Since over a year ago...

qsnoopyjr

I told ZOS to update the launcher to 4k resolution so I can see the advertisements in the launcher. ZOS has not done so. When I downloaded the launcher (TODAY) I got a message a new launcher is available. Meaning that ZOS was too lazy to go on their website and delete the old launcher and put in the new launcher. Lastly, the game isnt compatible with 4k. Sure it works, but you CANNOT read anything unless you have a microscope over your chat box.

Point blank, its been over a year and 4k is becoming the norm, ZOS hasn't done anything about it. Start being a leader and make people follow your lead instead of waiting for the other MMO's to become 4k compatible and then you make decisions.

Tandor

Maybe if you'd asked them to do something instead of telling them to do so they'd have listened more attentively?

I know we live in the Age of Entitlement but, seriously, your whole post reeks of arrogant self-importance.

Egonieser

Chat box and text size can be adjusted you know so can any other UI element via "UI scale" slider, I play in 4k and it works just fine.

Voxicity

Should've gone to specsavers

JasonSilverSpring

They have still not fixed the launcher in 4k but there is a fairly easy fix to force it to scale. I will post when I get home later.

lagrue

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

I told ZOS to update the launcher to 4k resolution so I can see the advertisements in the launcher. ZOS has not done so. When I downloaded the launcher (TODAY) I got a message a new launcher is available. Meaning that ZOS was too lazy to go on their website and delete the old launcher and put in the new launcher. Lastly, the game isnt compatible with 4k. Sure it works, but you CANNOT read anything unless you have a microscope over your chat box.

Point blank, its been over a year and 4k is becoming the norm, ZOS hasn't done anything about it. Start being a leader and make people follow your lead instead of waiting for the other MMO's to become 4k compatible and then you make decisions.

Sucks to play PC now doesn't it. Get a 4k TV, end of.

The game is 4k, and stuff is readable - you just play on a pleb sized screen.

qsnoopyjr

One thing I am impressed with is the DLC, and how they can be bought. Reminds me of Everquest back in the days. Having to ask people if they have a certain expansion and so on. Compared to Guild Wars 2, ESO seems to be moving forward faster, it does seem like a better game, yet all of the MMO's I've played so far. No one has taken advantage of 4k as if they are all waiting for a LEADER to do so, so they can follow the leader like sheep.

Hence why, no MMORPG has voice, all of them you have to download teamspeak, ventrillo, mumble, etc etc etc.

Typical MMORPG following the leader like a sheep.

No one did anything about 4k? Nor will I
No one did anything about voice communications in game? Nor will I

Follow leader I shall.

One thing that will become huge, is when an MMORPG can take advantage of social media. One thing I find lacking in MMORPGs, is that they use to be social type game. Nowdays its all solo, solo solo solo. ZOS needs to embrace the original intent of MMORPGs to bring people together to play together to become sociable together.

Figuring out how to get people to come together via the means of social media, such as facebook, intsagram, twitter, twitch, youtube. That's whats going to make the next MMORPG huge.

Every sticken MMORPG has potential, so I aint going to say this MMORPG has potential. Whoever is going to be a leader is going to monopolize this target market of MMORPG players. Just like how APPLE dominates now, it becomes a leader in innovation.
Every MMORPG has what it takes, its just WHO WILL go that extra inch.

lagrue

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

One thing I am impressed with is the DLC, and how they can be bought. Reminds me of Everquest back in the days. Having to ask people if they have a certain expansion and so on. Compared to Guild Wars 2, ESO seems to be moving forward faster, it does seem like a better game, yet all of the MMO's I've played so far. No one has taken advantage of 4k as if they are all waiting for a LEADER to do so, so they can follow the leader like sheep.

Hence why, no MMORPG has voice, all of them you have to download teamspeak, ventrillo, mumble, etc etc etc.

Typical MMORPG following the leader like a sheep.

No one did anything about 4k? Nor will I
No one did anything about voice communications in game? Nor will I

Follow leader I shall.

What the hell are you honestly talking about MMOs not taking advantage of 4k? ESO does have 4k.

smh, unless I'm misunderstanding I just think you guys have no idea what game you're playing.

qsnoopyjr

lagrue wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

One thing I am impressed with is the DLC, and how they can be bought. Reminds me of Everquest back in the days. Having to ask people if they have a certain expansion and so on. Compared to Guild Wars 2, ESO seems to be moving forward faster, it does seem like a better game, yet all of the MMO's I've played so far. No one has taken advantage of 4k as if they are all waiting for a LEADER to do so, so they can follow the leader like sheep.

Hence why, no MMORPG has voice, all of them you have to download teamspeak, ventrillo, mumble, etc etc etc.

Typical MMORPG following the leader like a sheep.

No one did anything about 4k? Nor will I
No one did anything about voice communications in game? Nor will I

Follow leader I shall.

What the hell are you honestly talking about MMOs not taking advantage of 4k? ESO does have 4k.

smh, unless I'm misunderstanding I just think you guys have no idea what game you're playing.

Course it has 4k.

Do this, with your regular settings right now. Stand 10 feet away from it. You can still see everything right? Now try and read your chat box. Thats how the chat box looks in 4k.

All the text is like fine print. You cant read it unless you 100% focus on it.

SHADOW2KK

I am sure ZoS will really appreciate you ordering them to do stuff, and also your very valuable insights into how to run their operations.

So from now on, we can all get to blame you for everything that goes wrong OP ok

lagrue

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

lagrue wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

One thing I am impressed with is the DLC, and how they can be bought. Reminds me of Everquest back in the days. Having to ask people if they have a certain expansion and so on. Compared to Guild Wars 2, ESO seems to be moving forward faster, it does seem like a better game, yet all of the MMO's I've played so far. No one has taken advantage of 4k as if they are all waiting for a LEADER to do so, so they can follow the leader like sheep.

Hence why, no MMORPG has voice, all of them you have to download teamspeak, ventrillo, mumble, etc etc etc.

Typical MMORPG following the leader like a sheep.

No one did anything about 4k? Nor will I
No one did anything about voice communications in game? Nor will I

Follow leader I shall.

What the hell are you honestly talking about MMOs not taking advantage of 4k? ESO does have 4k.

smh, unless I'm misunderstanding I just think you guys have no idea what game you're playing.

Course it has 4k.

Do this, with your regular settings right now. Stand 10 feet away from it. You can still see everything right? Now try and read your chat box. Thats how the chat box looks in 4k.

All the text is like fine print. You cant read it unless you 100% focus on it.

Yes I can because I own a 4k TV that's 50 inches lol, not a 23 inch computer monitor. 4k and higher resolutions were always intended for larger screens - sure they give better latency on smaller screens - but lol

qsnoopyjr

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

I am sure ZoS will really appreciate you ordering them to do stuff, and also your very valuable insights into how to run their operations.

So from now on, we can all get to blame you for everything that goes wrong OP ok

Nothing will go wrong if they listen, because I don't ask for much and let them do whatever they enjoy doing.

Make game 4k playable, as in I can read chat, patcher, everything in 4k.

Quit being lazy and delete the old patcher and put in the new patcher on your website.

Add voice communication to this game.

That sure isnt much if you ask me. 2 of those things gives this game an edge over other games like Guild Wars 2, because they arent 4k playable either, you can play in 4k but you cannot read chat, patcher, etc. hence not 4k playable. Voice chat? Guild Wars 2 does not have either, nor does any other MMORPG I know of.

If anything, it gives ESO a comparative advantage over other MMORPGs, which increases population, makes consumers feel like the game is getting better by the day.

Lexxypwns

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

I am sure ZoS will really appreciate you ordering them to do stuff, and also your very valuable insights into how to run their operations.

So from now on, we can all get to blame you for everything that goes wrong OP ok

Nothing will go wrong if they listen, because I don't ask for much and let them do whatever they enjoy doing.

Make game 4k playable, as in I can read chat, patcher, everything in 4k.

Quit being lazy and delete the old patcher and put in the new patcher on your website.

Add voice communication to this game.

That sure isnt much if you ask me. 2 of those things gives this game an edge over other games like Guild Wars 2, because they arent 4k playable either, you can play in 4k but you cannot read chat, patcher, etc. hence not 4k playable. Voice chat? Guild Wars 2 does not have either, nor does any other MMORPG I know of.

If anything, it gives ESO a comparative advantage over other MMORPGs, which increases population, makes consumers feel like the game is getting better by the day.

eso has built in voice chat on 2/3 of its servers...

Dredlord

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

I told ZOS to update the launcher to 4k resolution so I can see the advertisements in the launcher. ZOS has not done so. When I downloaded the launcher (TODAY) I got a message a new launcher is available. Meaning that ZOS was too lazy to go on their website and delete the old launcher and put in the new launcher. Lastly, the game isnt compatible with 4k. Sure it works, but you CANNOT read anything unless you have a microscope over your chat box.

Point blank, its been over a year and 4k is becoming the norm, ZOS hasn't done anything about it. Start being a leader and make people follow your lead instead of waiting for the other MMO's to become 4k compatible and then you make decisions.

My text is fine on 4k, maybe your monitor doesnt do chroma 4:4:4 at 60?

JasonSilverSpring

I think most of you are missing that @qsnoopyjr is referring to the ESO launcher, not the actual game. I also have the issue with the launcher but fixed it by using the guide here:

http://www.danantonielli.com/adobe-app-scaling-on-high-dpi-displays-fix/

Make sure you do the registry change as well and then the ESO launcher will properly scale. It will not be as good as if ESO properly scaled for high DPI display but at least it will be readable. I use the trick on other programs such as Minion as well.

Hope this helps you with the launcher.

I do agree that the actual game once in it works well in 4K. They fixed a long-standing issue with tiny icons on the map around the time 1T came out finally. I do wish there was an option to adjust the size as they are a tad too large now.

SirAndy

Tandor wrote: »

Maybe if you'd asked them to do something instead of telling them to do so they'd have listened more attentively?
I know we live in the Age of Entitlement but, seriously, your whole post reeks of arrogant self-importance.

QFT

Nyghthowler

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Hence why, no MMORPG has voice, all of them you have to download teamspeak, ventrillo, mumble, etc etc etc.

Wrong again. EQ2 introduced built in voice chat with LU47 way back in July 2008.

qsnoopyjr

Lexxypwns wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

I am sure ZoS will really appreciate you ordering them to do stuff, and also your very valuable insights into how to run their operations.

So from now on, we can all get to blame you for everything that goes wrong OP ok

Nothing will go wrong if they listen, because I don't ask for much and let them do whatever they enjoy doing.

Make game 4k playable, as in I can read chat, patcher, everything in 4k.

Quit being lazy and delete the old patcher and put in the new patcher on your website.

Add voice communication to this game.

That sure isnt much if you ask me. 2 of those things gives this game an edge over other games like Guild Wars 2, because they arent 4k playable either, you can play in 4k but you cannot read chat, patcher, etc. hence not 4k playable. Voice chat? Guild Wars 2 does not have either, nor does any other MMORPG I know of.

If anything, it gives ESO a comparative advantage over other MMORPGs, which increases population, makes consumers feel like the game is getting better by the day.

eso has built in voice chat on 2/3 of its servers...

Servers? 2/3?

NA Server and EU Server have no voice communications.

Platforms?
PC, PS4, Xboxone?

Yes, its mandatory that PS4 and Xboxone have voice chat.

If ESO is just "getting by" thats enough to "just get by"

qsnoopyjr

Dredlord wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

I told ZOS to update the launcher to 4k resolution so I can see the advertisements in the launcher. ZOS has not done so. When I downloaded the launcher (TODAY) I got a message a new launcher is available. Meaning that ZOS was too lazy to go on their website and delete the old launcher and put in the new launcher. Lastly, the game isnt compatible with 4k. Sure it works, but you CANNOT read anything unless you have a microscope over your chat box.

Point blank, its been over a year and 4k is becoming the norm, ZOS hasn't done anything about it. Start being a leader and make people follow your lead instead of waiting for the other MMO's to become 4k compatible and then you make decisions.

My text is fine on 4k, maybe your monitor doesnt do chroma 4:4:4 at 60?

My text is fine. Has nothing to do with how nicely it is displayed, it is displayed VERY NICE in fine print. However, it has everything to do with the 'size' of the text.

Fine print is fine print, no matter what color it is, what brightness it is.

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

I think most of you are missing that @qsnoopyjr is referring to the ESO launcher, not the actual game. I also have the issue with the launcher but fixed it by using the guide here:

http://www.danantonielli.com/adobe-app-scaling-on-high-dpi-displays-fix/

Make sure you do the registry change as well and then the ESO launcher will properly scale. It will not be as good as if ESO properly scaled for high DPI display but at least it will be readable. I use the trick on other programs such as Minion as well.

Hope this helps you with the launcher.

I do agree that the actual game once in it works well in 4K. They fixed a long-standing issue with tiny icons on the map around the time 1T came out finally. I do wish there was an option to adjust the size as they are a tad too large now.

Yep, pretty much this.
They did good job at explaining how to do the regedit part.
But when they talk about making a manifest copy of the file... Lost me, no steps, does not work since no steps.
What I did with the launcher was copy, pasted it, renamed to GameConsultant.exe.manifest, run a test screen pops up, does absolutely nothing. GG, your steps can not be followed and further work needs to be done.

It's very sad how, these days you get an amazing computer, the game cannot handle your resolution, as in the text is larger, but its worse quality since its just a humongous normal resolution text. What I call laziness to make a 4k resolution text.

Back in my days, you get a brand new high quality PC, you sit in awe of how amazing everything looks. You didn't spend time downgrading all your settings because the game couldn't handle the newest resolution. Instead, back in my days, you spent time maximizing all your settings with a giant smile on your face.

qsnoopyjr

Just for the record, its not just ESO.

This is my review of them after 1 year, and them doing anything to support 4k... No changes, still waiting for an MMORPG leader to take the first steps.

After 1 year, no voice chat, still waiting for an MMORPG leader to take the first steps.

Voice communication is what will make MMORPGs innovative. You look at GW2, you look at ESO, you look at Everquest, you look at World of Warcraft. What do people do most in the MMORPG?? SOLO.

Making solo content isnt the way to go. Everyone is doing it, and every MMORPG has tons of people saying "its dying", because everyone plays by themselves and not enough people que up in the LFG system that every one of them has. There is no, let me look at my friends list and ask people to join our group. Its now become, let me get the LFG system up and we wait.

You have to make the game more friendly to group, to making friends, to playing with friends. Voice communication only helps, not hinders this process. And common trait between all those 'I just solo' is because there is no voice communications.

You look at games that people play with friends, typically xbox, ps4, because there is voice communications, people get to know others, the play with friend ratio is higher in xbox and ps4 than it is on pc version.

PC versions of everything must be called "solo" version, because marketers see a lot of solo so they make solo content, rather than understand what an MMORPG is, and understand that it should be played with friends and solo content isnt the way to go.

Game needs to be more rewarding when you play with people on your friends list, so it encourages people to make friends and play with the same people. This brings longevity into the game, and when you have friends around you, it feels less like its a dying game, because you rely on your friends rather than concentrate on how fast the LFG system works.

JasonSilverSpring

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Dredlord wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

I told ZOS to update the launcher to 4k resolution so I can see the advertisements in the launcher. ZOS has not done so. When I downloaded the launcher (TODAY) I got a message a new launcher is available. Meaning that ZOS was too lazy to go on their website and delete the old launcher and put in the new launcher. Lastly, the game isnt compatible with 4k. Sure it works, but you CANNOT read anything unless you have a microscope over your chat box.

Point blank, its been over a year and 4k is becoming the norm, ZOS hasn't done anything about it. Start being a leader and make people follow your lead instead of waiting for the other MMO's to become 4k compatible and then you make decisions.

My text is fine on 4k, maybe your monitor doesnt do chroma 4:4:4 at 60?

My text is fine. Has nothing to do with how nicely it is displayed, it is displayed VERY NICE in fine print. However, it has everything to do with the 'size' of the text.

Fine print is fine print, no matter what color it is, what brightness it is.

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

I think most of you are missing that @qsnoopyjr is referring to the ESO launcher, not the actual game. I also have the issue with the launcher but fixed it by using the guide here:

http://www.danantonielli.com/adobe-app-scaling-on-high-dpi-displays-fix/

Make sure you do the registry change as well and then the ESO launcher will properly scale. It will not be as good as if ESO properly scaled for high DPI display but at least it will be readable. I use the trick on other programs such as Minion as well.

Hope this helps you with the launcher.

I do agree that the actual game once in it works well in 4K. They fixed a long-standing issue with tiny icons on the map around the time 1T came out finally. I do wish there was an option to adjust the size as they are a tad too large now.

Yep, pretty much this.
They did good job at explaining how to do the regedit part.
But when they talk about making a manifest copy of the file... Lost me, no steps, does not work since no steps.
What I did with the launcher was copy, pasted it, renamed to GameConsultant.exe.manifest, run a test screen pops up, does absolutely nothing. GG, your steps can not be followed and further work needs to be done.

It's very sad how, these days you get an amazing computer, the game cannot handle your resolution, as in the text is larger, but its worse quality since its just a humongous normal resolution text. What I call laziness to make a 4k resolution text.

Back in my days, you get a brand new high quality PC, you sit in awe of how amazing everything looks. You didn't spend time downgrading all your settings because the game couldn't handle the newest resolution. Instead, back in my days, you spent time maximizing all your settings with a giant smile on your face.

@qsnoopyjr, sorry, I should have posted this as well. The file that you need to create is Bethesda.net_Launcher.exe.manifest, which needs to be in the same folder as Bethesda.net_Launcher.exe is (should be C:\Program Files (x86)\Zenimax Online\Launcher if you left at default).

The contents of that file should be:

<assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" manifestVersion="1.0">
<dependency>
<dependentAssembly>
<assemblyIdentity type="win32" name="Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls" version="6.0.0.0" processorArchitecture="x86" publicKeyToken="6595b64144ccf1df" language="*"></assemblyIdentity>
</dependentAssembly>
</dependency>
<trustInfo xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v2">
<security>
<requestedPrivileges>
<requestedExecutionLevel level="asInvoker" uiAccess="false"></requestedExecutionLevel>
</requestedPrivileges>
</security>
</trustInfo>
<compatibility xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:compatibility.v1">
<application>

<supportedOS Id="{1f676c76-80e1-4239-95bb-83d0f6d0da78}"></supportedOS>

<supportedOS Id="{e2011457-1546-43c5-a5fe-008deee3d3f0}"></supportedOS>

<supportedOS Id="{35138b9a-5d96-4fbd-8e2d-a2440225f93a}"></supportedOS>

<supportedOS Id="{4a2f28e3-53b9-4441-ba9c-d69d4a4a6e38}"></supportedOS>
</application>
</compatibility>
<asmv3:application xmlns:asmv3="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v3">
<asmv3:windowsSettings xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/SMI/2005/WindowsSettings"&gt;
<dpiAware>false</dpiAware>
</asmv3:windowsSettings>
</asmv3:application>
</assembly>

The <dpiAware> part is what is changed from the default of true. Hopefully this will help you sort that part out.