About ferocious leap next patch?

sneakymitchell

Since it will do flame damage will it scale off max stat or just magic stat and spell damage stat. Like the DK standard scales off which the highest but I haven't seen that much of it even on stam build on PTS. I'm on Xbox so I can't tell if it will or not. And also players say that leap won't be useful and I know leap can't be cc while using it and dodge but players forget in ardent flame passive of world in ruin which increase ur aoe flame and poison by 6% which is nice for the leap.

Oakmontowls_ESO

All ultimates scale off of the highest stat, the only reason people don't use things like take flight on a magika build is that the physical damage it does isn't boosted by the cp build that magika use.

sneakymitchell

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

All ultimates scale off of the highest stat, the only reason people don't use things like take flight on a magika build is that the physical damage it does isn't boosted by the cp build that magika use.

Ah I see. But ain't it some ultimates are different and scale off of its other stat like flame scale with magic. Or is that the Morphs of the ultimate will depend on max stat?

geonsocal

it was funny, someone leaped on me in pvp yesterday...it startled me more than it did any kind of damage...

I haven't seen any one use dragon leap in months and it caught me off guard, I don't remember if my character fell down, but, I did move back a little myself

the move itself looks pretty impressive, even though it doesn't do much damage...

sneakymitchell

geonsocal wrote: »

it was funny, someone leaped on me in pvp yesterday...it startled me more than it did any kind of damage...

I haven't seen any one use dragon leap in months and it caught me off guard, I don't remember if my character fell down, but, I didn't moved back a little myself

the move itself looks pretty impressive, even though it doesn't do much damage...

Some players use take flight as a burst range gap closer aoe even in a ball group. They will max out everything and just sit in the back and just light attack with a bow and then leap in when the group pushes and probably spam a steel tornado or reverse slice.

Rohamad_Ali

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

sneakymitchell

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

I think about it can proc the fire dot elemental damage. And also vampire will get hit with this leap little harder. But it doesn't matter if u have 100 points in elemental defender in the cp tree the lady.

DRXHarbinger

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

I think about it can proc the fire dot elemental damage. And also vampire will get hit with this leap little harder. But it doesn't matter if u have 100 points in elemental defender in the cp tree the lady.

It will. Engulfing flames for 10% more flame power, 100 Ele expert ( 25%)and dunmer (7%) makes this bad boy now hit for 42% more damage, with a vamp at stage 4 this will hurt now. Light attack with prismatic glyph will fry you foul scum.

Curious though if it will scale with destro flame or lit passives. ...

Rohamad_Ali

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

I think about it can proc the fire dot elemental damage. And also vampire will get hit with this leap little harder. But it doesn't matter if u have 100 points in elemental defender in the cp tree the lady.

It will. Engulfing flames for 10% more flame power, 100 Ele expert ( 25%)and dunmer (7%) makes this bad boy now hit for 42% more damage, with a vamp at stage 4 this will hurt now. Light attack with prismatic glyph will fry you foul scum.

Curious though if it will scale with destro flame or lit passives. ...

This ^ and even worse , the DK will look cool doing a fiery flying stomp on my poor vampire Khajiit .

sneakymitchell

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

I think about it can proc the fire dot elemental damage. And also vampire will get hit with this leap little harder. But it doesn't matter if u have 100 points in elemental defender in the cp tree the lady.

It will. Engulfing flames for 10% more flame power, 100 Ele expert ( 25%)and dunmer (7%) makes this bad boy now hit for 42% more damage, with a vamp at stage 4 this will hurt now. Light attack with prismatic glyph will fry you foul scum.

Curious though if it will scale with destro flame or lit passives. ...

Don't forget the world in ruin passive every one forgets about that.

DRXHarbinger

sneakymitchell wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

I think about it can proc the fire dot elemental damage. And also vampire will get hit with this leap little harder. But it doesn't matter if u have 100 points in elemental defender in the cp tree the lady.

It will. Engulfing flames for 10% more flame power, 100 Ele expert ( 25%)and dunmer (7%) makes this bad boy now hit for 42% more damage, with a vamp at stage 4 this will hurt now. Light attack with prismatic glyph will fry you foul scum.

Curious though if it will scale with destro flame or lit passives. ...

Don't forget the world in ruin passive every one forgets about that.

That's only dots though isn't it? Won't affect leap will it?

leepalmer95

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

I think about it can proc the fire dot elemental damage. And also vampire will get hit with this leap little harder. But it doesn't matter if u have 100 points in elemental defender in the cp tree the lady.

It will. Engulfing flames for 10% more flame power, 100 Ele expert ( 25%)and dunmer (7%) makes this bad boy now hit for 42% more damage, with a vamp at stage 4 this will hurt now. Light attack with prismatic glyph will fry you foul scum.

Curious though if it will scale with destro flame or lit passives. ...

Don't forget the world in ruin passive every one forgets about that.

That's only dots though isn't it? Won't affect leap will it?

It increases all aoe fire and poison dmg skill by 6%

So thats 48% extra dmg.

DRXHarbinger

leepalmer95 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's going to be better then what it was when 13 hits .

I think about it can proc the fire dot elemental damage. And also vampire will get hit with this leap little harder. But it doesn't matter if u have 100 points in elemental defender in the cp tree the lady.

It will. Engulfing flames for 10% more flame power, 100 Ele expert ( 25%)and dunmer (7%) makes this bad boy now hit for 42% more damage, with a vamp at stage 4 this will hurt now. Light attack with prismatic glyph will fry you foul scum.

Curious though if it will scale with destro flame or lit passives. ...

Don't forget the world in ruin passive every one forgets about that.

That's only dots though isn't it? Won't affect leap will it?

It increases all aoe fire and poison dmg skill by 6%

So thats 48% extra dmg.

Niiiiiiice. So far this looking to be around a 16-17k tool tip. Not bad at all. That's meteor impact.

AhPook_Is_Here

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Since it will do flame damage will it scale off max stat or just magic stat and spell damage stat. Like the DK standard scales off which the highest but I haven't seen that much of it even on stam build on PTS. I'm on Xbox so I can't tell if it will or not. And also players say that leap won't be useful and I know leap can't be cc while using it and dodge but players forget in ardent flame passive of world in ruin which increase ur aoe flame and poison by 6% which is nice for the leap.

There might be a dunmer niche for it, imo just use gap closer+dawn breaker.

Panth141

Oh, I'ma be leaping next patch for sure

Riggsy

geonsocal wrote: »

it was funny, someone leaped on me in pvp yesterday...it startled me more than it did any kind of damage...

I haven't seen any one use dragon leap in months and it caught me off guard, I don't remember if my character fell down, but, I did move back a little myself

the move itself looks pretty impressive, even though it doesn't do much damage...

I use leap as my oh %$# ult, its cheap and great for when I need to get away from a mob of people (brief shield and stun). The big issue with it has always been its failure to launch (bugged) or ability to get stunned while executing - but according to the devs those will be fixed in this next patch. I expect to see more use from it after by other dks.

raasdal

Still gonna be stuck in permaroot...

leepalmer95

raasdal wrote: »

Still gonna be stuck in permaroot...

Roots won't effect leap

Oakmontowls_ESO

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

All ultimates scale off of the highest stat, the only reason people don't use things like take flight on a magika build is that the physical damage it does isn't boosted by the cp build that magika use.

Ah I see. But ain't it some ultimates are different and scale off of its other stat like flame scale with magic. Or is that the Morphs of the ultimate will depend on max stat?

Nope ultimates in general all scale off of the highest stat. It's just the damage gets boosted even more by the champion system so if you notice differences in the numbers that is probably the reason.

sneakymitchell

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

All ultimates scale off of the highest stat, the only reason people don't use things like take flight on a magika build is that the physical damage it does isn't boosted by the cp build that magika use.

Ah I see. But ain't it some ultimates are different and scale off of its other stat like flame scale with magic. Or is that the Morphs of the ultimate will depend on max stat?

Nope ultimates in general all scale off of the highest stat. It's just the damage gets boosted even more by the champion system so if you notice differences in the numbers that is probably the reason.

I kind of forgot about that cause the way cp is now a days. Like hybrid builds can't be a thing cause they will lack damage in PvE. PVP it just depends on ur set up.

Mojmir

It won't replace destro ultimate for sure,and I'm more inclined to keep meteor on single bar.

Savos_Saren

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »

All ultimates scale off of the highest stat, the only reason people don't use things like take flight on a magika build is that the physical damage it does isn't boosted by the cp build that magika use.

Ah I see. But ain't it some ultimates are different and scale off of its other stat like flame scale with magic. Or is that the Morphs of the ultimate will depend on max stat?

Nope ultimates in general all scale off of the highest stat. It's just the damage gets boosted even more by the champion system so if you notice differences in the numbers that is probably the reason.

I kind of forgot about that cause the way cp is now a days. Like hybrid builds can't be a thing cause they will lack damage in PvE. PVP it just depends on ur set up.

We can only hope that they implement some sort of system that separates damage done from resource pools...

Yolokin_Swagonborn

leepalmer95 wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

Still gonna be stuck in permaroot...

Roots won't effect leap

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
Just wanted to thank everyone for all the feedback in this thread. We have some updates/changes coming for the next PTS build that we’d like to share:

• Obsidian Shard – Doubled the speed of the projectile.
• Fiery Grip (and morphs) – This ability is no longer dodgeable. Also reduced the duration of the expedition buff by 2 seconds. (6s instead of 8s) Note: the damage portion of this ability can still be blocked.
• Dragon Leap (and morphs) – This ability is no longer dodgeable. (it is an AOE after all). In addition we fixed an issue where the CC immunity while leaping was not being added correctly – you are now immune to all forms of CC, including roots while leaping. Note – players can still out range this ability while the DK is in the air if the DK leaps from max range and the player immediately runs away.

As a note, we are still evaluating the changes to Coagulating Blood. We do hear your feedback on this ability and will continue to monitor it closely on PTS.

Just look at that bolded part. That is the best part of the entire changelog. Leap was so hard to actually get to fire when you were at low health or had a ton of people on you. If you were rooted, it just wouldn't fire at all.

Sharee

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

Still gonna be stuck in permaroot...

Roots won't effect leap

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
Just wanted to thank everyone for all the feedback in this thread. We have some updates/changes coming for the next PTS build that we’d like to share:

• Obsidian Shard – Doubled the speed of the projectile.
• Fiery Grip (and morphs) – This ability is no longer dodgeable. Also reduced the duration of the expedition buff by 2 seconds. (6s instead of 8s) Note: the damage portion of this ability can still be blocked.
• Dragon Leap (and morphs) – This ability is no longer dodgeable. (it is an AOE after all). In addition we fixed an issue where the CC immunity while leaping was not being added correctly – you are now immune to all forms of CC, including roots while leaping. Note – players can still out range this ability while the DK is in the air if the DK leaps from max range and the player immediately runs away.

As a note, we are still evaluating the changes to Coagulating Blood. We do hear your feedback on this ability and will continue to monitor it closely on PTS.

Just look at that bolded part. That is the best part of the entire changelog. Leap was so hard to actually get to fire when you were at low health or had a ton of people on you. If you were rooted, it just wouldn't fire at all.

Did someone test it on PTS? Because the wording "immune while leaping" could be interpreted as "you are immune to roots while already in-flight", not necessarily as "you can now initiate the flight while rooted"

sneakymitchell

Sharee wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

Still gonna be stuck in permaroot...

Roots won't effect leap

ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »
Just wanted to thank everyone for all the feedback in this thread. We have some updates/changes coming for the next PTS build that we’d like to share:

• Obsidian Shard – Doubled the speed of the projectile.
• Fiery Grip (and morphs) – This ability is no longer dodgeable. Also reduced the duration of the expedition buff by 2 seconds. (6s instead of 8s) Note: the damage portion of this ability can still be blocked.
• Dragon Leap (and morphs) – This ability is no longer dodgeable. (it is an AOE after all). In addition we fixed an issue where the CC immunity while leaping was not being added correctly – you are now immune to all forms of CC, including roots while leaping. Note – players can still out range this ability while the DK is in the air if the DK leaps from max range and the player immediately runs away.

As a note, we are still evaluating the changes to Coagulating Blood. We do hear your feedback on this ability and will continue to monitor it closely on PTS.

Just look at that bolded part. That is the best part of the entire changelog. Leap was so hard to actually get to fire when you were at low health or had a ton of people on you. If you were rooted, it just wouldn't fire at all.

Did someone test it on PTS? Because the wording "immune while leaping" could be interpreted as "you are immune to roots while already in-flight", not necessarily as "you can now initiate the flight while rooted"

Wait till monday which is tomorrow zos will update the pts on that day unless their is problems.