New Motif/ Style Stones

sickboy2808 · December 2016

So i just bought the new Motif there but had to log off straight away before i could find this out, so how do i require the Style Mat so that i can make my new armour? I got 5 crown Gems or whatever there called included but do i need to buy more from the Store??

Saoirse_Siobhan · December 2016

Yep you can only use mimic stones from the Crown Store.

sickboy2808 · December 2016

Dam they only game me 5 to start off with. That aint enough

Dagoth_Rac · December 2016

sickboy2808 wrote: »

Dam they only game me 5 to start off with. That aint enough

itehache · December 2016

When you purchase the bundle it clearly shows you will get 5 mimic stones but I agree you should receive more

Ourorboros · December 2016

It's the price you pay for trying to look cool.

driosketch · December 2016

The last one gave you as many as the big pack of mimic stones, yet cost less. I'm surprised to hear them cheap out on this one.

ookami007 · December 2016

5 mimick stones isn't even enough to make a full set of armor.

GREED FAIL ZOS!

sickboy2808 · December 2016

Yeah it is a bit cheeky giving only 5

vyndral13preub18_ESO · December 2016

So wait, there is no way in game to make this set without mimic stones? That can't be right....

Stopnaggin · December 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So wait, there is no way in game to make this set without mimic stones? That can't be right....

It's right, at least the last one they gave you enough stones, this time it appears not so much.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · December 2016

Stopnaggin wrote: »

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So wait, there is no way in game to make this set without mimic stones? That can't be right....

It's right, at least the last one they gave you enough stones, this time it appears not so much.

It never entered my mind, that they would make a costume you had to keep paying for to use.

Stopnaggin · December 2016

It isn't a costume, it's a motif. You could probably make some gold from making the motif pieces for others, that whole anti gold for money stance from ZOS, you have to figure in what it would cost in terms of rlm, or have the customer buy the stones. If they are even transferable.

Kodrac · December 2016

Guess I won't be getting this one then.

Loralai_907 · December 2016

Yeah, I'm skipping this one too. I really wanted it, but I am completely over everything that screams rip off. For the Holiday season, they have gifted many people with bad feelings between things like this and the delightful implementation of the event. Jokes on us.

driosketch · December 2016

Stopnaggin wrote: »

It isn't a costume, it's a motif. You could probably make some gold from making the motif pieces for others, that whole anti gold for money stance from ZOS, you have to figure in what it would cost in terms of rlm, or have the customer buy the stones. If they are even transferable.

They are not. But if it's like the last one, when you deconstruct a piece of this style you have a chance the actual style item will drop. You could probably trade that item, but who would want to?

Stopnaggin · December 2016

driosketch wrote: »

Stopnaggin wrote: »

It isn't a costume, it's a motif. You could probably make some gold from making the motif pieces for others, that whole anti gold for money stance from ZOS, you have to figure in what it would cost in terms of rlm, or have the customer buy the stones. If they are even transferable.

They are not. But if it's like the last one, when you deconstruct a piece of this style you have a chance the actual style item will drop. You could probably trade that item, but who would want to?

Pretty pitiful on zos part. Last festival 2200 crowns motif and 54 stones

This festival 2000 crowns motif and 5 stones but the crown store has a mimic stone sale for 1800 so total cost 3800 crowns

Dagoth_Rac · December 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So wait, there is no way in game to make this set without mimic stones? That can't be right....

There is no way to farm for the Stalhrim Shard style stone. However, deconstructing a piece of Stalhrim Frostcaster gear created with a mimic stone can extract a Stalhrim Shard. Which can then be sold for gold or traded with other players. So the style stone will probably start to show up at guild traders and you could acquire them in-game that way. But I doubt anyone will want to go to 40 different guild traders until they finally find a Stalhrim Shard, not to mention they might be asking a lot of gold.

So can these be acquired in-game? Yes. But it will be a real pain in the neck and probably expensive. I have much more of a problem with this than the motif book itself in the store. The motif book? It is cosmetic and a one-time purchase. A reasonable item to put in cash shop for a game with no required subscription. But the inability to acquire the style stone in-game makes it feel like there are "maintenance fees" associated with crafting this motif. That I do not like at all.

sickboy2808 · December 2016

Wish i had thought about this a bit more than i did. I didnt have much time to get on tonight and had been looking forward to this Motif, i just presumed ZOS were giving me 5 Stones as a start and then i could get more just like regular style stones. This has really annoyed me

driosketch · December 2016

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So wait, there is no way in game to make this set without mimic stones? That can't be right....

There is no way to farm for the Stalhrim Shard style stone. However, deconstructing a piece of Stalhrim Frostcaster gear created with a mimic stone can extract a Stalhrim Shard. Which can then be sold for gold or traded with other players. So the style stone will probably start to show up at guild traders and you could acquire them in-game that way. But I doubt anyone will want to go to 40 different guild traders until they finally find a Stalhrim Shard, not to mention they might be asking a lot of gold.

So can these be acquired in-game? Yes. But it will be a real pain in the neck and probably expensive. I have much more of a problem with this than the motif book itself in the store. The motif book? It is cosmetic and a one-time purchase. A reasonable item to put in cash shop for a game with no required subscription. But the inability to acquire the style stone in-game makes it feel like there are "maintenance fees" associated with crafting this motif. That I do not like at all.

Now that I think of it, someone with the money could buy the motif and the mimic stone packs, create and decon several pieces, and list style items that drop for a lot of gold. This time around ZOS even created the shortage and demand for those looking to "buy gold", if indirectly.

Aurielle · December 2016

I bought the Grim Harlequin motif during the Halloween event, as the number of mimic stones included in that purchase was very reasonable. Alas, all of those mimic stones are on my PC account that I no longer play...

Won't be getting any cash out of me for this one, ZOS. Who thought it would be a good idea to charge $20 for a motif, when you can't even craft ONE full set after purchasing it?

Stopnaggin · December 2016

They did that even with grim harlequin. It's an indirect cash for gold, albeit a small one at the moment. I have seen amber marble for 1000g ea on traders. Can't imagine what the price for the new stuff would be.

NewBlacksmurf · December 2016

driosketch wrote: »

Stopnaggin wrote: »

It isn't a costume, it's a motif. You could probably make some gold from making the motif pieces for others, that whole anti gold for money stance from ZOS, you have to figure in what it would cost in terms of rlm, or have the customer buy the stones. If they are even transferable.

They are not. But if it's like the last one, when you deconstruct a piece of this style you have a chance the actual style item will drop. You could probably trade that item, but who would want to?

@driosketch

In theory that sounds ok but in actual practice
1. Why pay to create something hoping to get a style item (it's already created by paying real money twice)
2. Are you 100% sure the style item exists ingame (I think that's the overall complaint)

Carbonised · December 2016

ESO marketing department: First they add a bunch of mimic stones to offset the annoyed people who didn't want a crown store exclusive motif. Now that we're used to crown store exclusive motifs, they take away the mimic stones too, basically forcing you into their crown store every time you want to craft it.

Why does this game seem more and more like a huge cash grab scheme than an RPG. I imagine even Bernard Madoff would give me better deals than ZOS. And a merry xmas to you too, by the way. 'Tis the season to be spending, for sure.

driosketch · December 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

driosketch wrote: »

Stopnaggin wrote: »

It isn't a costume, it's a motif. You could probably make some gold from making the motif pieces for others, that whole anti gold for money stance from ZOS, you have to figure in what it would cost in terms of rlm, or have the customer buy the stones. If they are even transferable.

They are not. But if it's like the last one, when you deconstruct a piece of this style you have a chance the actual style item will drop. You could probably trade that item, but who would want to?

@driosketch

In theory that sounds ok but in actual practice
1. Why pay to create something hoping to get a style item (it's already created by paying real money twice)
2. Are you 100% sure the style item exists ingame (I think that's the overall complaint)

Well you wouldn't normally, that's why I ask the rhetorical question at the end, and i not certain but they did for the last crown motif.

I have since learned style items for the last one sold for 8-10k gold. So if someone has the money for mimic stone packs, they could sell the items for a lot more to those who bought this motif and are short the items to make a full set.