ZOS are u really using the forum?

Lyserus

i will spit out everything I want to say in here.
1. Really that is the "balance" patch? I only use templar atm and your idea of balancing is minor buff and NO MORE CC and nerf the ONLY lookable damage skill??
2. Do u really check the forum? I can't even avoid seeing "heavy armor needs to be nerfed" in every three posts and u did nothing??
3. Changeable class please please please....in every patch u decides to cut this nerf that oh don't forget templar always goes to the trash bin. I spend so long on this char and you tell me yes you can change race you can change appearance you can even change your ****** name but NOOOO you can't change the only thing that matters and we will just keep nerfing and nerfing on that class
4. this is a minor request but I will just put it here anyway: customizeable assistants plz. I can even ignore the fact that all three assistants are almost useless (at the very least for subscribers) and unreasonablly expensive, and I have given up on persuade u to change the major part, but can u plz at least let us make our own assistants? a same banker/smuggler/merchant running around with thousands of people sounds realistic to u?

Lyserus

I only mentioned about templar because that what I use

Before u all saying about other classes got nerfed to, please say which role your class "Can't be"
No? that the point, the other three class, even if they get nerfed they still can be tank,dps or healer

Tell me how a templar can outrun any other class on tank and dps, with the new patch note
No more group stun and the main damage skill get nerfed, while the other skills in dawn's wrath are already ( and still) useless

raj72616a

of course they read the forum. pvper whine abt Radiant Destruction, then it get nerfed. pvper whine abt proc sets, then they all get nerfed (how is my 1k per sec proc from Leeching Plate an overpowered burst damage potential?), pet sorcerer whine abt pets being too weak, then pets get double hp and double resistance.

they do give what forumers ask for, don't they?

Pops_ND_Irish

They are making changes, but they cannot please everybody !
I like the changes and everything they have done so far. Ill bet i'm not alone either.
I just enjoy playing the game without worrying about percentage of this or that, etc.
One person likes, the other dislikes, and so the merry go round continues
Never satisfied

Bobby_V_Rockit

Meh, I like the changes. If its not i cap strike that kills me its jesus beam, so pfft. Nerf away

Runs

Perhaps they also use backend data instead of only the complaints on the forums... They also know what is coming, which is something none of us do. So what may ***(pee pee... ZOS really needs to remove this word from the filter) us off on current changes now, could be proven to have been needed later.

3... I would like to see that, but I know many would not.

4... Customization of them really should be added, even if it costs extra crowns.

disintegr8

Everything gets nerfed for PVP'ers who suddenly have trouble killing things.

Templars spamming RD = nerf, DK's healing themselves too much = nerf, more than one person at a time using AOE's killing people too quickly = nerf, proc sets overpowering animation cancellers = nerf.

Stam NB's using sneak and wiping people with 5 hits in 1.5 seconds using animation cancelling = leave them be because ZOS do not know how to stop animation cancelling.

Bartdude

disintegr8 wrote: »

Everything gets nerfed for PVP'ers who suddenly have trouble killing things.

Templars spamming RD = nerf, DK's healing themselves too much = nerf, more than one person at a time using AOE's killing people too quickly = nerf, proc sets overpowering animation cancellers = nerf.

Stam NB's using sneak and wiping people with 5 hits in 1.5 seconds using animation cancelling = leave them be because ZOS do not know how to stop animation cancelling.

Agreed, bout time we separated PVE & PVP so the PVE community (which is far bigger) don't have to suffer because of the whinging PVP crowd and I'm sure they would be far happier too!

Massive_Stain

Bartdude wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Everything gets nerfed for PVP'ers who suddenly have trouble killing things.

Templars spamming RD = nerf, DK's healing themselves too much = nerf, more than one person at a time using AOE's killing people too quickly = nerf, proc sets overpowering animation cancellers = nerf.

Stam NB's using sneak and wiping people with 5 hits in 1.5 seconds using animation cancelling = leave them be because ZOS do not know how to stop animation cancelling.

Agreed, bout time we separated PVE & PVP so the PVE community (which is far bigger) don't have to suffer because of the whinging PVP crowd and I'm sure they would be far happier too!

Lore wise, they should be one and the same. MMORPG-wise, they should be completely separated, with their own separate morphs. Kinda like the Assault/Support skill lines, but for the skill morphs too; ie three choices for a morph.

DreadKnight

disintegr8 wrote: »

Everything gets nerfed for PVP'ers who suddenly have trouble killing things.

Templars spamming RD = nerf, DK's healing themselves too much = nerf, more than one person at a time using AOE's killing people too quickly = nerf, proc sets overpowering animation cancellers = nerf.

Stam NB's using sneak and wiping people with 5 hits in 1.5 seconds using animation cancelling = leave them be because ZOS do not know how to stop animation cancelling.

Absolutely this.

@ZOS_RichLambert

ArchMikem

These threads were inevitable, even if this has been one of the more universally agreeable Patches.

Yeah I'm kinda bummed that they took the stun away from Blazing Spears, but Healers use that for resource management more than anything else. And I don't think Radiant getting a slight damage decrease is gonna be as catastrophic as people think, all you have to do is have high magicka/spell power and you'll still be ruining people's day with it.

Lyserus

ArchMikem wrote: »

These threads were inevitable, even if this has been one of the more universally agreeable Patches.

Yeah I'm kinda bummed that they took the stun away from Blazing Spears, but Healers use that for resource management more than anything else. And I don't think Radiant getting a slight damage decrease is gonna be as catastrophic as people think, all you have to do is have high magicka/spell power and you'll still be ruining people's day with it.

did u just called 20% "slightly"?

Lyserus

MoTeets wrote: »

They are making changes, but they cannot please everybody !
I like the changes and everything they have done so far. Ill bet i'm not alone either.
I just enjoy playing the game without worrying about percentage of this or that, etc.
One person likes, the other dislikes, and so the merry go round continues
Never satisfied

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Meh, I like the changes. If its not i cap strike that kills me its jesus beam, so pfft. Nerf away

I want to know if any of u use templar and like the change?

yeah of course you may like the change but templar's change is something I doubt you will care, but will absoutely change (destroy) templar players. Templar players can only stick to healer now

ArchMikem wrote: »

These threads were inevitable, even if this has been one of the more universally agreeable Patches.

Yeah I'm kinda bummed that they took the stun away from Blazing Spears, but Healers use that for resource management more than anything else. And I don't think Radiant getting a slight damage decrease is gonna be as catastrophic as people think, all you have to do is have high magicka/spell power and you'll still be ruining people's day with it.

but what about other roles? can a templar still be a decent dps or tank nowadays?

Pops_ND_Irish

I use templar but play my own way. Works for me. (Bow/Dual Weld)
I DPS just fine. Never had complaints
Who says you have to play "ONE" style ?

Pixel_Zealot

Tired of the "we're killing templar off, deal with it" attitude from Zenimax. Nerf after nerf after nerf, just remove the class from the game and get it over with.

Yes I'm salty, I've spent 80 hours on my templar just to have it become absolute before the first quarter. If you see a stamina templar in PVE, everyone assumes you're being carried.

It's like Zenimax doesn't even know how to launch their own game. I didn't subscribe for this, but I will cancel because of it.

Pops_ND_Irish

PS4 ?
Send stuff !

Pixel_Zealot

MoTeets wrote: »

PS4 ?
Send stuff !

PC, you can't even render my stuff.

Pops_ND_Irish

Darn ! I tried !

Good Luck, and have a Happy New Year !

Pixel_Zealot

MoTeets wrote: »

Darn ! I tried !

Good Luck, and have a Happy New Year !

Cheers

Lyserus

Pixel_Zealot wrote: »

MoTeets wrote: »

PS4 ?
Send stuff !

PC, you can't even render my stuff.

I'm PC may I get the stuff?
as a poor fellow templar I want to struggle a bot longer

Lyserus

MoTeets wrote: »

I use templar but play my own way. Works for me. (Bow/Dual Weld)
I DPS just fine. Never had complaints
Who says you have to play "ONE" style ?

but now is before the patch yes…?
you are not using radiant and cc?

Pops_ND_Irish

Nope

Pixel_Zealot

Lyserus wrote: »

MoTeets wrote: »

I use templar but play my own way. Works for me. (Bow/Dual Weld)
I DPS just fine. Never had complaints
Who says you have to play "ONE" style ?

but now is before the patch yes…?
you are not using radiant and cc?

Don't forget Rearming Trap and proc set crits as well.

Lyserus

MoTeets wrote: »

Nope

teach me

Pops_ND_Irish

Huh ?? lol
You are probably more seasoned than I am. But I just go with it and see what happens. Being my age (60) and a very long time RPGer, I have always done the unconventional.

You on PC or PS4 ?

Lyserus

MoTeets wrote: »

Huh ?? lol
You are probably more seasoned than I am. But I just go with it and see what happens. Being my age (60) and a very long time RPGer, I have always done the unconventional.

You on PC or PS4 ?

PC…
60?! we have an elite player here 0_0

Pops_ND_Irish

hehe

Have a good and safe New Year

AzraelKrieg

I use a magicka templar. The issue with the CC on Blazing Shards and the 21% nerf to RD doesn't phase me. I don't rely on them as my only means of attack. Shards is a lead in, RD is a finish. They might get used twice during a boss fight with shards being there to support the tank or stam DPS in turn with the healer doing the same.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

@Lyserus

I have mained a Magplar since PC beta. And my mained I mean literally 99.9% of my career play time is on a Magplar. This is how you DPS.

Before: Light Attack w/ sword for spell power buff, entropy, pokey sticks ... 30k DPS

After: Exact same thing.

The only difference is when I'm melting a boss I might have to hit RO once or twice more ... maybe. And now instead of maxing out at 50k damage on the final tick (which was 99% for show anyway) it'll be 40k and you'll get the same result.

Final Verdict: At most you'll have to press a button twice more ... maybe. Standard DPS rotation won't change at all. Pokey sticks can still burn through EVERYTHING.

Adding; Lets not also forget the 13 more blue CP we can use.

Marabornwingrion

disintegr8 wrote: »

Everything gets nerfed for PVP'ers who suddenly have trouble killing things.

Templars spamming RD = nerf, DK's healing themselves too much = nerf, more than one person at a time using AOE's killing people too quickly = nerf, proc sets overpowering animation cancellers = nerf.

Stam NB's using sneak and wiping people with 5 hits in 1.5 seconds using animation cancelling = leave them be because ZOS do not know how to stop animation cancelling.

^THIS

Jimbullbee85

Pvp players have been crying for a nerf on radiant oppression for the whole year I've been playing the game. I have not been lookin forward to it actually happening (im a templar myself) but i have to admit that it was overdue. PvP players have been crying about proc sets since their release also. Heavy armour cannot be nerfed or it would completely destroy tank builds in general. The only thing I can't understand is the ultimate store reduction which is a blatant overload nerf on the sorc. Even I'll admit that sorcs have been hit hard on the last few updates but this one is pretty over the top. I like the idea of being able to create a frost mage tank. Don't see many players using frost staves, although I would have liked to see an AOE taunt available for tanks in general.