New pvp meta, broken templar v2

SublimeSparo

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

Kalante

Yea it's as if the people that work on this game don't even think about this stuff when changing skills or gear. They just throw things out with no second thought. Sometimes i do feel they know what they are doing and are just trolling us really hard, or they are just that incompetent.

kadar

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

Sigh...

SublimeSparo

The_Outsider wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

Sigh...

Indeed, with enough block cost reduction, desert rose + channelled focus + constitution + minor magick steal = literal perma block

LizardThixvim

*ZOS reads this* "hm the problem is clearly javelin" *nerfs all templar skills*

DreadKnight

SublimeSparo wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

Sigh...

Indeed, with enough block cost reduction, desert rose + channelled focus + constitution + minor magick steal = literal perma block

Had it planned the moment I saw - Stam changed to Mag on Black rose and jewellery/weapons available. Today is a very sad day.

SublimeSparo

Only question is whether to go 5 heavy or 5 light, thinking 5-1-1 will be the way to go either way

DreadKnight

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Only question is whether to go 5 heavy or 5 light, thinking 5-1-1 will be the way to go either way

Thinking 5 heavy, 2 light myself (but then I don't have the undaunted passive yet)

Steffi_K

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

The way I see it the game goes from you need skill to play this game. To just block and wait until your zerg/friends arrive or destro ult is up.

It happens every patch, more and more skilled gameplay is removed. For example you can bash most of the skills anymore.
Just press destro and block that's the way to play?

DreadKnight

Steffi_K wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

The way I see it the game goes from you need skill to play this game. To just block and wait until your zerg/friends arrive or destro ult is up.

It happens every patch, more and more skilled gameplay is removed. For example you can bash most of the skills anymore.
Just press destro and block that's the way to play?

Agreed. Everyone has a destro staff on his back nowadays. The destro ulti has ruined the game in pvp, it's a bit like when they had the gap closers jumping up on top of walls - just ruined the battles completely, removed any skills required, just wait and press the easy button.

@ZOS_RichLambert

DreadKnight

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

....or Reactive and Black Rose......and Malubeth, of course!

SublimeSparo

DreadKnight wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Only question is whether to go 5 heavy or 5 light, thinking 5-1-1 will be the way to go either way

Thinking 5 heavy, 2 light myself (but then I don't have the undaunted passive yet)

Yea I'm leaning towards 5 heavy, the cost reduction and regen from the light will be negligible in this setup anyway

SublimeSparo

DreadKnight wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

....or Reactive and Black Rose......and Malubeth, of course!

Staves only count as 1p so you are limited to 5p 4p 2p or 5p 5p 1p or 5p 3p 3p
Prob best to go with desert rose + black rose/ reactive then vma/masters ice staff or 1p kena depending on what you have available

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Or ... just keep your same build! RO is still gonna kill the same no blocking, no line-of-sighting, no peripheral vision maroons it always did. And when you have 3 of them you'll just see the damage in your death recap add up to 50k instead of 70k. You'll still be 100% dead though.

Regardless, good on the OP here. Instead of complaining the OP went into the think tank and figured something out.

DreadKnight

SublimeSparo wrote: »

DreadKnight wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

....or Reactive and Black Rose......and Malubeth, of course!

Staves only count as 1p so you are limited to 5p 4p 2p or 5p 5p 1p or 5p 3p 3p
Prob best to go with desert rose + black rose/ reactive then vma/masters ice staff or 1p kena depending on what you have available

Yeah, I get that, my post was somewhat tongue in cheek

Olysja

omg, u already spotted the new pvp meta. well done<.< luckly zos never :care: about this forum and never played eso , so we will be able to play that build till 2018/19-

Destyran

SublimeSparo wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

Sigh...

Indeed, with enough block cost reduction, desert rose + channelled focus + constitution + minor magick steal = literal perma block

You cannot recover magic while blocking witg ice staff at all i thought?

Wollust

Destyran wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

The_Outsider wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

Sigh...

Indeed, with enough block cost reduction, desert rose + channelled focus + constitution + minor magick steal = literal perma block

You cannot recover magic while blocking witg ice staff at all i thought?

Only your magicka recovery is 0 while blocking with an ice staff. Stuff like constitution, channeled focus, desert rose, warlock and whatever else will still give you magicka when they proc.

raj72616a

your mag regen becomes zero when blocking with ice staff, but you can gain magicka from other sources. that was how stam tanking had been doing it the whole time anyway

TequilaFire

Threads like these brainwash me into the meta, oh wait I already have a Templar with 5,1,1 heavy (magnus) magicka S&B destro since the game began. lol

mdylan2013

Is having unkillable players with low stats that can't kill anyone with half a brain that much of an issue?

I'd say the proc set wearing stamina based characters that are able to literally dominate PVP is more of an issue right now.

Hopefully by the time PTS comes to an end we will have it more balanced on the battlefield...

psychotic13

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Templar
5p desert rose 5p black rose Ice staff sword & board
Perma block
Infinite stam, magick, cc breaks, heals purges, reflects.
Unkillable

How's that any worse than the blazing shield Templars? Just walk past them their damage won't be nothing special

Stamden

This is my #1 concern as well. If they want to change the sets so that you can have all these on a Templar, plus frost staff blocking.. Templar is just going to be insanely broken.

Airyus

Try it out before you say anything. Post a video showcasing your results. Otherwise feedback here is just hear say and conjecture

sirston

easy fix, if you have a MagDK running with you....Fossilize the perma blocker.

MaxwellC

@sirston
Nah you're better off with a NB because at-least fear will make the enemy move which provides a delay when breaking free while fossilize you can just shrug it off.

WillhelmBlack

Correct.

WillhelmBlack

sirston wrote: »

easy fix, if you have a MagDK running with you....Fossilize the perma blocker.

Try again.

sirston

MaxwellC wrote: »

@sirston
Nah you're better off with a NB because at-least fear will make the enemy move which provides a delay when breaking free while fossilize you can just shrug it off.

goodbye your stamina then. by the time you shrug it off your CC immunity is gone so another one it is! Also to add in I can Talon you while you're already CC'ed by Fossilize and doesn't do enough damage to break fossilize 2k Dmg....face it MagDK wins for CC when I can double the CC.

BossXV

DreadKnight wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Only question is whether to go 5 heavy or 5 light, thinking 5-1-1 will be the way to go either way

Thinking 5 heavy, 2 light myself (but then I don't have the undaunted passive yet)

Is 5 heavy the best for everything at this point? Even stam DPS DK?

Wollust

BossXV wrote: »

DreadKnight wrote: »

SublimeSparo wrote: »

Only question is whether to go 5 heavy or 5 light, thinking 5-1-1 will be the way to go either way

Thinking 5 heavy, 2 light myself (but then I don't have the undaunted passive yet)

Is 5 heavy the best for everything at this point? Even stam DPS DK?

Heavy is best for PvP. Not for PvE DPS.