Templar 20k+ DPS Build

P3ZZL3

Hey all.

Ok, call me an idiot, call me a suspicious person, but I'd like to see someone post a video please of a Magika Templar throwing down a regular 20k+ DPS build please.

I've seen many "BIS" builds around, but for just once, I'd like to see one, where the person is going head to head, Zero support, taking on a boss.

I'm sure there's lot's of people that can do it, but I'm having trouble finding them.

Cheers.
Pez

P3ZZL3

45 views and no link. Speaks volumes so far

Surely there is something out there where your not buffed by all eternity on a Trial run?

VoidBlue

I've seen a couple videos where it was just a tank keeping aggro/doing light healing and the DPS doing its thang self reliant.

But don't recall where on YouTube it was.

lolo_01b16_ESO

What's the point of this "zero support" requirement? Why should anyone optimize his build to be perfect for the rare case where the "tank" doesn't use pierce armour, noone in the group uses any skill that has a debuff or buff as side effect?

LadyNalcarya

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

Hey all.

Ok, call me an idiot, call me a suspicious person, but I'd like to see someone post a video please of a Magika Templar throwing down a regular 20k+ DPS build please.

I've seen many "BIS" builds around, but for just once, I'd like to see one, where the person is going head to head, Zero support, taking on a boss.

I'm sure there's lot's of people that can do it, but I'm having trouble finding them.

Cheers.
Pez

Have you checked vMA templar runs?
0% support, a lot of movement+self-sustain. Probably the only "0 support" endgame scenario (even though its not a dps test per say).
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcCB8K2b5I
In regular dungeons its not hard to pull 30+ with decent gear, even with screwed up rotation.

P3ZZL3

Mainly because I hear of this legacy "Must need 20k+ minimum" for trials on forums and in community in general.

And I'm intrigued how this is achieved.

I'm running a swap out combo of Spinner/BSW/Grothdar and Soulshine/BSW/Grothdar and interested in where these legendary, trial associated figures come from

Hence the Zero support requirements. I've even read where guilds will give 1 Ultimate in "x" fight demonstrating over 20k dps....

disintegr8

I think the OP is getting at all of the posts we see where people say they are doing 20k or 30k dps and how if you cannot do this you are not a good DPS. Most of the posts where people say you must do this damage or that damage to be a good DPS never actually show you how it is done.

I'd like to see what damage can be done by someone without Maelstrom weapons or gold jewelry, maybe only wearing crafted armour and a monster set is capable of.

P3ZZL3

This is kinda the point @disintegr8

I watched that video and sure, there are occasions where the person tops 20k. Sometimes 30k in the early part.

But single target, 20k+ without group buffs i'm not seeing.

Don't get me wrong, that's a good run in Maelstrom....just want to see these hero's is all

LadyNalcarya

disintegr8 wrote: »

I think the OP is getting at all of the posts we see where people say they are doing 20k or 30k dps and how if you cannot do this you are not a good DPS. Most of the posts where people say you must do this damage or that damage to be a good DPS never actually show you how it is done.

I'd like to see what damage can be done by someone without Maelstrom weapons or gold jewelry, maybe only wearing crafted armour and a monster set is capable of.

Its funny how some people think "Its all because of vMA staves!". You can easily test it - on pts there are coffers with every one of them.
And yeah, the difference between gold and purple jewelry is soooo huge... Right?

P3ZZL3

@KoshkaMurka

This is the thing right. People say this, but between purple and gold - very little - it's in the realms of BiS.

For most, average to good players, Purple is fine. If you have the cash, sure, upgrade.

Bu the key element is the actual gear you are running and the rotation you use.

I've found one that seems to be working for me, giving me on average crica 22k dps. Achieved this on a 6m fight.

This does not seem to be the norm. This is what I'd like to see, where a gear build does run this kind of DPS on a single target over a long period of time. Instead, I see a lot of vids - bar the one above - where it's trial based?

P3ZZL3

Side Note: If those "community Heavy weights" would like to pipe up and explain, I'm sure all would like to hear. @Deltia @Alcast @Nifty2g etc

I'm doing my head in and spending a LOT of gold to get this bugger sorted - as am I'm sure many of the community

Which brings me on to a separate question. Soulcast Gear - does it work on Puncturing Sweeps or not? And if so, is it better or worse than running spinner with BSW?

LadyNalcarya

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

@KoshkaMurka

This is the thing right. People say this, but between purple and gold - very little - it's in the realms of BiS.

For most, average to good players, Purple is fine. If you have the cash, sure, upgrade.

Bu the key element is the actual gear you are running and the rotation you use.

I've found one that seems to be working for me, giving me on average crica 22k dps. Achieved this on a 6m fight.

This does not seem to be the norm. This is what I'd like to see, where a gear build does run this kind of DPS on a single target over a long period of time. Instead, I see a lot of vids - bar the one above - where it's trial based?

Well, usually its something like 5 Moondancer+2Groth+5Mothers Sorrow/TBS. Thats why I was kinda surprised that you asked about 20k mark, Groth+sweeps+any decent dps set would already put you there.
I personally havent played as a dd for a very long time, but in semi-pug vet trial runs I was able to hit 35-37k (and I only used some random gear from my bank, I think it was 5 TBS, 3 Aether and 2 random Willpower swords lol). High-end builds can pull 50k of course, but Ive never been good at that.
So yeah, it might be related to your rotation, or might be caused by poor support and/or teamwork (axes on the loose, having to rez all the time, having to kite the boss when tank died etc).
As for vMA vid, you need to understand that running/waiting for mobs to spawn/etc isnt the same as dpsing in dungeon or trial. Its just the only "no support" instance I can think of -and even then you can see how the mobs melt when theyre actually attacked. For usual dps checks theres at least a tank.

runagate

You really want to see Nifty's magplar build here is a post right on the forums:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/235221/a-guide-to-magicka-templar-dps-bonus-healer-build/p1

SienneYviete

Wait so is this saying that you just can't get 20k dps on a magplar for some reason or you don't think it's achievable? because magplar has some of the highest dps capability in the game. I use a pretty sub par gear setup compared to some others and can still pull between 40-45k with raid buffs (2 grothdarr, 5 tbs, 3 willpower, 2 torugs swords and a masters inferno) and around 25-30k when I go a bit more defensive in vma or soloing a vet dungeon boss self buffed.
If it's the former issue one thing that helped me was rather than watching build videos and attempting to emulate a skill bar watch videos of these guys like nifty, Jace or alcast actually dpsing a boss, watch the rotations, see what skills they cancel and what order they cast their dots.

I think a lot of entry level raid guilds use the 20k mark as a guide and tbh with the power creep in this game 20k is an extremely fair mark to attain.

freespirit

I'm a total idiot as far as builds go but my templar solo's normal 4 man dungeons and on the boss fights 20-25k is bad for me.

Sorry no video because I have no idea how to record my gameplay let alone post it

I feel my build is lacking as far as trials go, so I am not doing them atm.

Sweeps and purifying light should put you up there, chuck in jesus beam at the end and you're laughing. oh and the Destro Ulti can boost your figures no end, that should get you 20k+ easily.

Oh and before anyone says how many better ways there are, please note my first sentence!!

Also my gear is legendary and whilst I do have several different sets most of the time I'm running mostly crafted stuff.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

45 views and no link. Speaks volumes so far

Surely there is something out there where your not buffed by all eternity on a Trial run?

your title suggests your posting the 20kdps build. not that the viewers are going to come here to post one