BiS Templar DPS set

Massive_Stain

Any ideas? I know they are taking a huge nerf, but I still have two Templars. One is a healer and the other is DPS. Any ideas on where I should use my time to farm?

lillybit

I love Soulshine on my Magplar. I've got it paired with Spinners but I think it's more commonly Lich

EldritchPenguin

For the DPS, I'd go with Burning Spellweave. It procs really often, even when you're only using 2 fire spells. Also, the Burning effect from BSW boosts the damage of Fire Blockade.

BSW is a really solid set.

stevepdodson_ESO888

lillybit wrote: »

I love Soulshine on my Magplar. I've got it paired with Spinners but I think it's more commonly Lich

with U13 Templars can benefit from the change to Radiant Aura (or you could use Elemental Drain as it is also getting a change) if you want to keep Repentance, so you might not need to rely on Lich set anymore for magicka sustain

BSW does seem to proc a lot on my magTemp, so it's pairing it with another effective set plus Grothdar/Skoria if you are going DW for 5/5/2

but the changes to Destro Staff passives might make all magicka classes got Fire/Lightning and put their single target and AoE skills on the appropriate bar to benefit from the passive (meaning no 5/5/2)

Siliziumdioxid

I hope it is not: 2x Grothdarr, 5x Burning Spellweave, 3x Moondancer, Moondancer Lightning staff + Fire vma staff (Blockade on this bar for swap cancel)...
My apprehension is that this will be the case for the next patch.
Not that i don't like staves but Burning Spellweave is no set i like.

Soulshine is not for PvE

Jaronking

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

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lillybit wrote: »

I love Soulshine on my Magplar. I've got it paired with Spinners but I think it's more commonly Lich

with U13 Templars can benefit from the change to Radiant Aura (or you could use Elemental Drain as it is also getting a change) if you want to keep Repentance, so you might not need to rely on Lich set anymore for magicka sustain

BSW does seem to proc a lot on my magTemp, so it's pairing it with another effective set plus Grothdar/Skoria if you are going DW for 5/5/2

but the changes to Destro Staff passives might make all magicka classes got Fire/Lightning and put their single target and AoE skills on the appropriate bar to benefit from the passive (meaning no 5/5/2)

Someone on PTS did the math you will still do more damage going DW for sweeps,radiant,Vamp bane,shards.SO 5-5-2 is still going to be BIS for magplar.

Gear:
5 Burning Spell Weave,3 Aether,2 Willpower swords with a VMA flame staff is still going be BIS.

MLGProPlayer

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

I hope it is not: 2x Grothdarr, 5x Burning Spellweave, 3x Moondancer, Moondancer Lightning staff + Fire vma staff (Blockade on this bar for swap cancel)...
My apprehension is that this will be the case for the next patch.
Not that i don't like staves but Burning Spellweave is no set i like.

This is 100% going to be BiS next patch. Only question is whether to go lightning staff or DW. BSW is simply going to be head and shoulders above any other set for mages following all the crit changes.

EldritchPenguin

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

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Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

I hope it is not: 2x Grothdarr, 5x Burning Spellweave, 3x Moondancer, Moondancer Lightning staff + Fire vma staff (Blockade on this bar for swap cancel)...
My apprehension is that this will be the case for the next patch.
Not that i don't like staves but Burning Spellweave is no set i like.

This is 100% going to be BiS next patch. Only question is whether to go lightning staff or DW. BSW is simply going to be head and shoulders above any other set for mages following all the crit changes.

Lightning staff VS Dual Wield isn't even much of a question. Lightning staff provides 8% damage bonus on AoE attacks only. Dual Wield provides 5% damage bonus to everything on top of providing an extra set piece, which can more than make up the difference.

Not to mention that you can use both a Weapon Damage and Crusher Enchant simultaneously.

Siliziumdioxid

EldritchPenguin wrote: »

Lightning staff VS Dual Wield isn't even much of a question.

I'm not that sure. Medium weaving lightning attacks might be an option, since it does decent cleave Damage.

Destruent

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stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

I love Soulshine on my Magplar. I've got it paired with Spinners but I think it's more commonly Lich

with U13 Templars can benefit from the change to Radiant Aura (or you could use Elemental Drain as it is also getting a change) if you want to keep Repentance, so you might not need to rely on Lich set anymore for magicka sustain

BSW does seem to proc a lot on my magTemp, so it's pairing it with another effective set plus Grothdar/Skoria if you are going DW for 5/5/2

but the changes to Destro Staff passives might make all magicka classes got Fire/Lightning and put their single target and AoE skills on the appropriate bar to benefit from the passive (meaning no 5/5/2)

Someone on PTS did the math you will still do more damage going DW for sweeps,radiant,Vamp bane,shards.SO 5-5-2 is still going to be BIS for magplar.

Gear:
5 Burning Spell Weave,3 Aether,2 Willpower swords with a VMA flame staff is still going be BIS.

no, 5x moondancer are stronger than 3x aether + 2 willpower.

NoFlash

I heard it's the same sets but slot 2 Kena instead of grothdarr

Massive_Stain

Jaronking wrote: »

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stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

I love Soulshine on my Magplar. I've got it paired with Spinners but I think it's more commonly Lich

with U13 Templars can benefit from the change to Radiant Aura (or you could use Elemental Drain as it is also getting a change) if you want to keep Repentance, so you might not need to rely on Lich set anymore for magicka sustain

BSW does seem to proc a lot on my magTemp, so it's pairing it with another effective set plus Grothdar/Skoria if you are going DW for 5/5/2

but the changes to Destro Staff passives might make all magicka classes got Fire/Lightning and put their single target and AoE skills on the appropriate bar to benefit from the passive (meaning no 5/5/2)

Someone on PTS did the math you will still do more damage going DW for sweeps,radiant,Vamp bane,shards.SO 5-5-2 is still going to be BIS for magplar.

Gear:
5 Burning Spell Weave,3 Aether,2 Willpower swords with a VMA flame staff is still going be BIS.

Nice. Why isn't Soulshine for PVE? Looks like a decent set up for beamplars.

Mojmir

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Jaronking wrote: »

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

I love Soulshine on my Magplar. I've got it paired with Spinners but I think it's more commonly Lich

with U13 Templars can benefit from the change to Radiant Aura (or you could use Elemental Drain as it is also getting a change) if you want to keep Repentance, so you might not need to rely on Lich set anymore for magicka sustain

BSW does seem to proc a lot on my magTemp, so it's pairing it with another effective set plus Grothdar/Skoria if you are going DW for 5/5/2

but the changes to Destro Staff passives might make all magicka classes got Fire/Lightning and put their single target and AoE skills on the appropriate bar to benefit from the passive (meaning no 5/5/2)

Someone on PTS did the math you will still do more damage going DW for sweeps,radiant,Vamp bane,shards.SO 5-5-2 is still going to be BIS for magplar.

Gear:
5 Burning Spell Weave,3 Aether,2 Willpower swords with a VMA flame staff is still going be BIS.

Nice. Why isn't Soulshine for PVE? Looks like a decent set up for beamplars.

It is,its just not the best

Cpt_Teemo

I got my 2 other alts to 50 just during the christmas event and my temps just using 5 sorrow, 4 julianos atm

BlackEar

I agree with what others have said. 2x grothdarr heavy/medium. 5x burning spellweave. 3x moondancer jewelry 2x dual wield sword (2x sharpened - or 1 sharpened 1 precise if perfect team), 1 x inferno sharpened vma staff on backbar.

Altmer or Dunmer for race. Argueably Dunmer is best.

Jaronking

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Jaronking wrote: »

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

I love Soulshine on my Magplar. I've got it paired with Spinners but I think it's more commonly Lich

with U13 Templars can benefit from the change to Radiant Aura (or you could use Elemental Drain as it is also getting a change) if you want to keep Repentance, so you might not need to rely on Lich set anymore for magicka sustain

BSW does seem to proc a lot on my magTemp, so it's pairing it with another effective set plus Grothdar/Skoria if you are going DW for 5/5/2

but the changes to Destro Staff passives might make all magicka classes got Fire/Lightning and put their single target and AoE skills on the appropriate bar to benefit from the passive (meaning no 5/5/2)

Someone on PTS did the math you will still do more damage going DW for sweeps,radiant,Vamp bane,shards.SO 5-5-2 is still going to be BIS for magplar.

Gear:
5 Burning Spell Weave,3 Aether,2 Willpower swords with a VMA flame staff is still going be BIS.

no, 5x moondancer are stronger than 3x aether + 2 willpower.

Yes 5 moondancer is way stronger but harder to get so I put 3 aether 2 willpower because RNG in this game is horrible .

Nifty2g

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Any ideas? I know they are taking a huge nerf, but I still have two Templars. One is a healer and the other is DPS. Any ideas on where I should use my time to farm?

burning spell weave
moondancer
grothdarr

swapping from twice born star to burning spell weave is the only change this patch is what we are currently thinking.

Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

I hope it is not: 2x Grothdarr, 5x Burning Spellweave, 3x Moondancer, Moondancer Lightning staff + Fire vma staff (Blockade on this bar for swap cancel)...
My apprehension is that this will be the case for the next patch.
Not that i don't like staves but Burning Spellweave is no set i like.

Soulshine is not for PvE

Lightning staff = 8% aoe damage
First staff = 8% single target
Swords = 5% overall damage + another 5pc

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Here is the link to the Templar testing thread that shows swords are still ahead-

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3662159/#Comment_3662159

akl77

Even with BIS gears, the Templar dps still lacks hugely to other classes, every Templar dps I met sucks bad.

Nifty2g

akl77 wrote: »

Even with BIS gears, the Templar dps still lacks hugely to other classes, every Templar dps I met sucks bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rht3Nzbx1ls

magplar is currently top dps

iqoologiceb17_ESO

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Siliziumdioxid wrote: »

I hope it is not: 2x Grothdarr, 5x Burning Spellweave, 3x Moondancer, Moondancer Lightning staff + Fire vma staff (Blockade on this bar for swap cancel)...
My apprehension is that this will be the case for the next patch.
Not that i don't like staves but Burning Spellweave is no set i like.

This is 100% going to be BiS next patch. Only question is whether to go lightning staff or DW. BSW is simply going to be head and shoulders above any other set for mages following all the crit changes.

A can agree with this (go DW!!!).

I now have 5 Mother's Sorrow + 2 Grothdarr (Helm heavy, Sholders medium), 3x Infallible Aether (neck + 2x rings), 2x Willpower Swords and Maelstrom Inferno Staff

When update hits I will swap Mother's Sorrow for Spellweave.

Dunno about Moondancer maybe better for Mag Sorc. I play my Mag Sorc with Moondancer Lighting Staff and it is awesome

iqoologiceb17_ESO

akl77 wrote: »

Even with BIS gears, the Templar dps still lacks hugely to other classes, every Templar dps I met sucks bad.

Well this is not true
Those people probably didn't have rotation and/or good skill on the bars

I can go as high as 48k on my Mag Templar
Did all Veteran Trials and DLC Dungs on hard mode.
The lowest dps I got is 25k if there is no buffs and I get my rotation wrong.

Mag Templars are in a good place right now maybe even with Jesus nerf (nerf on initial dmg but ticks will do the same dmg?).
Mag sorcs will be in better place in next patch - OP AF

akl77

iqoologiceb17_ESO wrote: »

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akl77 wrote: »

Even with BIS gears, the Templar dps still lacks hugely to other classes, every Templar dps I met sucks bad.

Well this is not true
Those people probably didn't have rotation and/or good skill on the bars

I can go as high as 48k on my Mag Templar
Did all Veteran Trials and DLC Dungs on hard mode.
The lowest dps I got is 25k if there is no buffs and I get my rotation wrong.

Mag Templars are in a good place right now maybe even with Jesus nerf (nerf on initial dmg but ticks will do the same dmg?).
Mag sorcs will be in better place in next patch - OP AF

I agree magplar can have some good dps output, but it's only average to other bis gear classes, I've constantly met insane sorcerer and Dk dps, just with a few hit and the boss dies. Never met a Templar that can do that, it's dps always drags the boss on.

Destruent

akl77 wrote: »

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iqoologiceb17_ESO wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

Even with BIS gears, the Templar dps still lacks hugely to other classes, every Templar dps I met sucks bad.

Well this is not true
Those people probably didn't have rotation and/or good skill on the bars

I can go as high as 48k on my Mag Templar
Did all Veteran Trials and DLC Dungs on hard mode.
The lowest dps I got is 25k if there is no buffs and I get my rotation wrong.

Mag Templars are in a good place right now maybe even with Jesus nerf (nerf on initial dmg but ticks will do the same dmg?).
Mag sorcs will be in better place in next patch - OP AF

I agree magplar can have some good dps output, but it's only average to other bis gear classes, I've constantly met insane sorcerer and Dk dps, just with a few hit and the boss dies. Never met a Templar that can do that, it's dps always drags the boss on.

The only magicka build lacking DPS is the magicka-NB, all other classes are more or less equal and excel in different fights.