Elder Scrolls Lore: After the War of Three Alliances?

Emothic

Hello, I'm Emothic. First let me say that I really enjoy learning about the Lore of the Elder Scrolls universe, and spend great amount of time learning what I can. However there is one bit of lore that I cannot seem to find. The lore of which I am seeking is the outcome of the war between the three alliances of Elder Scrolls Online. I do know the events that led up to the war, but cannot find the events of its end and beyond. What I'm seeking is: How did the war end, was there a victor, what happend in the years/decades/centuries after the war?

I had always though that the war ended when Talos, or also known as Tiber Septum, activated a giant Dwemer machine using the heart of Lorkhan (or the dead gods heart deep inside Red Mountain) to power it. Using it to defeat the three alliances and claiming Cyriodil for his own. But in my research I found that I was completely wrong, as Talos was born between 250 - 300 years after the war.And as such my research has hit a wall, as I cannot find any information of what happend after the war.

Does anyone know what happend after the war of the Three Alliances, who or if anyone won, and the effects it had on Tamerial during the aftermath? Also if there is no information to be found, what are some theories you might have to what happend afterwards?

Xundiin

Emothic wrote: »

Hello, I'm Emothic. First let me say that I really enjoy learning about the Lore of the Elder Scrolls universe, and spend great amount of time learning what I can. However there is one bit of lore that I cannot seem to find. The lore of which I am seeking is the outcome of the war between the three alliances of Elder Scrolls Online. I do know the events that led up to the war, but cannot find the events of its end and beyond. What I'm seeking is: How did the war end, was there a victor, what happend in the years/decades/centuries after the war?

I had always though that the war ended when Talos, or also known as Tiber Septum, activated a giant Dwemer machine using the heart of Lorkhan (or the dead gods heart deep inside Red Mountain) to power it. Using it to defeat the three alliances and claiming Cyriodil for his own. But in my research I found that I was completely wrong, as Talos was born between 250 - 300 years after the war.And as such my research has hit a wall, as I cannot find any information of what happend after the war.

Does anyone know what happend after the war of the Three Alliances, who or if anyone won, and the effects it had on Tamerial during the aftermath? Also if there is no information to be found, what are some theories you might have to what happend afterwards?

The reason the devs chose this time period on Tamriel lore is because there isn't a whole lot written for it. Sure there are snippets and such from the TES games. But over all it's pretty much unknown.

Jaeysa

I don't believe it's ever been said, but my head cannon is that Ayrenn gets assassinated by one of her own people and the Altmer begin to change the dominion to a more 'altmer first' alliance than it currently is leading to bosmer and Kahjiit revolt. Emric is killed by a cultist and the covenant eventually fractures. The Skald King...he seems to be the one who's least likely to be assassinated. In general he seems to care about his people more than Emric and is less niave than Ayrenn. He's also the only one with an heir that we know of and by the end of the EP story line, said heir is likely to try and continue the pact.

That being said, without the worry of DC and AD in cyrodill, I feel like the pact has less of a reason to stay there and I think they might become more isolationist, focusing on their own problems.

Danikat

And most of what we do know comes down to there being near-constant war and no 'true' emperor for the entire of that period. (Which means both that no one was able to hold the throne for long and that none of those who tried were able to relight the Dragon Fires.)

Situations like that tend to make record keeping difficult. Fewer people can afford the time to write detailed records, many of the ones they do write will be destroyed by the war and the ones that survive are more likely to be contradictory because they'll be biased by which side the writer is on. (We see this already with books and scrolls in the game - according to the Dominion they were practically forced to claim Tamriel because humans had proven completely incapable of ruling themselves. According to the Covenant and the Pact the altmer are nothing but opportunists seizing on perceived weakness to steal the throne.)

So basically as far as we know what happens after is yet more fighting between the different races, and all the races and the daedra and all the races and occasional forces from outside the continent of Tamriel, right up until Talos/Tiber Septium comes along and sorts it out by conquering everyone else and conveniently also being one of the few individuals capable of lighting the Dragon Fires, which simultaneously sorts of the daedra and proves he's the rightful emperor.

Enodoc

The war was invented for ESO and inserted into a time period without any existing lore. As such, there is no recorded outcome of the war yet. Everything which took place chronologically after the war was already part of the lore before the war was added to the timeline.

Personally, I think the result of the war will be status quo ante bellum; the alliances will collapse at the deaths of their respective leaders (since there will be noone to hold them together), and Cyrodiil will go back to being a battle of incidental warlords until Cuhlecain and Tiber Septim arrive on the scene.

Ilsabet

Check out the Tamriel Timeline on The Imperial Library. We're in the Second Era. There's not much there specifically relating to the outcome of the war, but it does include all of the official events that are recorded in in-game lore.

My understanding is that there is no clear victor in the war, all three alliances eventually fall apart, and the throne of Cyrodiil is occupied by various insignificant warlords until Talos comes along and does his thing.

Silver_Strider

Well, Tiber Septim uses Numidium to defeat the Aldmeri Dominion of the 2nd era.

During that time, Morrowind is back to their slave owning ways, as the Tribunal granted use of Numidium in exchange that they remain in charge of Morrowind and free to govern its policies, including slavery, so I feel it's save to say the Ebonheart Pact had desolved at that point.

The Daggerfall Covenant's lore is unknown at that point, probably got bored and sacked Orsinium again lol.

Leads me to believe AD ultimately won the War, til Talos came in with Death Bot Timelord.

Narvuntien

Perhaps the war goes three hundred years?

I think right now it is just at its most hot.
Then were was probably a series of peace treaties and cease fires. As the allances simply didn't have the resources to keep fighting and it broke into smaller boarder skirmishes and clashes. Such as the ones over the Reach that Talos later makes his name in.

I am not sure if the allances themselves fractured but Khajit and argonians and orcs are no longer closely tied come the later eldar scrolls games.

These wars can just peater out and everyone just gets tired of fighting but there is still no clear winner.

RinaldoGandolphi

IMO the Events of ESO are a Dragon Break

This is hinted at many times during the main quest:

• When Varen prays to Akatrosh to open a portal out of Coldharbor in the beginning and drops the Skyshard fragment
• When they use the Amulet of Kings in Coldharbor(A place it has no power as its bound to Nirn) yet it gives the Vestige power anyways.

All these things could not happen under normal circumstances because the Aedra have ZERO power in the Daedric realms and all their power is bound to Nirn.

There is precdent for this sorta thing though

If you played TES Daggerfall the game has many possible endings. All of these endings were possible yet none of them really happened...they were all merely the conclusion of many possible endings.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Warp_in_the_West_(event)

In 3E 417, events stemming from the death of King Lysandus of Daggerfall set in motion an upheaval in Hammerfell and High Rock. This event is called the Warp in the West, the Miracle of Peace,[1] or the Second Numidian Effect.[OOG 1] An unknown hero, who is believed to have been an agent of the Blades, gained control of a mighty artifact known as the Totem of Tiber Septim.[1] While unable to use it themselves, it is believed that the major factions of the Iliac region engaged in a bidding war, attempting to purchase the artifact. In the end, Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, Orsinium, and the Emperor all gained control of this artifact and used it to control Numidium and thus consolidate their political powers, somehow at the same exact time.[1] On the 9th of Frostfall, there were forty-four citystates. On the 11th, after a number of mysterious cataclysms and anomalies, there were only four, Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, and Orsinium, all swearing loyalty to the Emperor.

Other consequences of the totem's usage have had less well-known ramifications. It is believed that Mannimarco, the King of Worms, used the totem to give himself the power of a god. The Underking is believed to have reclaimed his heart using the totem, giving him the death he had sought for so long and creating an anti-magic zone in a several mile radius around the area. The agent of the Blades is believed to have been killed in the process

So the last Dragon Break(the Warp in the West) saw Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, Orsinium, Mannimarco, and the Underking all the the use the Totem of Tiber Septim at the same time, and at the same time multiple possible outcomes all coming to fruition.

(Such as Mannimarco ascending to become the God of the Necromancer(The Necromancers Moon appears in the Sky after this event) and leaving a weak mortal version of himself behind) Because of the Dragon Break Mannimacro is both a mortal and a god....event after the events of Oblivion Mannimarco comes in the dreams of those he deems worthy and teaches them the secrets to becoming a Lich, and the Shade of Revenent still occurs where Mannimacro uses his powers to Block Arkay's power temporarily to allow the the creation of Black Soul gems to trap the souls of sentient beings(man,mer, and beastfolk)

So the Events of ESO do happen, but they are just one of many possible realities....just like in the Warp in the West..Mannimacro fails to become a God in all but one of the possibilities, but because he succeeds in one of the possible outcomes, he stays as the God of Necromancer, and the Necromancers Moon appeears in the Sky and stays there, and he is able to speak to those he feels worthy and grant them power as well as allowing them to create Black Soul gems.

Nirn is a giant clustered mess at this time, with the Dragon Fire out, and everyhting else...Akatosh is very well stirring in his dream right now on the brink of waking up, for that reason time is being sundered left and right, and many possible alternate outcomes are being created right before us....all of them are cannon, yet none of them happen...such is the way of the Dragon Break.

Isellskooma

Proc sets won the war.

Father_X_Zombie

The Covenant kinda wins even if they didnt take Cyrodiil. Their goal is an alliance that unites all of the races of Tamriel. They eventually get that when Tiber Septim comes 200yrs later and Jesus beams everything.

AEAltadoonPadhome

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

IMO the Events of ESO are a Dragon Break

Then where in ESO can I see the Blue Star shining in the sky?

RinaldoGandolphi

AEAltadoonPadhome wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

IMO the Events of ESO are a Dragon Break

Then where in ESO can I see the Blue Star shining in the sky?

I thought this too, but i came to the conclusion that its probably there its just not permanent.

During the Interregnum the Dragon Fires are out for a "Long time" Jaufree in Oblivion comments about this in fear when talking about how the Dragon Fires would be out for the 1st time in centuries.....

It makes sense that during the Intergerrum Molag Bal's Planemeld idea would(if he had succeeded) probably caused the Divines great pain causing them to wake up.....perhaps that was his plan all along, who knows with the God Schemes....remember the Daedra knew the Aedra back before the Aedra sacrificed themselves and put themselves into some sorta "dream state" where Nirn actually exists...those who Achieve CHIM realize its a dream and have control over things...much like how Tiber Septim and Vivec were able to achive this state.

It appears that during the the events of ESO Akatosh may have been "on the brink" of waking up numerous times, and it explains a lot of the wacky events that happen in ESO

Best example is 3rd and 4th era books being written by people who were not born yet being found in ESO such as Rumination on the Elder Scrolls by Septimus Signus and The Last King of the Ayleids by Herma Cinna.....

Yes Hermaous Mora was drawing them in across time, BUT he was only able to do this because Time itself was sundered and all messed up because Akatosh was stirring in and out of his sleep state....he was literally on the brink of waking up....

when you put these pieces together it makes sense, it also makes sense that much of the Intergerrum was lost to history because Time was all sundered and messed up and this Dragon Break occurred lending much of this part of history as really sorta an unknown.

This is just my personal take on it, TES leaves a lot to allegory and theory with its stories...which is a part i really like....im not big on absolutes, and being able to see a star depends greatly on many factors, and when part of your world is melding with an Oblivion realm, things can get all wacky and out of sorts.

its just my opinion that ESO is just one of many possible outcomes, its also very possible that once the Dragon Fires are lit, perhaps the Warp in the West does more then what was originally thought and perhaps erases the events of ESO from the timeline or laters them in some other way....as the events of the Warp in the West are not fully understood.

Enodoc

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Well, Tiber Septim uses Numidium to defeat the Aldmeri Dominion of the 2nd era.
[...]
Leads me to believe AD ultimately won the War, til Talos came in with Death Bot Timelord.

Different Dominion. That's the Second Dominion, which was founded in 2E 830. Which means that Ayrenn's Dominion must have been long gone by then.

AEAltadoonPadhome wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

IMO the Events of ESO are a Dragon Break

Then where in ESO can I see the Blue Star shining in the sky?

I thought Mnemoli was only present during the Middle Dawn Dragon Break? She doesn't need to be in all of them.

But I don't think ESO occurs in a Dragon Break. There's lots of other lore to use that doesn't require going for the "retcon everything" route.

waterfairy

There's nothing official yet because the events of ESO are all retcon

Enodoc

Vigarr wrote: »

There's nothing official yet because the events of ESO are all retcon

Retcons require retroactively changing existing lore continuity. There wasn't any lore for the mid-Second Era at all (aside from the Knahaten Flu), so there's nothing for them to retcon; they're just filling in empty space.

mb10

Not at all sure and no one is but what we do know is the Aldmeri Dominion still exists in lore afterwards whereas the other 2 do not.

Dracane

The war slowly cooled down over time.
Many died, the anger vanished over time and the Empire eventually managed to settle down.

Dunmer and Nords started fighting each over again and argonians were forced back to blackmarsh.
Redguards and Redguards unified against Orsinium.
The Khajiit forgot about Ayrenns help and forgot who they belong to. Though, the bound between Bosmer and Altmer is to stay,thus the Dominion remained until it was forced to disband under Talos cruel conquest.

This is basically how it happens, according to what we know.

Xundiin

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

IMO the Events of ESO are a Dragon Break

This is hinted at many times during the main quest:

• When Varen prays to Akatrosh to open a portal out of Coldharbor in the beginning and drops the Skyshard fragment
• When they use the Amulet of Kings in Coldharbor(A place it has no power as its bound to Nirn) yet it gives the Vestige power anyways.

All these things could not happen under normal circumstances because the Aedra have ZERO power in the Daedric realms and all their power is bound to Nirn.

There is precdent for this sorta thing though

If you played TES Daggerfall the game has many possible endings. All of these endings were possible yet none of them really happened...they were all merely the conclusion of many possible endings.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Warp_in_the_West_(event)

In 3E 417, events stemming from the death of King Lysandus of Daggerfall set in motion an upheaval in Hammerfell and High Rock. This event is called the Warp in the West, the Miracle of Peace,[1] or the Second Numidian Effect.[OOG 1] An unknown hero, who is believed to have been an agent of the Blades, gained control of a mighty artifact known as the Totem of Tiber Septim.[1] While unable to use it themselves, it is believed that the major factions of the Iliac region engaged in a bidding war, attempting to purchase the artifact. In the end, Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, Orsinium, and the Emperor all gained control of this artifact and used it to control Numidium and thus consolidate their political powers, somehow at the same exact time.[1] On the 9th of Frostfall, there were forty-four citystates. On the 11th, after a number of mysterious cataclysms and anomalies, there were only four, Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, and Orsinium, all swearing loyalty to the Emperor.

Other consequences of the totem's usage have had less well-known ramifications. It is believed that Mannimarco, the King of Worms, used the totem to give himself the power of a god. The Underking is believed to have reclaimed his heart using the totem, giving him the death he had sought for so long and creating an anti-magic zone in a several mile radius around the area. The agent of the Blades is believed to have been killed in the process

So the last Dragon Break(the Warp in the West) saw Sentinel, Wayrest, Daggerfall, Orsinium, Mannimarco, and the Underking all the the use the Totem of Tiber Septim at the same time, and at the same time multiple possible outcomes all coming to fruition.

(Such as Mannimarco ascending to become the God of the Necromancer(The Necromancers Moon appears in the Sky after this event) and leaving a weak mortal version of himself behind) Because of the Dragon Break Mannimacro is both a mortal and a god....event after the events of Oblivion Mannimarco comes in the dreams of those he deems worthy and teaches them the secrets to becoming a Lich, and the Shade of Revenent still occurs where Mannimacro uses his powers to Block Arkay's power temporarily to allow the the creation of Black Soul gems to trap the souls of sentient beings(man,mer, and beastfolk)

So the Events of ESO do happen, but they are just one of many possible realities....just like in the Warp in the West..Mannimacro fails to become a God in all but one of the possibilities, but because he succeeds in one of the possible outcomes, he stays as the God of Necromancer, and the Necromancers Moon appeears in the Sky and stays there, and he is able to speak to those he feels worthy and grant them power as well as allowing them to create Black Soul gems.

Nirn is a giant clustered mess at this time, with the Dragon Fire out, and everyhting else...Akatosh is very well stirring in his dream right now on the brink of waking up, for that reason time is being sundered left and right, and many possible alternate outcomes are being created right before us....all of them are cannon, yet none of them happen...such is the way of the Dragon Break.

Trying to figure out how you think this is a dragon break. THe amulet of kings existed before Tiber Septum. It's an artifact that has power regardless if it's in oblivion or not. it would work the same as the artifacts of the Daedric Princes that exist in Nirn.

Akatosh opening a portal for man doesn't seem far fetched because it would be the same as Daedric princes opening portals in Nirn. Which they've done. Only difference is Akatosh protects the mortal realm through the amulet and the dragon fires.

Deadric Princes have no power in Nirn and Aedra have no power in Oblivion. Yet both are able to open portals to the other and artifacts work in both.

TheShadowScout

Basically it has been said - the three banners war eventually dies down in a stalemate, flares up again, and on and off there is always some conflict or other going on in the coming centuries, some small, some larger, some here, some there... until Talos starts conquering, and re-establishes the empire as Tiber Septim in a about three centuries on the TES timeline.

Very little is said in the established lore about this time, which is why they choose to set ESO here - freedom, they can do almost anything in this time peroid, as long as its nothing to contradict what comes after (that cannot be explained away by tall tales being taken for truth in the coming centuries)

And yeah, all the alliances will eventually crumble.

The covenant is already doing so in ESO timeline, with Kurog deposed (aka, killed by a hero of uncertain heritage), and the orcs reconsidering the terms of their alliance, and eventually the bretons and redguards will also fall apart once more - that will start at the death of high king emric, and the sucession struggle between the breton nobles that follows. These troubles will end the covenant, and their designs on cyrodil, and they never really recover from that... ending with the bretons returning to their individual kingdoms and the redguards turning inward to the brewing struggle between crowns and forebears.

The dominion will fare better, though they will also keep finding themselves plagued by internal strife, and become more and more withdrawn to deal with that. And yes, the Khajiit will eventually walk their own path for a while, while the atmer and bosmer sort of stay together - on paper at least, and that paper will eventually lead to the refoming of the dominion when the altmer conquer valenwood during some near-civil war there half a century before the tiber wars, also allying with the khajiit and maormer. That second dominion will actually prove the greatest opponent to Talos, and is only defeated after the numidium is sent against them.

The pact only holds together as long as they are threatened by external foes, as soon as the threat lesses, the nords and dunmer will start quarrelling again, and then feel they no longer need to tolerate argonians (or free argonians in case of the dunmer) in their lands... so that too will eventually break apart, the nords go back to drinking mead and bragging about the size of their... axes, and the dunmer go back to enslaving argonians, while the argonians go back to black marsh, and killing slavers...

And the imperial remnant will slowly purge the worm cult, and eventually rebuild from nibenay and the colovian highlands, hoping to recover what they lost... numerous petty warlords from all sides will try over the coming centuries, some may even conquer the imperial city, but none will manage to hold onto their gains for long. Only when the armies of falkreath win their victory at sancre tor thanks to a young general later known as Talos will the empire start to rise once more...

But in the meantime... for now in ESO... we still have the three banners war going on for the enjoyment of the PvPlayers...

Enodoc wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

There's nothing official yet because the events of ESO are all retcon

Retcons require retroactively changing existing lore continuity. There wasn't any lore for the mid-Second Era at all (aside from the Knahaten Flu), so there's nothing for them to retcon; they're just filling in empty space.

Exactly. This "Interregnum" era is pretty much empty of lore... so they can fill it with whatever they like, as long as its not something that contradicts later lore (like a return of the dwemer, or dragons...). And the "daedric forces taking advantage of a time of troubles" shtick likely will get some more use during the future of ESO, they pretty much accounced as much in several conversations.

geonsocal

so, I guess all this means - Zos still might be able to squeeze some dragons into the game (seeing how all the lore is fuzzy from this time period)...

and those deadric titans are absolutely butt ugly...molag bal's clone rip offs of Boziikkodstrun just ain't cutting it...

waterfairy

Enodoc wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

There's nothing official yet because the events of ESO are all retcon

Retcons require retroactively changing existing lore continuity. There wasn't any lore for the mid-Second Era at all (aside from the Knahaten Flu), so there's nothing for them to retcon; they're just filling in empty space.

It is a retcon because it pretty much goes against the whole plot of Oblivion.

Vrienda

Nothing official has been written about it. I guess we'll find out in game one day.

My personal headcanon is that the three alliances dissolved and years later Tiber septim started burning any books and documents relating to the war and the planemeld to discourage dissenters and prevent them reforming after he became emperor. Keeping only the second dominion, which he personally crushed, part of history.

He set himself up to be worshiped as a god, he had to make sure people saw him as one. Hence why the history books lie about him turning Cyrodiil from a swamp into what it is in Oblivion. Wouldn't surprise me if destroying the history of the three alliances was part of his propaganda war.

Korah_Eaglecry

The Aldmeri Dominion is on a razors edge from becoming what the Veiled Heritance would of wanted it to be. Altmer first, everyone else subserviant to them. Its not like slavery is completely alien to Altmer society. They often enslave goblins to perform menial tasks. Just visit Toothmaul Gully in Auridon for some first hand experience of this. And by the time youre done with the AD storyline its revealed it would not take all that much for the Veiled Heritance to make a return and to actually kill/exile Aryenn. Everything about the AD storyline sets up what we see in the Third Aldmeri Dominion in Skyrim. The current status quo can not stand when there was so much support for the Veiled Heritance in the first place.

The Daggerfall Covenant cant last either because while it seems to be the most stable. The only ones truely benefitting here is King Emeric and King Fahara'jad. Yes King Kurog was able to secure Wrothgar and Orsinium for the Orcs. But that delicate situation is all to close to the edge. No Breton or Redguard army is permitted within the Kingdom of Orsinium and its obvious most Orcs have no love for Kurog and a unified Orsimer. All it would take for the DC to come apart is for the Orcs to walk away from the alliance and the Bretons and Redguards to set upon them the way they have in the past. Without the Orcs the DC would not be strong enough to maintain their position in Cyrodiil.

As for the Ebonheart Pact. They will eat themselves alive. The Nords dont care about Argonian freedom as much as its made out to be. When an Argonian Tribe refused to fight for the Pact they were quickly exiled and there is currently Argonians under the protection of the Pact being kidnapped in Shadowfen. No one besides the Vestige lifts a finger to right this. The Dres are complicit with the attack on the Tribunal and the Nords can barely say they are unified when Jorunn and his brother openly fight for the crown while at the same time Skyrim is split into two. It wouldnt take much for the illegal Argonian slavery to come to light and for that delicate alliance between the two races to fall apart. And where are the Nords going to fall once that happens? Do they back the weaker and less unified Argonians or the Dunmer whom have a long history of betrayal?

THEDKEXPERIENCE

While it might not answer this question check out the Shoddycast videos on YouTube. They are ESO lore nerd heaven. Not sure if those guys are still making videos but man were they great at it.

lagrue

Although I'm an Ebonheart boy, I would say judging by the fact that the Dominion exists as late as Skyrim's timeline (albeit reformed multiple times during that course of history), that the Dominion likely 'wins' the alliance war and basically dominates Tamriel into the future.

Unless I'm wrong - and if I am somebody please correct me - the Dominion is the only faction that exists outside of ESO and so that's why I believe how I do.

Vrienda

lagrue wrote: »

Although I'm an Ebonheart boy, I would say judging by the fact that the Dominion exists as late as Skyrim's timeline (albeit reformed multiple times during that course of history), that the Dominion likely 'wins' the alliance war and basically dominates Tamriel into the future.

Unless I'm wrong - and if I am somebody please correct me - the Dominion is the only faction that exists outside of ESO and so that's why I believe how I do.

The first dominion disbands.

The second dominion was created a few hundred years after ESO and they're allies with the sea elves in addition to Bosmer and Khajiit.

LMar

To add to all that has been said about the Alliances slowly dissolving for whatever reason I also present you what the Pocket Guide to the Empire says:


"The Cyrodilic Empire endured for another four hundred years under the auspices of the Akaviri Potentate (see sidebar, The Second Empire), fell, and suffered a similar span of years in the insurrections, misrules, and loss of power known as the Interregnum. Yet, the remnants of the Cyrodilic Empire refused to die, even though both East and West had become fragmented beyond measure. A petty king of the Colovian Estates, Cuhlecain, came to power and appointed an Atmoran as General of his legions. General Talos had studied in Skyrim, and used the thu'um. He could rout armies with his battle-cry and shout lesser men off their feet. A year later more than half of the Cyrodilic Empire was reclaimed or consolidated, and Cuhlecain saw fit to move into the Nibenay Valley, capture the capital city, and proclaim himself Emperor. By this point, High Rock and Skyrim, which bitterly opposed a return to Cyrodilic rule, gathered their armies for a joint invasion of the Colovian West."



So basically Cyrodiil forces, in the form of the Colovian Highlands basically summon enough power to become a dominant force slowly slowly after the Three alliances fail and their power wanes. Once it summons enough power it tries to start uniting the empire again. High Rock and Skyrim start reacting but Talos eventually rises and stops any dissent. He then goes on to do his stuff.

So basically, 3 alliances stop existing quite a long time before the 3rd Era, and the Colovian Estates start becoming the dominant power

JKith

I'm waiting for the Talos patch where there are no more alliances but they all merge and a completely new quest line is created where Talos unites everyone under one empire!!! The greatest battle in all of history!!

WhitePawPrints

ShoddyCast (YouTube channel) has a lot of ES lore that they compiled into videos prior to the release of ESO.

From what I have understood about this time of is that it is plagued by faction wars. The current three were probably the strongest of this chaotic period and survived the longest. The faction will fall but I don't think it can be considered "after the war" because war will continue with different leaders and factions after that; probably with few peace treaties in between.

Enodoc

Vigarr wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Vigarr wrote: »

There's nothing official yet because the events of ESO are all retcon

Retcons require retroactively changing existing lore continuity. There wasn't any lore for the mid-Second Era at all (aside from the Knahaten Flu), so there's nothing for them to retcon; they're just filling in empty space.

It is a retcon because it pretty much goes against the whole plot of Oblivion.

How so? It uses the same premise; no Dragonfires, so Tamriel is open to invasion. This time around, Molag Bal got there first; next time, Dagon gets there first.