Argonian Dragonknight

Sovaso

Greetings everyone!
Any tips for Argonian DK? Is it viable for tanking? What kind of gear I should use?

FloppyTouch

What are you tanking? Trials, 4 man vet, pvp?

For pve I say Tavor, bloodspawn, dragon

starkerealm

I don't have any Argonians, so I can only repeat what I've been told, which is that they make shockingly solid tanks.

My first thought on jewelry would be the trainee set, with your sword (Jakarn's Machetee) and board (I forget which shield) finishing up that set.

Sovaso

FloppyTouch wrote: »

What are you tanking? Trials, 4 man vet, pvp?

For pve I say Tavor, bloodspawn, dragon

PvE dungeons mostly

Nifty2g

argonian i think is the best tanking race

Sovaso

Nifty2g wrote: »

argonian i think is the best tanking race

Why?

Enslaved

healing done/recieved, resource return via pots. With DK's ability to get stamina per ignious shield cast, canstitution and other bs, you get a pretty great tanking choice in a Saxhleel.

lonewolf26

Argonians make excellent tanks, some of the best in the game for sustain. For dungeons, just starting out and going crafted consider 5 piece Tava's Favor paired with any 4 piece that helps you generate magicka for sustain. Seducers is handy until you can farm something better.

As you play and farm consider getting a set each of lord warden, mighty chudan and bloodspawn. Each has their merits depending on group needs and your ability to keep your buffs up. Also swap Tavas for Dragon (drops in Eastmarch and is bind on Equip). Also work on getting a set of Ebon from Vaults of Madness. Anything that you can bring to the group to help with sustain, health and support will be very useful.

If you decide to go for Trials later on consider also getting a 5 pc alkosh if you will be off-tanking. You'll want to run that in place of Ebon.

DRXHarbinger

Sovaso wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

argonian i think is the best tanking race

Why?

Because every potion is a tri stat.

runagate

starkerealm wrote: »

I don't have any Argonians, so I can only repeat what I've been told, which is that they make shockingly solid tanks.

My first thought on jewelry would be the trainee set, with your sword (Jakarn's Machetee) and board (I forget which shield) finishing up that set.

Darj's Shield of the Trainee which comes from the first EP quest. The train is Impen so I'm not sure it's something worth looking for unless you're going to PvP. It's certainly not going to be better tanking in PvE.

Enslaved

There is strudy shield too. I think u get it on Bethnik.

starkerealm

Enslaved wrote: »

There is strudy shield too. I think u get it on Bethnik.

Yeah, I think that's the one I was trying to remember. It was either sturdy or reinforced. Sturdy'd be more useful though.

Kalfis

I don't think I've ever seen an Argonian DK......they sound really badass.

starkerealm

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Sovaso wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

argonian i think is the best tanking race

Why?

Because every potion is a tri stat.

The alternative is the Imperial, with their high raw stat bonuses to health and stamina, along with a proc for health recovery on melee attacks. But, yeah, Argonians work very well as tanks.

You'll see people arguing for the Nords, because of their physical resistance up, along with their (much lower) max health up, and health recovery up in combat.

If you really think the resistances are worth it, I'd almost recommend the Breton, with their spell resist up, over the Nords. But, that says more about my opinion on the Nord racials, than the usefulness of Bretons as tanks. (Though they can make for very solid PvP tank builds.)

Redguards have stamina up (which matches the Imperials, and, at least used to be, the same skill the Imperials got, they also get stamina recovery up, and stamina back on melee attacks. Which can make them very useful for some tanking builds.

Occasionally, you'll see someone championing the Orcs as tanks. I don't run any, so, I can't speak with any authority on that subject, but the skills look usable.

starkerealm

Kalfis wrote: »

I don't think I've ever seen an Argonian DK......they sound really badass.

Argonians, in general, are really badass for tank builds. It's something the community overlooked for years, so ZOS kept pumping them further in an attempt to get people to play them. And it's worked, they're probably a little overpowered at this point. But, if that's what it takes to get people playing lizards, then it's worth it.

Masel

Argonian tanks are really powerful. You can tank everything with them. One of my regulars uses an argonian tank for trials, does it better than everyone else I've seen so far. Max health, max magicka, and especially the potion return in combination with the ultimate return makes you basically immortal, not even talking about both of the healing bonuses. Use dragon, tavas and bloodspawn and you'll have an immortal ultibot-lizard. Plus argonian names are the coolest, like Duct-tapes-your-wounds, Blocks-all-the-time, Tail-is-reaching-places etc.

Sovaso

Masel92 wrote: »

Argonian tanks are really powerful. You can tank everything with them. One of my regulars uses an argonian tank for trials, does it better than everyone else I've seen so far. Max health, max magicka, and especially the potion return in combination with the ultimate return makes you basically immortal, not even talking about both of the healing bonuses. Use dragon, tavas and bloodspawn and you'll have an immortal ultibot-lizard. Plus argonian names are the coolest, like Duct-tapes-your-wounds, Blocks-all-the-time, Tail-is-reaching-places etc.

Thanks, great explanation! What kind of traits should I use, weights, enchantments, etc.?

starkerealm

Tanks are the only ones who really get value out of the prismatic runes. Heavy armor. Traits, I'm not sure. Sturdy is a good one to aim for, though Nirn, Reinforced, or Infused may be useful, depending on exactly how your build shakes out.

BloodWolfe

Kalfis wrote: »

I don't think I've ever seen an Argonian DK......they sound really badass.

Really, that rare? My first char was an Argonian DK (my reasoning was nothing to do with stats and just because Dragonknight has "dragon" in the name so why not make him a lizard lol) since ESO's launch (PC launch not console). Really enjoyed him but I wanted to try other chars and switched to a Nord Templar to level up with some friends but then stopped playing for a while.

Recently came back and kind of bored with my Templar so was thinking of getting back into my lizard DK so I am glad to hear that they are doing well.

Lupusdiabolus

My Main is an Argonian Dk Tank and I love it. For normal Pve stuff i go with tavas, ebon and either bloodspawn, sentinel of Rkugamz or Endurance.

WalksonGraves

I have an argonian nb and I use leki/reactive/bone pirate. The combined dr makes even the hardest boss hits meaningless. It would work just as well for dk though.

Masel

Double post

Masel

Sovaso wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

Argonian tanks are really powerful. You can tank everything with them. One of my regulars uses an argonian tank for trials, does it better than everyone else I've seen so far. Max health, max magicka, and especially the potion return in combination with the ultimate return makes you basically immortal, not even talking about both of the healing bonuses. Use dragon, tavas and bloodspawn and you'll have an immortal ultibot-lizard. Plus argonian names are the coolest, like Duct-tapes-your-wounds, Blocks-all-the-time, Tail-is-reaching-places etc.

Thanks, great explanation! What kind of traits should I use, weights, enchantments, etc.?

Traitwise go for an infused weapon with a crusher enchant in trials. I like to use a defending master sword on my taunt bar. You can use the 5 piece of dragon on the other bar only and put warhorn there to cast it cheaper. In trials you can either stick with that setup or drop the master sword and dragon for 5 ebon.
Three dragon jewelry, Then 5 piece tavas favor with one light belt and medium gloves, two heavy bloodspawn. I use tristat enchants on the big pieces and the Shields. A mix of infused, sturdy and nirnhoned is fine in terms of armor traits including the shield.

Mundus stone is atronach for more mag regen to be able to chain more often/cast more mag skills. All 64 points into stamina.
Bars (master sword, main bar): unrelenting grip, pierce armor, shuffle, vigor, choking talons. Ultimate: magma shell (not using it, only in emergencies).
Dragon bar:
Dragonscales (I mean, you're a lizard), heroic slash, hardened armor, inner rage, igneous shield. ultimate: aggressive warhorn.
Or use 5 alkosh with jewelry and weapons, but that is hard to get, especially in purple/gold jewelry, but the more deeps, the better.
PS: If you want to not care about mechanics once in a while, use eternal yokeda

Dantonian_Rarstiana

I use an argonian DK to tank with. It's amazing
Stack everything into HP. EVERYTHING.
Use 5 piece Plague Doctor http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Plague+Doctor+Set
5 piece Green Pact http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Green+Pact+Set
HP enchants on all armor.
Jewelry enchant to magic regen.
Atronach mundus stone.
Use Orzorgas Red Frothgar for your food buff. (max HP, Magic regen) Frothgar http://esoacademy.com/recipes/orzorgas-red-frothgar/ Its the first quest reward from Orzorga in Wrothgar on the little town built on top of Morkul Descent.

This should get you up to 60-75k hp.
Then your Igneous Shield (morph of Obsidian Shield - Earthen Heart) will shield you for about 20k and your party members for 10k. You will be able to spam this every few seconds with how high your regen will be.
You can also hit Bone shield on yourself for another 20k shield (they stack) that your allies can synergize for a massive shield on the whole group.
You only need to block when the boss does a heavy attack because they will still knock you down.

Your healers will be bored to tears. Tell them to DPS.

Sovaso

Masel92 wrote: »

Sovaso wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

Argonian tanks are really powerful. You can tank everything with them. One of my regulars uses an argonian tank for trials, does it better than everyone else I've seen so far. Max health, max magicka, and especially the potion return in combination with the ultimate return makes you basically immortal, not even talking about both of the healing bonuses. Use dragon, tavas and bloodspawn and you'll have an immortal ultibot-lizard. Plus argonian names are the coolest, like Duct-tapes-your-wounds, Blocks-all-the-time, Tail-is-reaching-places etc.

Thanks, great explanation! What kind of traits should I use, weights, enchantments, etc.?

Traitwise go for an infused weapon with a crusher enchant in trials. I like to use a defending master sword on my taunt bar. You can use the 5 piece of dragon on the other bar only and put warhorn there to cast it cheaper. In trials you can either stick with that setup or drop the master sword and dragon for 5 ebon.
Three dragon jewelry, Then 5 piece tavas favor with one light belt and medium gloves, two heavy bloodspawn. I use tristat enchants on the big pieces and the Shields. A mix of infused, sturdy and nirnhoned is fine in terms of armor traits including the shield.

Mundus stone is atronach for more mag regen to be able to chain more often/cast more mag skills. All 64 points into stamina.
Bars (master sword, main bar): unrelenting grip, pierce armor, shuffle, vigor, choking talons. Ultimate: magma shell (not using it, only in emergencies).
Dragon bar:
Dragonscales (I mean, you're a lizard), heroic slash, hardened armor, inner rage, igneous shield. ultimate: aggressive warhorn.
Or use 5 alkosh with jewelry and weapons, but that is hard to get, especially in purple/gold jewelry, but the more deeps, the better.
PS: If you want to not care about mechanics once in a while, use eternal yokeda

So what is the "master sword"? Did you mean "maelstrom"?
And btw thanks for explaining;)

Masel

Dantonian_Rarstiana wrote: »

I use an argonian DK to tank with. It's amazing
Stack everything into HP. EVERYTHING.
Use 5 piece Plague Doctor http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Plague+Doctor+Set
5 piece Green Pact http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Green+Pact+Set
HP enchants on all armor.
Jewelry enchant to magic regen.
Atronach mundus stone.
Use Orzorgas Red Frothgar for your food buff. (max HP, Magic regen) Frothgar http://esoacademy.com/recipes/orzorgas-red-frothgar/ Its the first quest reward from Orzorga in Wrothgar on the little town built on top of Morkul Descent.

This should get you up to 60-75k hp.
Then your Igneous Shield (morph of Obsidian Shield - Earthen Heart) will shield you for about 20k and your party members for 10k. You will be able to spam this every few seconds with how high your regen will be.
You can also hit Bone shield on yourself for another 20k shield (they stack) that your allies can synergize for a massive shield on the whole group.
You only need to block when the boss does a heavy attack because they will still knock you down.

Your healers will be bored to tears. Tell them to DPS.

That is a build (a pretty cool one) from tamrielfoundry from @Alanar:

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/alanarres-invincible-dk-shieldtank/

Masel

Sovaso wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

Sovaso wrote: »

Masel92 wrote: »

Argonian tanks are really powerful. You can tank everything with them. One of my regulars uses an argonian tank for trials, does it better than everyone else I've seen so far. Max health, max magicka, and especially the potion return in combination with the ultimate return makes you basically immortal, not even talking about both of the healing bonuses. Use dragon, tavas and bloodspawn and you'll have an immortal ultibot-lizard. Plus argonian names are the coolest, like Duct-tapes-your-wounds, Blocks-all-the-time, Tail-is-reaching-places etc.

Thanks, great explanation! What kind of traits should I use, weights, enchantments, etc.?

Traitwise go for an infused weapon with a crusher enchant in trials. I like to use a defending master sword on my taunt bar. You can use the 5 piece of dragon on the other bar only and put warhorn there to cast it cheaper. In trials you can either stick with that setup or drop the master sword and dragon for 5 ebon.
Three dragon jewelry, Then 5 piece tavas favor with one light belt and medium gloves, two heavy bloodspawn. I use tristat enchants on the big pieces and the Shields. A mix of infused, sturdy and nirnhoned is fine in terms of armor traits including the shield.

Mundus stone is atronach for more mag regen to be able to chain more often/cast more mag skills. All 64 points into stamina.
Bars (master sword, main bar): unrelenting grip, pierce armor, shuffle, vigor, choking talons. Ultimate: magma shell (not using it, only in emergencies).
Dragon bar:
Dragonscales (I mean, you're a lizard), heroic slash, hardened armor, inner rage, igneous shield. ultimate: aggressive warhorn.
Or use 5 alkosh with jewelry and weapons, but that is hard to get, especially in purple/gold jewelry, but the more deeps, the better.
PS: If you want to not care about mechanics once in a while, use eternal yokeda

So what is the "master sword"? Did you mean "maelstrom"?
And btw thanks for explaining;)

Master sword, you get it from veteran dragonstar arena:

Sovaso

Masel92 wrote: »

Dantonian_Rarstiana wrote: »

I use an argonian DK to tank with. It's amazing
Stack everything into HP. EVERYTHING.
Use 5 piece Plague Doctor http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Plague+Doctor+Set
5 piece Green Pact http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Green+Pact+Set
HP enchants on all armor.
Jewelry enchant to magic regen.
Atronach mundus stone.
Use Orzorgas Red Frothgar for your food buff. (max HP, Magic regen) Frothgar http://esoacademy.com/recipes/orzorgas-red-frothgar/ Its the first quest reward from Orzorga in Wrothgar on the little town built on top of Morkul Descent.

This should get you up to 60-75k hp.
Then your Igneous Shield (morph of Obsidian Shield - Earthen Heart) will shield you for about 20k and your party members for 10k. You will be able to spam this every few seconds with how high your regen will be.
You can also hit Bone shield on yourself for another 20k shield (they stack) that your allies can synergize for a massive shield on the whole group.
You only need to block when the boss does a heavy attack because they will still knock you down.

Your healers will be bored to tears. Tell them to DPS.

That is a build (a pretty cool one) from tamrielfoundry from @Alanar:

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/alanarres-invincible-dk-shieldtank/

wow, I really need to try it!

HatchetHaro

I run an Argonian stam DK (mained him from lvl 1 up to cp 561, and still pretty much only plays him, so I know how to use him), and can either tank really well or dps really well, depending on my loadout.

I find it funny when people tell me that they haven't seen an Argonian DK tank before. Maybe it's due to people preferring to use Imperials or Nords for tanking.

Either way, Argonian stam DK tanking is extremely viable; the potion tristat-passive is really useful, and the healing done/received passive makes you really tanky with a simple Igneous Shields + Vigor combo, and can also be a great AoE emergency heal in a pinch.

For my attributes and cp, I put all of mine into stamina and gear all my cp towards my dps loadout. You can still reach 30k health with purple food, health enchants, and healthy jewellery. If you don't use a dps loadout at all, feel free to put some points into health and use stam enchants. Try to go for 30k - 35k health.

As for the gear, for me, I go with Tava's, Blood Spawn, Endurance Jewellery and a Master sword (Maelstrom shield). Feel free to swap out the weapons and jewellery out for an Akaviri Dragonguard set.

If you're newer to tanking, I suggest sets that are tankier and less utility-focused. Armor Master, Whitestrakes, Hist Bark, Song of Lamae, and Alessia's Bulwark are all viable crafted tanking sets. I would recommend either 5pc Armor Master and any weapons you'd like as long as you don't go over 32.5k resistances, or 4pc Song of Lamae and 3pc Alessia's Bulwark including weapons for a solid no-proc gear set.