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Are Macros prohibited by ZOS? If not, what macros are you using for PvE?
Hello,
I've researched and ZOS does not seem to prohibit the use of Macros. Although they provide a significant increase in DPS, unless of course you are a super hardcore player and mastered the art of animation canceling and skill rotation.
I've tested only 1 simple macro so far: Using the ALT key to toggle constant heavy attacks:
- press LMB
- delay 400 ms
- release LMB
Perform this action every 10 ms.
Having this spams constant heavy attacks, more specifically it spams heavy attacks as soon as they are converted to heavy instead of ligh attacks.
This way, my movement speed is not being reduced when spamming heavy attacks, and i only need to focus on the skills rotation.
Having tried this macro, my DPS increased by about 30%. God knows what would had happened if I played arrount to make macros for skill rotation and skill anymation canceling with attacks.
So what macros are you using?
I've researched and ZOS does not seem to prohibit the use of Macros. Although they provide a significant increase in DPS, unless of course you are a super hardcore player and mastered the art of animation canceling and skill rotation.
I've tested only 1 simple macro so far: Using the ALT key to toggle constant heavy attacks:
- press LMB
- delay 400 ms
- release LMB
Perform this action every 10 ms.
Having this spams constant heavy attacks, more specifically it spams heavy attacks as soon as they are converted to heavy instead of ligh attacks.
This way, my movement speed is not being reduced when spamming heavy attacks, and i only need to focus on the skills rotation.
Having tried this macro, my DPS increased by about 30%. God knows what would had happened if I played arrount to make macros for skill rotation and skill anymation canceling with attacks.
So what macros are you using?
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Macros are prohibited per the Terms of Service.
"You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of "bots", "speed hacks", "deep-link", "page-scrape", "robot", "spider", algorithms or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums), software that transmits, manipulates, or distributes (including, but are limited to, "mirroring") the data stream or any aspect of the Services to another computer, server websites or other publication or distribution media, or software that permits You to use Services without human input are examples of methods not authorized by ZeniMax."
And more specifically:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2512949/#Comment_2512949
"using macros is against the terms of service"
Also see:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2089721/#Comment_2089721
Edited by Elsonso on December 10, 2016 8:36PM1 -
I read the terms of service, and it prohibits only exploits and cheats, it does not prohibit setting up spell rotations with only one key. And honestly even if it was, macros can be set up so that their activation interval is randomized making them practically undetectable.0
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »I read the terms of service, and it prohibits only exploits and cheats, it does not prohibit setting up spell rotations with only one key. And honestly even if it was, macros can be set up so that their activation interval is randomized making them practically undetectable.
Undetectable or not, they are still against the ToS.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2512949/#Comment_2512949ZOS_AlanG wrote:
Thank you for providing the quote, @Idinuse, using macros is against the terms of service. We certainly don't mind a thread being created to ask about this, but this is starting to delve into more detail than is acceptable on the forums so we are locking this thread.Idinuse wrote:"You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums)."
ToS from EsoSed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?0 -
"may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities" That would be true if macros provided any advantage than normal execution of abilities. Macros does not provide any unfair advantage as all executed skills can be replicated by a skilled player.
Also one of the mods that 90% (or more) of the PC users have "Wykkyd's Framework" has build in macros. Would that mean that all people using it should be banned?!Edited by rosendoichinoveb17_ESO on December 10, 2016 8:41PM0 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What you want to do with macros is against the rules. You also cannot use macros to automate emotes in chat. (However, you can use an add-on for the latter) Unless someone from ZOS wants to come in here and let us know they have changed their mind, this has been discussed in the past, and the answer is pretty clear.
Edited by Elsonso on December 10, 2016 8:44PM1 -
Ok thank you for the information. I fully condone the normal playstile without macros. However, I fear that a lot of people are using them and there is no way to have them detected if their execution is randomized
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »"may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities" That would be true if macros provided any advantage than normal execution of abilities. Macros does not provide any unfair advantage as all executed skills can be replicated by a skilled player.
Also one of the mods that 90% (or more) of the PC users have "Wykkyd's Framework" has build in macros. Would that mean that all people using it should be banned?!
Influence is not equal to advantage, that's why it mentions both influence or advantage, so yes still completely and fully covered by the ToS no matter how it's sugarcoated.
And the inevitable tries to debate and point at other things, that are not 3rd party software running in the background, as some sort of affirmation that using Macros is ok, is as fruitless too.
Macros are against the ToS. There's nothing there to interpret.Edited by Idinuse on December 10, 2016 8:55PMSed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?2