MagDK or Magplar?

waterfairy

I've never played either so I'm completely clueless...which is the "better" class atm? I want to roll my 1st during the event and I plan on playing solo most of the time, mixing in some group dungeons with 2 noob friends.
I did some research but found so many contradicting builds and opinions that I don't even know if light or heavy is best suited for these classes.

All I'm looking for is a signpost to help point me on the path that doesn't end with a pit of regret at end game.


P.S. I'm good with a mag sorc and stamblade so I was thinking of using dual wield and a staff for the new class.

FrostFallFox

Templar! Sustain is easier than a MagDK.

EldritchPenguin

I started with a Magicka Dragonknight as my very first character, and I have to say that I'm glad I did that, because it's a bit of a mess to play. You're basically stuck in melee range, your resource management is terrible, you deal almost entirely in DoTs, and your rotation can be a nightmare to manage. After playing that for a while, starting with a Magicka Sorcerer or Templar was a piece of cake.

Take from that what you will.

Ishammael

For PvP or PvE?

If PvP, mTemplar much stronger.

If PvE, both are great.

waterfairy

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EldritchPenguin wrote: »

I started with a Magicka Dragonknight as my very first character, and I have to say that I'm glad I did that, because it's a bit of a mess to play. You're basically stuck in melee range, your resource management is terrible, you deal almost entirely in DoTs, and your rotation can be a nightmare to manage. After playing that for a while, starting with a Magicka Sorcerer or Templar was a piece of cake.

Take from that what you will.

lol very informative...thanks.

AcadianPaladin

Can't help regarding DKs. I have played a stamblade, stamsorc, magsorc and now play a magplar. I will never go back to anything but a magplar. Very subjective of course but I find the playstyle no less than glorious. Mine is a healer and with only a couple dps skills slotted, can kick butt duing solo play or if swarmed when with others. Robust healing not only helps others, it turns out to be a magnificent defense as well. The class is magicka intensive and mine is a Bosmer (no racial magicka bonuses) so focusing on high magicka, regen and reduced cost of spells is important.

So for what its worth, I simply love the magplar.

SanSan

Both are battlemages or so. Have to get close to actually deal decent damage. Templar has an amazing (best) execute but dk has more sustain (you'll live more.)
I did hear that dks are getting a buff in the next update for their crap magicka sustain.

NBrookus

For an all-around, competent, versatile class, magplar would get my vote.

Nyghthowler

I have one of each. Both are extremely fun to play (IMO). But they are like comparing apples to pork chops. Totally different play styles.
Personally, I think the Magplar is easier to start with because of all the heals.

MaxwellC

Mag DK is horrible, just got Magtemplar for easy street.
When they bring back sustain (maybe dynamic ultimate regen again ) then we'd have better sustain. The class overall needs a rework, sick and tired of not being able to burst through shield stackers on any form of my class Mag or Stam.

Shader_Shibes

Magplar is boring af. *** easy rota makes for dull gameplay. Magdk has a somewhat tricky rota to begin with, but all those flames, Grothdar and burning spellweave make it great fun to play.

DRXHarbinger

Magdk anyway. Play a DK properly and you'll never run out of magika. Mines flawless and uses 3 potions per run and still gets a 530k score everytime. Magplar is tedious and boring and you'll be forever out of potions.

incognito222

I play both.

Magplar = easy mode

MagDK = hard mode

If you're looking for an exercise in frustration, roll a magicka DK but it will lead you to the inevitable, which is ending up playing magicka templar.

TorvenTool

MagDK is the most hated class by ZOS....

- no sustain
- if u have sustain u lack in damage and vice versa
- DOTs are useless in PVP because TESO PVP is purely a zerg bomb party...the bigger the zerg the more success
- the only way u can deal with a magDK in Cyro is to use staff and S+B....but at the end and if u have a direct comparison because you play templar or NB or Sorc....u will say...ZOS hates the MagDK or want you to play him as tank only (so far for "play as u want")

Wollust

MagDK is just endlessly harder to play and extremely unforgiving. It can be loads of fun aside from the frustration every now and then.
I'd recommend going for mTemplar if you haven't played either tbh. That's for open world PvP.
Duels and PvE is a completely different story.

Grabmoore

incognito222 wrote: »

I play both.

Magplar = easy mode

MagDK = hard mode

If you're looking for an exercise in frustration, roll a magicka DK but it will lead you to the inevitable, which is ending up playing magicka templar.

I strongly disagree.

@ OP: Both are fun and viable. mDK has some better constant damage and is easier to play in ranged situations.

Magplar has the better self heal and execute but only mediocre ranged dps. You could say that dks got more utility with chains and claws, while templars have a good group buff and a better defending ultimate.

incognito222

Grabmoore wrote: »

incognito222 wrote: »

I play both.

Magplar = easy mode

MagDK = hard mode

If you're looking for an exercise in frustration, roll a magicka DK but it will lead you to the inevitable, which is ending up playing magicka templar.

I strongly disagree.

@ OP: Both are fun and viable. mDK has some better constant damage and is easier to play in ranged situations.

Magplar has the better self heal and execute but only mediocre ranged dps. You could say that dks got more utility with chains and claws, while templars have a good group buff and a better defending ultimate.

Forgot to mention that my previous opinion was for open world PVP. For PVE magicka dk is not that bad.

Adenoma

Presently, magplar is significantly stronger than magDK. That said, I think if you learn magDK then any other class will feel pretty straightforward. I think that playing magDK made me a stronger player.

Strider_Roshin

Both are pretty easy to play, both have excellent survivability, and damage, both excellent for group play, and dueling. Templars have great range damage, DKs have wings which make them a pain for anyone that uses projectiles.

Just make one of each, and see which you prefer.

Enslaved

mDK would be my choice. And with buffs on the way confirmed by Zos, mDK might be great again for both PvP and PvE.

mb10

lol @ everyone speaking so negatively about magDK

You dislike it because its a difficult class to play and you like Magtemplar because 70% of the class is spamming heals in pressure situations and spamming radiant destruction.


magdk takes a lot more skill and when you're good at it, you're very good at it.

Do whatever you think you'll have more fun with anyway

timidobserver

Balance patch soon. Forecast is nerf for Magplar and buff for magDK. Do both while you have the XP buff.

Strider_Roshin

mb10 wrote: »

lol @ everyone speaking so negatively about magDK

You dislike it because its a difficult class to play and you like Magtemplar because 70% of the class is spamming heals in pressure situations and spamming radiant destruction.


magdk takes a lot more skill and when you're good at it, you're very good at it.

Do whatever you think you'll have more fun with anyway

It's not a difficult class to play lol. I actually used to think it was based on how everyone talks about them, but now that I have one they're actually pretty easy. It's hard to die with an OP heal like burning embers, Flame lash hits hard as oblivion, and resource management is cake with battle roar. People that struggle playing a magDK will struggle playing anything; especially anything stamina (except stam sorc because they're easy to play now).

TorvenTool

timidobserver wrote: »

Balance patch soon. Forecast is nerf for Magplar and buff for magDK. Do both while you have the XP buff.

Hi, I missed it. Where can I find detailled informations on the MagDK buffs?

BlackEar

Magplar just kicks ass in every way so people are naturally jealous. Judging by the comments here inky confirms that.

ObsidianMichi

I really enjoy the Magplar as they were the latest class I leveled. They're a great, versatile class. However, the MagDK has always sounded like fun.

Something to consider:

Both the Templar and the DK have very different dedicated class alternatives. One is a Healer and the other is a Tank. This colors the directions of their play styles and makes them fairly different.

So, it depends on what you enjoy.

For me, DK is much slower than Templar in the early levels. It's starts getting fun around level 30 once I have access to the skills up the tree, but it takes awhile for it to come together. Templar hits the ground running with some very powerful DPS abilities at the early levels and a solid clickheal that also heals other party members (or anyone in the general vicinity).

I'd try both, see what you like best.

Integral1900

Go with what feels right, I have both and once you get used to the mag dk wierd yet complex rotations it can deal a lot of damage. I enjoy them both but in terms of user friendly I would have to say it's the Templar. Mine is based on a dps build deltia did a little while ago with a few tweaks like shields to stop me getting one shotted. For reference I only do pve, no idea what would be best on the other side of the fence but my suspicion would still be the Templar as the rotations are simpler for the same results

Sugaroverdose

mb10 wrote: »

lol @ everyone speaking so negatively about magDK

You dislike it because its a difficult class to play and you like Magtemplar because 70% of the class is spamming heals in pressure situations and spamming radiant destruction.


magdk takes a lot more skill and when you're good at it, you're very good at it.

Do whatever you think you'll have more fun with anyway

People actually saying that mDK is hardest class to play for now, what's wrong in this statement?

NBrookus

TorvenTool wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Balance patch soon. Forecast is nerf for Magplar and buff for magDK. Do both while you have the XP buff.

Hi, I missed it. Where can I find detailled informations on the MagDK buffs?

There is no detailed information yet. Other than stating there were "exciting" changes coming to Dragonblood, ZOS has been vague.

TorvenTool

NBrookus wrote: »

TorvenTool wrote: »

timidobserver wrote: »

Balance patch soon. Forecast is nerf for Magplar and buff for magDK. Do both while you have the XP buff.

Hi, I missed it. Where can I find detailled informations on the MagDK buffs?

There is no detailed information yet. Other than stating there were "exciting" changes coming to Dragonblood, ZOS has been vague.

Thank you very much @NBrookus .

svartorn

I enjoy both. Being an explosive lavawhip is fun and so is a glowy goldness.

I prefer the playstyle of the templar, though.