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Possibly coming back to the game
AgentRed
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So I have been gone from the game for over 33month I got frustrated with all the bugs. So I wanted to give this game a try again so what did I miss? Also what should I do or get XD
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BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Uuuuuh... that's a lot to go over. XD
DLCs like Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood (including a crime and punishment system), class skill revamps, reversion of the story line to begin on starter islands, One Tamriel, dozens of added gear sets, Crown Crates, upcoming housing...
Really, you're best off just creating a new character and starting over. A lot of the broad strokes are the same, but details have fluctuated wildly.
(And there are still occasionally bugs. But yeah, it's waaaay better in that department than it was at launch.
) Edited by BlackSparrow on January 16, 2017 10:46PMLiving vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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Let me know what you think. I'm biased against One Tamriel, so I'd like to see a beta tester play the latest iteration.0 -
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✭✭✭✭If you are into PvE, it's a great patch.
If you are into PvP, you might as well just wait for the next patch.Susano'o
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I hated it for PvE. That's all I play and can't stand it. I'm going to try it again; I haven't actually played it since end of October, and very little in December.0
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✭Ti_Englesmythe wrote: »I hated it for PvE. That's all I play and can't stand it. I'm going to try it again; I haven't actually played it since end of October, and very little in December.
You are in the very small minority and you know it.
One Tamriel saved the game.
I think WoW is better for you, because it seems you cannot stand things that don't follow WoW's formula, even though they are things that make the game unique and amazing.Edited by hmsdragonfly on January 17, 2017 5:42AMAldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!1 -
hmsdragonfly✭✭✭✭✭
✭So I have been gone from the game for over 33month I got frustrated with all the bugs. So I wanted to give this game a try again so what did I miss? Also what should I do or get XD
Well, to answer your question, do you like Oblivion and Skyrim? Did you leave the game because it was just a generic MMO, not a true Elder Scrolls game? If it's the case, then you should be happy, ESO at the current state is a true Elder Scrolls game.
If not, oh well, you have to be more specific about what you like. The best way is to download it and try for your own. You don't have to pay anyway.Edited by hmsdragonfly on January 17, 2017 4:38AMAldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!0 -
SaRuZ✭✭✭✭✭Eh, I don't think ESO will ever be a "true elder scrolls game." I've been a TES fan for 13 years and have to strongly disagree. It's the only MMO I can stomach past level 20 but honestly a watered down version of TES crammed into a hugely downscaled Tamriel. Not just quantity, quality.
I enjoy ESO but I enjoy it for what it is.1 -
hmsdragonfly✭✭✭✭✭
✭Eh, I don't think ESO will ever be a "true elder scrolls game." I've been a TES fan for 13 years and have to strongly disagree. It's the only MMO I can stomach past level 20 but honestly a watered down version of TES crammed into a hugely downscaled Tamriel. Not just quantity, quality.
I enjoy ESO but I enjoy it for what it is.
1) Quest are well written, many are memorable, at least no worse than Skyrim. Orsinium is one of the best questline in the franchise.
2) Everything is fully voice-acted.
3) Freedom like in recent TES games. You can go explore anywhere you want, exploration is great in this game.
4) You can do anything you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. You can save the queen and loot her entire castle, hunt daedra, pickpocket NPCs, go on murdering innocent people and having a bounty of 1 million gold on your head, hop in to Cyrodiil and help the war effort of your alliance etc. So many things for you to do, like in other TES games.
5) Deep customization (no need to explain, right?). You can be anything you want if you don't aim to be competitive in the hardest content.
6) Combat is fun and more skill-based, which is a good improvement. Sure, there are no eight schools of magic, for gameplay balance, but it played out fine.
7) Awesome for roleplaying. You can craft your own story for each of your character. Want to be a Bosmer werewolf hunter who swore to kill every werewolf he may find because his entire village was massacred by werewolves long ago? You can. Want to be a Breton Templar Knight in shinny Heavy Armour who preach about the Eight Divines and s*** all the time? You can.
ESO offers everything Skyrim and Oblivion offer, and even more.
I am willing to know why in your opinion it's not a true Elder Scrolls game.
Edited by hmsdragonfly on January 17, 2017 5:44AMAldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!3 -
SaRuZ✭✭✭✭✭To me the quests are all boring and repetetive. The zones lack any real depth and the characters, save a few, have no real purpose. The mechanics and combat are a step back. It feels like the space between Morrowind and Oblivion. The entire game is werewolves, necromancers, zombies and vampires. Oh, don't forget the insane amount of ghosts. Since when was 20% of Tamriel's population spirits that need help?
The loot is restricted, crafting is weak, areas are bland and lifeless, class customization changes with every update, sorry but magic should feel badass. Lightning bolt AoE should feel like Zeus. Not struggle to do the same damage as a dagger strike.
All in all, I get it. If this is the Tamriel you always imagined, I am so very sorry, you set the bar low, way low. However, in a game this size with this many players, It has to be bland and downsized. All of ESO's Tamriel could fit into Skyrim. Sure, cyrodiil is big, but extremely empty and honestly unrecognizable.3 -
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✭To me the quests are all boring and repetetive. The zones lack any real depth and the characters, save a few, have no real purpose. The mechanics and combat are a step back. It feels like the space between Morrowind and Oblivion. The entire game is werewolves, necromancers, zombies and vampires. Oh, don't forget the insane amount of ghosts. Since when was 20% of Tamriel's population spirits that need help?
The loot is restricted, crafting is weak, areas are bland and lifeless, class customization changes with every update, sorry but magic should feel badass. Lightning bolt AoE should feel like Zeus. Not struggle to do the same damage as a dagger strike.
All in all, I get it. If this is the Tamriel you always imagined, I am so very sorry, you set the bar low, way low. However, in a game this size with this many players, It has to be bland and downsized. All of ESO's Tamriel could fit into Skyrim. Sure, cyrodiil is big, but extremely empty and honestly unrecognizable.
So many things need to be addressed here.
1) Boring? Then quests in Skyrim must be also boring to you. The truth is, quests in ESO are interesting, right in the beginning, you stop royal assassinations commited by a racist hate group, you build alliances with island nations, you uncover Daedric plots to infiltrate the government... It's just as good and as diverse as quests in Skyrim, well maybe slightly worse that quests in Oblivion. The writing quality in this game is good, unless you are a blue lol, if you are in DC, try quests in AD and EP. EP is where all the best writing content is located. AD has a good storyline with a final message worth thinking about. Orsinium has one of the best questline in the whole franchise. Even critics agree with the fact that quests are well written.
2) "The entire game is werewolves, necromancers, zombies and vampires." can confirm you have been to a total number of 2 zones, which are Glenumbra and Stormhaven. Enemies are so diverse in this game, take a look at the Monster Hunter achievement will ya? Well you just forget Bestal Daedra, Humanoid Daedra, Flame Atronach, Storm Atronach, Frost Atronach, Flesh Atronach, Beasts (many types), Insect-like Creatures (many types), Lizard-like Creatures (many types), Plant-like Creatures (many types), Water-based Creatures (many types), Chitinous Creatures, Netches, Dwarven Constructs (many types), Giants, Goblin, Humans NPCs (which have many variations: Acid Spray Spammer, NB Gankers, Uppercut Builds, Frost Staff Back-line Tank, Fireball Pew Pewer, Worst Healer NA etc), not to mention many unique World Bosses and Dungeon Bosses. But hey, if you have gone to more than Glenumbra and Stormhaven, you would have known.
3) Zones lack real depth and characters? Maybe because Auridon looks exactly like Stonefalls, right? Well, no. Auridon has its stunning elegant Altmer's beauty, you can feel the peaceful and classy lives of the Altmer, Stonefalls and all the ashes make you feel the harsh and unforgiving lives of the Dunmer. DC has the boring generic medieval atmosphere. Hey, I'm not judging, it's all about opinions, everyone has his favorite zone. No one, except for you, has complained about the beautiful world they crafted. But hey, if you have gone to more than Glenumbra and Stormhaven, you would have known.
4) Mechanics and combat are a step back? Well maybe you enjoy being a stealth archer in Skyrim lol, which is freaking broken. Skillcap is huge in ESO, it's a fact. To do even decently compared to other people, you have to develop your own combo of 10 abilities, 2 ultimates, light attack, heavy attack, block, dodge, you dodge too much, you are dead, you block too much you are dead, you do too much dmg, you run out of resources and you are dead, you do not enough dmg, people kill you and you are dead. It has one of the highest skillcap for an MMO right now, if not the highest. It's trillion times more fun than spamming left click or clearing a whole dungeon with a broken stealth archer.
5) Loot is restricted? Yes there aren't OP unique weapons like in Skyrim, because it's an MMO, game balance is the most important thing, but the loot is rewarding, because gearsets are fun.
6) Crafting makes you feel rewarded. You have to dedicate to crafting in order to make good sets. The moment you craft your first Twice Born Star set, you will not forget it. Night Mother's Gaze? Hunding Rage? Tava's Blessing? Kragenac's Hope? Twice Born Star? Hello?
7) "sorry but magic should feel badass. Lightning bolt AoE should feel like Zeus. Not struggle to do the same damage as a dagger strike." ---> Are you serious? Stendarr be praised you don't design video games lol. It's just so wrong i am just speechless. You are level 10 or something?Aldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭All of ESO's Tamriel could fit into Skyrim??
No. That's not even slightly true. Like, not even a little.
I've been playing Elder Scrolls games since Arena and in its current state, it definitely feels like an Elder Scrolls game. With much better combat.
Sweetrolls for all!
Christophe Mottierre - Breton Templar with his own whole darn estate! Templar Houses are so 2015. EU DC
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https://tamrieltraveller.wordpress.com/
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AgentRed✭
I played for the first month when everything was really buggy and I am just going off of what my mail saidDigitalShibby wrote: »33 months? So you left during beta lol?
http://imgur.com/a/eSMvmBlackSparrow wrote: »Uuuuuh... that's a lot to go over. XD
DLCs like Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood (including a crime and punishment system), class skill revamps, reversion of the story line to begin on starter islands, One Tamriel, dozens of added gear sets, Crown Crates, upcoming housing...
Really, you're best off just creating a new character and starting over. A lot of the broad strokes are the same, but details have fluctuated wildly.
(And there are still occasionally bugs. But yeah, it's waaaay better in that department than it was at launch. )
Sound kind of cool with all the new stuff. Should I just get those 2 dlc or should I collect them all XD. But I will take that into consideration. Also will I have to buy the Tamriel Unlimited or will the Imperial Edition be good enough? I have that one right now.If you are into PvE, it's a great patch.
If you are into PvP, you might as well just wait for the
next patch.
Whats coming with PVP I love some action?hmsdragonfly wrote: »So I have been gone from the game for over 33month I got frustrated with all the bugs. So I wanted to give this game a try again so what did I miss? Also what should I do or get XD
Well, to answer your question, do you like Oblivion and Skyrim? Did you leave the game because it was just a generic MMO, not a true Elder Scrolls game? If it's the case, then you should be happy, ESO at the current state is a true Elder Scrolls game.
If not, oh well, you have to be more specific about what you like. The best way is to download it and try for your own. You don't have to pay anyway.
There were a lot of game breaking buggies that weren't patched out and some quest you had to spend over 7hrs on before it would give you credit so it was a huge turn off.hmsdragonfly wrote: »Eh, I don't think ESO will ever be a "true elder scrolls game." I've been a TES fan for 13 years and have to strongly disagree. It's the only MMO I can stomach past level 20 but honestly a watered down version of TES crammed into a hugely downscaled Tamriel. Not just quantity, quality.
I enjoy ESO but I enjoy it for what it is.
1) Quest are well written, many are memorable, at least no worse than Skyrim. Orsinium is one of the best questline in the franchise.
2) Everything is fully voice-acted.
3) Freedom like in recent TES games. You can go explore anywhere you want, exploration is great in this game.
4) You can do anything you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. You can save the queen and loot her entire castle, hunt daedra, pickpocket NPCs, go on murdering innocent people and having a bounty of 1 million gold on your head, hop in to Cyrodiil and help the war effort of your alliance etc. So many things for you to do, like in other TES games.
5) Deep customization (no need to explain, right?). You can be anything you want if you don't aim to be competitive in the hardest content.
6) Combat is fun and more skill-based, which is a good improvement. Sure, there are no eight schools of magic, for gameplay balance, but it played out fine.
7) Awesome for roleplaying. You can craft your own story for each of your character. Want to be a Bosmer werewolf hunter who swore to kill every werewolf he may find because his entire village was massacred by werewolves long ago? You can. Want to be a Breton Templar Knight in shinny Heavy Armour who preach about the Eight Divines and s*** all the time? You can.
ESO offers everything Skyrim and Oblivion offer, and even more.
I am willing to know why in your opinion it's not a true Elder Scrolls game.
Thanks for the info!
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✭BlackSparrow wrote: »Uuuuuh... that's a lot to go over. XD
DLCs like Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood (including a crime and punishment system), class skill revamps, reversion of the story line to begin on starter islands, One Tamriel, dozens of added gear sets, Crown Crates, upcoming housing...
Really, you're best off just creating a new character and starting over. A lot of the broad strokes are the same, but details have fluctuated wildly.
(And there are still occasionally bugs. But yeah, it's waaaay better in that department than it was at launch. )
Sound kind of cool with all the new stuff. Should I just get those 2 dlc or should I collect them all XD. But I will take that into consideration. Also will I have to buy the Tamriel Unlimited or will the Imperial Edition be good enough? I have that one right now.
If you have ever bought the game in any form (e.g., the Imperial Edition), you won't need to buy it again, and playing is free after that point. Heck, I'm still working from my beta launcher. Just boot up the game launcher and go have lunch or something while it updates (it could take a while, so overnight may be the least painful time).
I'd wait on the DLC until you know whether you like the game. You'll need to buy any DLC with real money, after all. I enjpy stealth play, so DB and TG are the two I play most often, but the others are generally pretty good, too.Living vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
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Sound kind of cool with all the new stuff. Should I just get those 2 dlc or should I collect them all XD. But I will take that into consideration. Also will I have to buy the Tamriel Unlimited or will the Imperial Edition be good enough? I have that one right now.
Well if you already have bought the game in 2014, you don't need to buy it again. Just download, install, and play.Aldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!0 -
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✭✭✭✭Honestly if you didnt like the game before i doubt you will like it now. Sure things have changed, but they are more specific things.
For example...
If you didnt like the way game phased people in your group out, that has been greatly reduced.
If you didnt like that you couldnt play with people in other factions that has changed.
If you didnt like the long grind to vr on all your characters that was changed.
If you didnt like the responsive lag free feel of pvp that was changed.
And so on. You get the idea. The story and play of the game hasnt changed. So if you didnt like it before i dont see why you would like it now. But i guess you already have the game so dip your toe in for free and try it again.
Editz wow i cant speel.Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on January 17, 2017 7:13PM0 -
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✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »And so on. You get the idea. The story and play of the game hasnt changed. So if you didnt like it before i dont see why you would like it now. But i guess you already have the game so dip your toe in for free and try it again.
Editz wow i cant speel.
I think the story and the gameplay have never been an issue. Even in 2014, all complaints are about the fact that it felt like a generic MMO with the outdated leveling system, you don't have many things to do like in other TES games (stealing stuffs, killing innocents etc), it lacked important content such as Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, right at the start you couldn't go anywhere you want because of level restriction (technically you could, but a mudcrab in the next zone would murder you in cold blood although you defeated armies of powerful lich in the last zone), you couldn't play with friends in other alliances etc
All of them were fixed and at the moment the game plays very similar to recent TES games.
As someone linked in another thread, this article is worth reading
http://www.polygon.com/features/2016/10/14/13285014/elder-scrolls-online-one-tamriel-skyrim-mmoEdited by hmsdragonfly on January 18, 2017 2:36AMAldmeri Dominion Loyalist. For the Queen!0 -
PhxOldGamer68✭✭✭✭For the players who hate this game and still respond on this forum perplexes me.
Everyone is different on what they like about a game. I'm still playing since PS4 launch because I still find playing PVE and PVP entertaining.
I loved Fallout 3 and New Vegas, but just can't get into Fallout 4. Played Borderlands and Borderlands 2 for over a year. Played Destiny for hours everyday and weekends until I got burnt out of the repetitive dailies to upgrade new gear and armor in just 3 months.
And to this day, I'm still learning skill combos, AoE, proc sets, champion point allocation, DPS, Tank, Healer, DPS/Tank/Healer builds. So much to learn.
I play about 2-3 hours at night after the kids settle into their own things.PSN NA/EU: DesertDweller99
PC NA: KaktusKing0
