Skyreach grind explained [2+ millions/hour]

EnviousStruggle

grind for well geared/well setuped heroes
try to build best party
ie stam sorc+stamplar is one of the best imo

regular time of each run if everything perfect - 5 min
each run with ONLY non-myth ambrosia and full training gear and ESO+ getting me 170-200k exp
and best thing its instanced and free for all - not DLC

all other info at the picture i made
if you have any other questions feel free to ask

EnviousStruggle

if you have any tips i will add them

laksikus

2kk with or without en lightment?

EnviousStruggle

laksikus wrote: »

2kk with or without en lightment?

@laksikus without ofc

laksikus

Pretty good then^^

VoidBlue

What do the different colors mean and the large colored dots?

EnviousStruggle

different path to each pull of mobs

EnviousStruggle

and best thing its instanced and free for all - not DLC

Carbonised

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

Preyfar

When you post grind spots remember: Molag Gina is always watching. Always.

EnviousStruggle

Carbonised wrote: »

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

lol @Carbonised
we talking about CP grind here try to level up it on quests lol when all your quests done before
you will not survive here if you are less level than cp100-160

zyk

Carbonised wrote: »

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

I do not believe there is enough content to reach CP561 without repetition. For players with competitive raids or PVP in mind, maxing CP is extremely important.

This is especially true for PVP-focused players who return from breaks or play intermittently and want to achieve competitive parity ASAP. Most of the PVP players I know do not enjoy PVE at all.

Carbonised

zyk wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

I do not believe there is enough content to reach CP561 without repetition. For players with competitive raids or PVP in mind, maxing CP is extremely important.

This is especially true for PVP-focused players who return from breaks or play intermittently and want to achieve competitive parity ASAP. Most of the PVP players I know do not enjoy PVE at all.

That's a real pity. And I suppose posts like this one serve as a reminder to me exactly how narrow a view some people have of this game, which never ceases to surprise me.

By all means, it's a free game, you're allowed to play only 2 % of the content and replay that 2 % till your eyes bleed if that's your thing, it just seems rather shallow to me.

As for content, the game has plenty of content. Before 1 Tam, my character got from level 1 to CP 160 by doing the 3 alliance zones, all quests, no grinding at all. Moving on from there, I did some daily dungeon pledges and DLC zones, and hit the old CP cap rather quickly. No ambrosia, no training equipment, no nothing.
So the content is definitely there, but you are, however, free to ignore it and simply grind Skyreach for days on end.

Playing a game is not always about reaching the goal, the ceiling or the max - it is in many ways also about enjoying the process and the road that takes you to the destination. Hence my small quib about intrinsic motivation (spontaneous, originating from the individual), and entrinsic motivation (calculated, originating externally, goal oriented).

EnviousStruggle

@Carbonised you again ignoring important point

you CANT reach cp cap on quests
PVP IS NOT 2% of content

do not avoid it!

zyk

Carbonised wrote: »

That's a real pity. And I suppose posts like this one serve as a reminder to me exactly how narrow a view some people have of this game, which never ceases to surprise me.

I think it is you who has the narrow view here. I think many of us have motivations that are far more nuanced than you can recognize from your chair.

DangerMan

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

EnviousStruggle

DangerMan wrote: »

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

its instanced, man

Royaji

DangerMan wrote: »

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

Skyreach is instanced, so that's an exception. But ZOS might nerf it if too many people will start farming there.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

DangerMan wrote: »

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

Same as the 2nd rule?

All The Best

Lashiing

rip grindspot
thanks alot @EnviousStruggle
not even the best routes lol

DaveMoeDee

EnviousStruggle wrote: »

DangerMan wrote: »

First rule of Grind Spots is?........

its instanced, man

I believe they have nerfed other instanced grind spots before

AlnilamE

I just run the whole dungeon with a group. It's more fun that way.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Grind will now be nerfed in 3...2...

Dawnblade

I have to admit, I've been torn between just having fun playing the game and letting CP come as it comes (and while doing quests, even high XP dailies - CP seems to come slowly) and doing something like this to gain as much CP as possible in as short a time period as possible (because of how CP provides actual stats and combat benefits - thus having lower CP means having weaker characters).

IMO CP is just a bad system, and made worse by letting grinding be the most efficient means of gaining XP for CP, by far.

If I were running the game - I'd probably remove CP, and baring that, change it so the actual stat / power difference between low and high CP is minimal with more non-combat benefits, as well as re-balance XP by nerfing mob XP significantly and boosting quest / daily XP, so the most efficient means of gaining CP would be through playing the game, not AOE'ing zombies / skeletons / wolves / etc.

I just don't get why anyone would want a system that promotes grinding to gain stats to make an overpowered character compared to the majority of the game's tuning over one that rewards playing the game while minimizing power creep, retaining a bit of challenge, and doesn't allow a large power gap to grow between players.

EnviousStruggle

nah they will not nerf it

Destyran

Ehy would you post this online? Its people like you who ruin things for everyone.

zuto40

Carbonised wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

Yes, why should it actually be fun and enjoyable to play an MMO and level up your character, when it can instead be a chore that needs to be planned out in order to facilitate the best possible outcome with the least amount of time and effort.

A perfect example of what happens when one subscribes entirely to an extrinsic motivational source

I do not believe there is enough content to reach CP561 without repetition. For players with competitive raids or PVP in mind, maxing CP is extremely important.

This is especially true for PVP-focused players who return from breaks or play intermittently and want to achieve competitive parity ASAP. Most of the PVP players I know do not enjoy PVE at all.

That's a real pity. And I suppose posts like this one serve as a reminder to me exactly how narrow a view some people have of this game, which never ceases to surprise me.

By all means, it's a free game, you're allowed to play only 2 % of the content and replay that 2 % till your eyes bleed if that's your thing, it just seems rather shallow to me.

As for content, the game has plenty of content. Before 1 Tam, my character got from level 1 to CP 160 by doing the 3 alliance zones, all quests, no grinding at all. Moving on from there, I did some daily dungeon pledges and DLC zones, and hit the old CP cap rather quickly. No ambrosia, no training equipment, no nothing.
So the content is definitely there, but you are, however, free to ignore it and simply grind Skyreach for days on end.

Playing a game is not always about reaching the goal, the ceiling or the max - it is in many ways also about enjoying the process and the road that takes you to the destination. Hence my small quib about intrinsic motivation (spontaneous, originating from the individual), and entrinsic motivation (calculated, originating externally, goal oriented).

ive done everything in pve except a few vet trials, pvp however despite being in the .001% of players in AvA ranks i am only a 3rd of the way to "completing" pvp, pvp=99.9% of content

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Where is this? So many places in craglorn?

EnviousStruggle

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Where is this? So many places in craglorn?

google it
Skyreach Catacombs

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

I just soloed pinnacle and hold looking for it lol.

BlackEar

zyk wrote: »

Carbonised wrote: »

That's a real pity. And I suppose posts like this one serve as a reminder to me exactly how narrow a view some people have of this game, which never ceases to surprise me.

I think it is you who has the narrow view here. I think many of us have motivations that are far more nuanced than you can recognize from your chair.

Agree 100 %. Let people enjoy the game however they want - if it doesnt ruin your experience there is no harm done. And don't talk about being narrowminded while ridiculing a play style different from your own. It makes you look remarkably stupid and bigoted.

At OP, cheers, always interesting to see what players come up with that can help the community.