

Anyone know what they mean? I read the patch notes and I must be not understanding something. (or is this just for the bleeding edge .05%)

Thanks!

Durham

This looks to be more of a big nerf patch then anything else ...
Some things needed to be balanced just sucks when people have golded stuff out ...

Lashiing

Standard of Might (Dragonknight Standard morph): This morph now increases your damage done and decreases your damage taken by 12/13/14/15% while standing inside the standard, down from 17/18/19/20%.

Rearming Trap (Trap Beast morph): Decreased the damage done by each trap summoned from this morph by 30%.

Adjusted the Area of Effect damage thresholds for all abilities. The new thresholds are as follows:
Targets 1 – 6: 100% damage taken with all secondary effects applied.
Targets 7 – 24: 75% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 50% damage taken).
Targets 25 – 60: 50% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 25% damage taken).

Major Force: This buff category’s Critical Damage bonus is now an additive bonus instead of a multiplicative one (consistent with all other Critical Damage bonuses), but its value has been reduced to a 15% Critical Damage bonus to compensate from 30%. Total Critical Damage bonus from this buff remains unchanged.
Minor Force: Reduced this buff category’s Critical Damage bonus to 10% from 12%.

e/ also lowering 1h's base damage

e// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVHlcP8Sq0M

Artemiisia

they mean that stamina dps is dead, in competition aspect of the game, going for trial leader-board endgame progression.

They will still do great dps, however if you plan on going for top 20 in trials leaderboard, magicka will out preform stamina

moodslimeub17_ESO

Standard of might stinks damn didn't see that.

I don't do PVP so trap is a wash at least for me.

Need to look up what major force is hmm. (Ah looks like its some sort of a buff that buffs crit dmg so a wash really hrm)

Now the one that REALLY interests me to know more about is 1h base dmg lowered? Is this for DW or all 1h weapons?

moodslimeub17_ESO

Artemiisia wrote: »

they mean that stamina dps is dead, in competition aspect of the game, going for trial leader-board endgame progression.

They will still do great dps, however if you plan on going for top 20 in trials leaderboard, magicka will out preform stamina

Thanks for clearing this up for me guys. Got nervous my char wasn't going to be viable to play or something! Guessing I wont notice since I'm pretty much a noob again (guess that's good in this case heh)

Yeah I doubt I'll ever get that far. Sucks for those who are trying for that though!

Lashiing

trap is huge for pve
as is major/minor force

here's the exact wording for the damage

Increased the Dual Wield Weapon and Spell Damage penalty by roughly 3%. Weapon and Spell Damage while Dual Wielding (without modifiers) is now equal to using a Two Handed weapon.

people say stam is dead beacuse it is a noticeable difference in endgame as stated above
a friend went from 56k dps to 45k

Durham

Stam also took a big hit in PVP also.... Heavy attack nerf affects the Stam builds disportionately imo...

Aedaryl

On PvP side, Stamina > all, with the new nerfs comming, stamina wil be a little more balanced.

On PvE side,....meh.... what's .....PvE ?

OrphanHelgen

Lashiing wrote: »

Standard of Might (Dragonknight Standard morph): This morph now increases your damage done and decreases your damage taken by 12/13/14/15% while standing inside the standard, down from 17/18/19/20%.

Rearming Trap (Trap Beast morph): Decreased the damage done by each trap summoned from this morph by 30%.

Adjusted the Area of Effect damage thresholds for all abilities. The new thresholds are as follows:
Targets 1 – 6: 100% damage taken with all secondary effects applied.
Targets 7 – 24: 75% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 50% damage taken).
Targets 25 – 60: 50% damage taken with no secondary effects applied (formerly 25% damage taken).

Major Force: This buff category’s Critical Damage bonus is now an additive bonus instead of a multiplicative one (consistent with all other Critical Damage bonuses), but its value has been reduced to a 15% Critical Damage bonus to compensate from 30%. Total Critical Damage bonus from this buff remains unchanged.
Minor Force: Reduced this buff category’s Critical Damage bonus to 10% from 12%.

e/ also lowering 1h's base damage

e// https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVHlcP8Sq0M

Also wpn and spell dmg from dual wield nerfed by 3%

Edit: Ah nvm you wrote that, sorry midded that XD

OrphanHelgen

Btw, did zenimax tell us exactly why they nerf stamina like this? I havent seen anything from them about this subject, regardless all theese forum posts. Its literally raining complains from the most experienced raiders out there.

moodslimeub17_ESO

Ah so DW and 2h are the same DPS now ability wise as well? Or just std attacks?

KundaliniHero

moodslimeub17_ESO wrote: »

Standard of might stinks damn didn't see that.

I don't do PVP so trap is a wash at least for me.

Need to look up what major force is hmm. (Ah looks like its some sort of a buff that buffs crit dmg so a wash really hrm)

Now the one that REALLY interests me to know more about is 1h base dmg lowered? Is this for DW or all 1h weapons?

Trap is a major dps increase in PVE for stam, so you are still losing damage.

Bandit1215

Seems like it's a good thing I'm finally gearing out magicka classes! RIP my stamsorc...

Artemiisia

Bandit1215 wrote: »

Seems like it's a good thing I'm finally gearing out magicka classes! RIP my stamsorc...

I had magicka sorc and made a new char to get stam sorc, now im happy I have both types so I can jump between them