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WEEKLY GEM REWARDS | ESO+ PERK (suggestion)

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I've seen plenty of people upset over the whole Crown Crate situation, so why not reward players for continuing their ESO+ Subscription with Gems?
Each week you are being rewarded with Gems.

The longer you keep your ESO+ Subscription the greater reward! Every fifth week will increase the amount of gems you are getting on that fifth week.

Not only would people WANT to Subscribe to ESO+ (more money for ZOS), it would encourage people to get on the game. I believe it's better to give out gems weekly than monthly as it would encourage players to get on and collect their weekly gems as you would need to log on to collect them. Rewards reset if Subscription is interrupted or cancelled.

It's just a suggestion :wink:

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Edited by andreasranasen on December 8, 2016 11:40PM
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    I'm on board!
  • JD2013
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    Whereas I like the idea in theory, because we get crowns for subbing I doubt they'll give us gems too.
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
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    I'm on board!

    Maybe the perk should be the number of storage space for housing instead of gems LMAO ;)
    Edited by andreasranasen on December 8, 2016 11:18PM
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  • Pandorii
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    Interesting idea. It's a hybrid of loyalty rewards + crown gems. :)

    I can imagine some players who are subscribers but anti-crown crates might be upset.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    no thanks....

    i am neither pro nor anti crates (yes it is a possible and coherent position) i get plenty from my sub as it is. less than 25p a day for a brilliant game and a near infinite craft bag.....
    Edited by jedtb16_ESO on December 8, 2016 11:22PM
  • andreasranasen
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    Pandorii wrote: »
    Interesting idea. It's a hybrid of loyalty rewards + crown gems. :)

    I can imagine some players who are subscribers but anti-crown crates might be upset.

    How could you get upset though? The longer you keep your subscription the more gems you'll end up getting. It'll add up in the long run and maybe after 4-5 months of collecting gema. The anti-Crown-Crates people can finally have their apex mount :)
    Edited by andreasranasen on December 8, 2016 11:20PM
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    • Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
  • Abeille
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Whereas I like the idea in theory, because we get crowns for subbing I doubt they'll give us gems too.

    That's how I feel too. It is like when people say subscribers should get crates with their subscription - we kinda do, four of them a month, if we choose to use our 1500 Crowns to get the four-crates package.

    I wouldn't be opposed to the system OP's suggests, of course, since any way to get Gems without gambling would be a way to direct purchase the Crate stuff. But the thing is, if ZOS wanted us to purchase it directly, they would simply put it in the regular store.
    Edited by Abeille on December 8, 2016 11:22PM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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  • andreasranasen
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.
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  • Andrew1175
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    I like this idea. I always liked games with weekly/daily rewards. It really made me look forward to it after getting home from work. Not that I don't enjoy this game already. This would just ADD to the greatness.
  • Woeler
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    I like this.
  • Unsent.Soul
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    I'm on board!

    Maybe the perk should be the number of storage space for housing instead of gems LMAO ;)

    Son of a B***, why didn't they just hire YOU?
  • Birdovic
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    As much as I am against the crates, I like the idea itself :smiley:
    But I doubt something like this is gonna happen, since people already stay subscribed because the craftingbag itself is enough reason to keep the sub going.
    Edited by Birdovic on December 8, 2016 11:51PM
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.
  • starkerealm
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.
  • andreasranasen
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    They actually had Loyalty Rewards, but they stopped having it. Google it :)
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  • starkerealm
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    Abeille wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Whereas I like the idea in theory, because we get crowns for subbing I doubt they'll give us gems too.

    That's how I feel too. It is like when people say subscribers should get crates with their subscription - we kinda do, four of them a month, if we choose to use our 1500 Crowns to get the four-crates package.

    I wouldn't be opposed to the system OP's suggests, of course, since any way to get Gems without gambling would be a way to direct purchase the Crate stuff. But the thing is, if ZOS wanted us to purchase it directly, they would simply put it in the regular store.

    Yeah, this is pretty much how I feel about it. I'd be in favor of pretty much any non-crate Gem source, though I seriously doubt we'd see one.

    So, while this would be very nice... I'm not going to hold my breath.

    That said, a few gems wouldn't be a bad way to encourage players to actually log in. Especially since you can buy consumables with the very low end balances. The issue is, I don't think the game's at a point where it needs to scrape to keep people logging in. That's usually the hallmark of a game that's having serious population issues, and is willing to cough up some cash just to get you to log in on the hope you'll do something.

    If the game gets to that point in the future, then this isn't a bad way to go, I just don't think we're there yet.

    That said, "yes, please?" It'd be kinda cool, and a nice gesture.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    Nooo way different
    The crowns are a currency that can give gems
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    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • andreasranasen
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    Abeille wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    Whereas I like the idea in theory, because we get crowns for subbing I doubt they'll give us gems too.

    That's how I feel too. It is like when people say subscribers should get crates with their subscription - we kinda do, four of them a month, if we choose to use our 1500 Crowns to get the four-crates package.

    I wouldn't be opposed to the system OP's suggests, of course, since any way to get Gems without gambling would be a way to direct purchase the Crate stuff. But the thing is, if ZOS wanted us to purchase it directly, they would simply put it in the regular store.

    Yeah, this is pretty much how I feel about it. I'd be in favor of pretty much any non-crate Gem source, though I seriously doubt we'd see one.

    So, while this would be very nice... I'm not going to hold my breath.

    That said, a few gems wouldn't be a bad way to encourage players to actually log in. Especially since you can buy consumables with the very low end balances. The issue is, I don't think the game's at a point where it needs to scrape to keep people logging in. That's usually the hallmark of a game that's having serious population issues, and is willing to cough up some cash just to get you to log in on the hope you'll do something.

    If the game gets to that point in the future, then this isn't a bad way to go, I just don't think we're there yet.

    That said, "yes, please?" It'd be kinda cool, and a nice gesture.

    Very true! I just know Guild Wars 2 is doing something similar to this but with Daily rewards for keep signing into the game. And since everyone is super upset over this whole crown crate situation i thought this could help or at least add some suggestion :)
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    • Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
  • starkerealm
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    They actually had Loyalty Rewards, but they stopped having it. Google it :)
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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)
    Edited by jedtb16_ESO on December 9, 2016 12:05AM
  • Abeille
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)

    Depends on who you ask. The stripped senche is the perfect mount for my stripped Khajiit, and is important to me because of that. I imagine other people might feel this way about stuff that is locked behind the crates, too. That puts the system OP is proposing and the old loyalty rewards at about the same level, in my opinion. Except for ZOS's intent, of course.
    Edited by Abeille on December 9, 2016 12:11AM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • andreasranasen
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)

    Depends on who you ask. The stripped senche is the perfect mount for my stripped Khajiit, and is important to me because of that. I imagine other people might feel this way about stuff that is locked behind the crates, too. That puts the system OP is proposing and the old loyalty rewards at about the same level, in my opinion. Except for ZOS's intent, of course.

    I am honored to have mighty Abeille liking my thread lolol :sunglasses:
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  • Unsent.Soul
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)

    Not game changers at all but different. You stand out and it's nice being rewarded for sticking with the same company instead of jumping ship everytime there seems to be an issue.

    I'm super jelly, I'm just a lonely console peasant and would love the spere, wraith, and especially the costume. I've worn the jester outfit in pvp with my templar for the better part of a year.

    Now I just look like a badass white walker...
  • Abeille
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)

    Depends on who you ask. The stripped senche is the perfect mount for my stripped Khajiit, and is important to me because of that. I imagine other people might feel this way about stuff that is locked behind the crates, too. That puts the system OP is proposing and the old loyalty rewards at about the same level, in my opinion. Except for ZOS's intent, of course.

    I am honored to have mighty Abeille liking my thread lolol :sunglasses:

    Okay, between you and @Alucardo I am starting to feel I am the subject of an inner joke :P
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)

    Not game changers at all but different. You stand out and it's nice being rewarded for sticking with the same company instead of jumping ship everytime there seems to be an issue.

    I'm super jelly, I'm just a lonely console peasant and would love the spere, wraith, and especially the costume. I've worn the jester outfit in pvp with my templar for the better part of a year.

    Now I just look like a badass white walker...

    being a fan of that scene i'd say that was cool.
  • jedtb16_ESO
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)

    Depends on who you ask. The stripped senche is the perfect mount for my stripped Khajiit, and is important to me because of that. I imagine other people might feel this way about stuff that is locked behind the crates, too. That puts the system OP is proposing and the old loyalty rewards at about the same level, in my opinion. Except for ZOS's intent, of course.

    rather than get into another 'discussion' about crates (i'd rather saw one of my legs off with a herring)

    i agree the senche is cool but it confers no advantage.... that was my point.

    perfect mount for the khajiit but does not turn her (or him) into catwoman.
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    perfect mount for the khajiit but does not turn her (or him) into catwoman.

    Well duh. Khajiit is already catwoman. If the mount also made Khajiit catwoman, the two would cancel each other out and you'd be left with a dog. :p
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."
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    It's called 1500 crowns.

    Your idea cuts into a profit margin.

    If you were to mention this idea in the boardroom, office, or bathroom where these decisions are made your best case scenerio is you would be laughed at uncontrollably worst case is why others are laughing the marketing and money people are staring at you intently whispering amongst themselves (and not to give you a promotion)
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Well here's the thing

    You get crowns for The sub so it's not making sense why they should give away money vs just buying crates with those crowns.

    When the game started we had Loyalty rewards, the longer you kept your sub you got rewards (that's what i heard). So this idea is simply to encourage people to get on, and encourage players to keep their subscription. If you cancel your ESO+ sub or it's getting interrupted your rewards reset back to Week1.

    ummm, i don't remember there being loyalty rewards at the start. you had to have a sub to play.

    There were four. The Dwemer Sphere pet, the Ice Wraith pet, the Sheogorath Jester outfit, and then the original Senche.

    yup... i had forgotten those.

    none of them exactly game changers though?

    i do use the senche mount for all my toons though

    hang on... the senche came after a year if i remember right (bear in mind you are dealing with a senior citizen here ok?)

    Depends on who you ask. The stripped senche is the perfect mount for my stripped Khajiit, and is important to me because of that. I imagine other people might feel this way about stuff that is locked behind the crates, too. That puts the system OP is proposing and the old loyalty rewards at about the same level, in my opinion. Except for ZOS's intent, of course.

    rather than get into another 'discussion' about crates (i'd rather saw one of my legs off with a herring)

    i agree the senche is cool but it confers no advantage.... that was my point.

    perfect mount for the khajiit but does not turn her (or him) into catwoman.

    But neither does the things in the crates. They are on the same level, they are important for the same reasons - because someone wants them for character customization purposes.

    On the last month before he b2p shift, there were people buying $150 in time cards to get the Senche.
    Edited by Abeille on December 9, 2016 12:57AM
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
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