Suggestion: two slot for every gear piece real and vanity

Artemiisia

This game has some of the most beautiful amazing looking armors, and it has so many it would be a shame not being able to use it, due to the fact, many times the best gear in slot are what people and myself is going for.

That means, everyone looking the same, which is a damn shame with what 30+ different motifs?


What I suggest is having two slot for every piece of gear

example
1 Jacket that provides real stats and armor
1 Jacket that provides vanity and just for looks.

That would make the crafters have a lot more work, make the game more diverse with people being able to control how they look.

It will also showcase the amazing and hardwork the people that created these motifs looks a lot more.

Mashille

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

Artemiisia

I would do both still actually, im so bumped out I cant use the eye of the hour motif from top to toe, this looks so amazing in heavy armor

EternallyMithril

Mashille wrote: »

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

Not true at all. LOTRO has a very sophisticated cosmetic interface, you can customize multiple sets of cosmetic items in each gear slot (helmet, chest, boots, etc.) and thus custom-make multiple cosmetic outfits of your choice; or you can simply equip a cosmetic costume (which works much like ESO). Despite the ability to do the former, interesting cosmetic costumes are still big sellers in their equivalent of the Crown Store. And when holiday events come up that have those sorts of outfits as rewards, they are very popular.

Granted, LOTRO has been doing this a lot longer than ESO, and when LOTRO first rolled out cosmetic items the system there was not nearly as advanced as it is now. I presume much will be the same for ESO....what we have now is really very rudimentary, but hopefully over time they will develop it into something much more sophisticated.

Sigtric

Mashille wrote: »

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

This is basically the same system LOTRO used for cosmetics and they still sold costumes in the cash store. Plus they could add individual pieces to the crown store as cosmetic only items.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

EternallyMithril wrote: »

Mashille wrote: »

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

Not true at all. LOTRO has a very sophisticated cosmetic interface, you can customize multiple sets of cosmetic items in each gear slot (helmet, chest, boots, etc.) and thus custom-make multiple cosmetic outfits of your choice; or you can simply equip a cosmetic costume (which works much like ESO). Despite the ability to do the former, interesting cosmetic costumes are still big sellers in their equivalent of the Crown Store. And when holiday events come up that have those sorts of outfits as rewards, they are very popular.

Granted, LOTRO has been doing this a lot longer than ESO, and when LOTRO first rolled out cosmetic items the system there was not nearly as advanced as it is now. I presume much will be the same for ESO....what we have now is really very rudimentary, but hopefully over time they will develop it into something much more sophisticated.

^ This.

I have spent significant amounts of cash on "outfit slots", "wardrobe spaces", and Store Costumes.

Being allowed to equip cosmetics would not change how likely or unlikely I am to buy a store costume, if I want it I'll buy it, if I don't want it I won't.

Simples.

All The Best

lillybit

Mashille wrote: »

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

Recent costumes haven't been based on motifs so I think people will still buy them if they would have before. I've got a couple of characters I'd love to use cosmetic armour with but mostly I'd carry on using and buying costumes because I like their look better than armour

MasterSpatula

I would much prefer craftable to be worth wearing.

I think dropped set gear should be deconstructable into a schematic that allows us to re-craft that item, 1 time only, in whatever motif we like. It could even be restricted to the same trait as the original item AND require a trait stone. Hell, different sets could even have different trait requirements.

Just allow BiS to be crafted somehow. It keeps the promise they made a long time ago.

DeadlyPhoenix

Unfortunately there have been numerous suggestions on this subject that have been ignored. Clearly there is a desire for some kind of feature like this and hopefully its in development.

It's been suggested in various ways, both free and paid. It would be nice and extremely welcome, but at this point I'm not holding my breath. It mainly seems like they do what they want regardless of community feedback.

srfrogg23

Mashille wrote: »

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

Wildstar uses the same system and the majority of their cash shop is costumes.

The system that the OP is suggesting would work pretty well for the cash shop costumes if the costumes could be separated into armor slots. Then people could mix and match different costume pieces to create their own unique appearances.

...Hint hint Zenimax.

Sigtric

MasterSpatula wrote: »

I would much prefer craftable to be worth wearing.

I think dropped set gear should be deconstructable into a schematic that allows us to re-craft that item, 1 time only, in whatever motif we like. It could even be restricted to the same trait as the original item AND require a trait stone. Hell, different sets could even have different trait requirements.

Just allow BiS to be crafted somehow. It keeps the promise they made a long time ago.

That's a nice desire to have and I have it too, but it's not really relevant to this particular thread.

Wing

LOTRO had a great system, would love to see it here.

that and monster play were the only things I liked about that game tbh

Danikat

I like this idea. Anything to make equipment more customisable. I'm dreading the day I get stuck with bright red cartoon weapons.

EternallyMithril wrote: »

Mashille wrote: »

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

Not true at all. LOTRO has a very sophisticated cosmetic interface, you can customize multiple sets of cosmetic items in each gear slot (helmet, chest, boots, etc.) and thus custom-make multiple cosmetic outfits of your choice; or you can simply equip a cosmetic costume (which works much like ESO). Despite the ability to do the former, interesting cosmetic costumes are still big sellers in their equivalent of the Crown Store. And when holiday events come up that have those sorts of outfits as rewards, they are very popular.

Granted, LOTRO has been doing this a lot longer than ESO, and when LOTRO first rolled out cosmetic items the system there was not nearly as advanced as it is now. I presume much will be the same for ESO....what we have now is really very rudimentary, but hopefully over time they will develop it into something much more sophisticated.

It's the same in Guild Wars 2.

Well, the equipment part is slightly different: you still only have 1 item in each slot but when you equip a new item it's appearance is saved to your account and then you can apply that skin to any other item of the same type. So for example if you pick up a new sword and like the stats but not the appearance you can make it look like any other sword you've used before. The other side is the same: they sell costumes in the cash shop which are a complete 1-piece set, no customisation, but they don't take up inventory space and you can switch to any of them at any time.

They also manage to sell a lot of costumes, in spite of some people complaining endlessly that they hate them and they're a terrible idea. (Mainly because they replaced a similar system where you could mix and match pieces and some people still miss that.)

In my case I buy costumes that give me looks I can't get from armour. The ones I use most are nice dresses for my female characters and fancy suits for the men. I'm sure other people have their own reasons for buying costumes when they can just mix and match armour pieces freely.

Artemiisia

they could also make it so you can re skin your gear through crafting

MasterSpatula

Sigtric wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

I would much prefer craftable to be worth wearing.

I think dropped set gear should be deconstructable into a schematic that allows us to re-craft that item, 1 time only, in whatever motif we like. It could even be restricted to the same trait as the original item AND require a trait stone. Hell, different sets could even have different trait requirements.

Just allow BiS to be crafted somehow. It keeps the promise they made a long time ago.

That's a nice desire to have and I have it too, but it's not really relevant to this particular thread.

Agreeing with the underlying problem but suggesting an alternate solution isn't relevant? That's a peculiar way of looking at discussion you have there.

Gandrhulf_Harbard

Wing wrote: »

LOTRO had a great system, would love to see it here.

that and monster play were the only things I liked about that game tbh

In-game player music was also pretty damn cool.

All The Best

DocFrost72

Like terraria, then? I love the idea, not surprisingly. +1

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SanderBuraas

@Artemiisia, @EternallyMithril, @Wing

Here is a thread I wrote suggesting an outfit system.

TheShadowScout

Artemiisia wrote: »

Suggestion: two slot for every gear piece real and vanity

Played games like that... never liked it much when people ran around in skimpy dancers outfits, but had heavy armor stats.

And yeah... I wish half the costumes (all the town clothes and such) would be designated "non combat costumes" and unequip as soon as you get hit by any attack... (just like disguises)

Or even better, if costumes limited how much of cour armor was counted.
Wear that dancing silks costume, and none of your armor gets counted.
Wear that wizards robes costume, and light armor gets counted fully, but medium and heavy have their protection reduced to light armor defense.
Wear that assassins leathers costume, and light or medium counts fully, but heavy has reduced protection.
Wear that knights costume, and all armors count fully.
So every costume would have an "armor value" of none-light-medium-all or somesuch.

Then it'd be anyones choice if they wanted to give up something for looks...

But any full "vanity system" is unlikely to happen anyhow, because...

Mashille wrote: »

Been suggested before but not gonna happen as it would stop people buying costumes from Crown Store.

...yes. This.

Rev Rielle

Yes, it would be very nice. And possibly the simplest solution to come up with the aesthetic robustness a lot of players are after in-game. And I guess that's why such a function so popular in other MMOs to date.