Crown Crates: So yeah, I caved

IrishGirlGamer

This thread will probably be closed, but after protesting the entry of crown crates into the game, I caved and bought a bunch. This is no excuse, but I really wanted the Imperial costume for one of my characters. I missed it when it was pulled from the Crown Store by one day. So the only way to get it was to buy crown crates and so ... yeah. I bought some.

I spent 5000 that I had in crowns saved up from subbing and bought another 5000 crowns. And did I get the costumes? Well yeah, after I bought them with gems (I got one in the cards). Did I get a bunch of cool stuff?

No. I got some hats I won't wear. I got some pets I don't like. I didn't even get the cool pets, like the little wolf or the Markarth dog. I got the soul shriven costumes (which, what the **** are they doing in here!!! Really?). Anyway, I have the motif, so yeah. Some Argonian facial features ... okay. A frilly dress which I will NEVER wear.

I ended up buying the costumes I wanted and the Cloud Senche, which was the only other thing I even marginally wanted. All this to get a few silly costumes.

And not a single legendary mount. Not one.

Lesson learned - on so many levels. I think I need a break from this game.

JD2013

If you feel like you need to take a break then do so. Don't feel bad, I caved and bought 6. I was just incredibly lucky with what I got.

We all need a break sometimes. Do come back though as I genuinely enjoy reading your posts and back and forthing with you on occasion.

Do come back for the New Life Festival or Update 13! Actual new content makes things seem even fresher after a break.

Lunarhound

I hear you. I threw some unused crowns at them and came away with mixed feelings. I'm not as against crates as some of the people here, and I actually did get what I wanted (believe it or not, the only thing I really had any interest in was the felt bycocket. I kind of like the wizard hat as well, but I'll never use it if they don't add hair), but considering the number of crowns I used (5000), and how much that would've been if I'd spent real money, I felt like the haul I ended up with was lackluster. And even after cashing in all consumables and and drawing a number of duplicates, I didn't get anywhere near enough gems for an apex mount. I was kind of hoping they'd be a fun thing to spend crowns on occasionally, but with the drop rates and low gem payouts what they are, I probably won't bother. I might reconsider if they cost about half of what they do, and I'm willing to reevaluate if they make more changes to the system in the future, but 400 a pop at the current payout? No thanks.

Cazzy

I still love ya. Sometimes we learn the hard way

SquareSausage

Well that was dumb wasn't it.

feeling sad after doing something you said was a bad idea....and finding out, yes it was a bad idea.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Obviously you just didnt buy enough! The only way to make yourself fell better is to keep buying crates until your cats dont get to eat for the week!

Alucardo

I'm really sorry to hear you had a rough time with the crates. This is one of the reasons I'm vehemently against gamble boxes - they leave people who lose out feeling demoralised and unsatisfied with their purchase. You should NEVER feel unsatisfied when you buy something from the crown store - you should always be able to buy exactly what you're after and leave a happy customer. But no, they don't work this way because you're at the mercy of the RNG.
If all these items were available as one off purchases (not in crates) I imagine the happiness to non-happiness ratio would be a great deal better, but hey, as long as ZOS is happy with scamming us, who cares right?
Sick of these *** crates making good people feel like crap.

JimT722

The sad thing is many of us loved giving ZOS our money for these items. We looked forward with excitement at what will be available. Just let us buy what we want.

KingYogi415

Cloud sench 2500, costume you wanted 700. Soul shriven 1500 a year ago, or more recently only available in a 5000 bundle pack.

When you add up all the stuff you got the value is there. It sucks not getting a atro, but does not make it a bad deal.

Like refining RNG changes over time, don't open more then 5 at once. Relog and try again.

Cheers!

JimT722

Alucardo wrote: »

I'm really sorry to hear you had a rough time with the crates. This is one of the reasons I'm vehemently against gamble boxes - they leave people who lose out feeling demoralised and unsatisfied with their purchase. You should NEVER feel unsatisfied when you buy something from the crown store - you should always be able to buy exactly what you're after and leave a happy customer. But no, they don't work this way because you're at the mercy of the RNG.
If all these items were available as one off purchases (not in crates) I imagine the happiness to non-happiness ratio would be a great deal better, but hey, as long as ZOS is happy with scamming us, who cares right?
Sick of these *** crates making good people feel like crap.

I bought a huge bundle of rng crates in SWTOR. I got nothing interesting and felt the same way after dropping like $40. Never felt like such an idiot with a purchase. Felt like I just flushed $40 bucks down the toilet.

Rohamad_Ali

Don't beat yourself up . There's plenty of people in Cyrodiil to do that for you

So you learned a lesson . The hard parts over . Go back to having fun now . None of Us are going to beat you up so let it go .

Alucardo

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Cloud sench 2500, costume you wanted 700. Soul shriven 1500 a year ago, or more recently only available in a 5000 bundle pack.

When you add up all the stuff you got the value is there. It sucks not getting a atro, but does not make it a bad deal.

Like refining RNG changes over time, don't open more then 5 at once. Relog and try again.

Cheers!

Value is subjective. If you don't get what you want, then it's worth nothing. Sounds to me like she bought a costume for 10k crowns, because that's all she was after.

Rohamad_Ali

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Cloud sench 2500, costume you wanted 700. Soul shriven 1500 a year ago, or more recently only available in a 5000 bundle pack.

When you add up all the stuff you got the value is there. It sucks not getting a atro, but does not make it a bad deal.

Like refining RNG changes over time, don't open more then 5 at once. Relog and try again.

Cheers!

I heard you have to log out , spin in your chair three times , knock on the desk and say Abrokapokus Hokiscadabra ! , then log back in to get the best RNG .

Cazzy

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Cloud sench 2500, costume you wanted 700. Soul shriven 1500 a year ago, or more recently only available in a 5000 bundle pack.

When you add up all the stuff you got the value is there. It sucks not getting a atro, but does not make it a bad deal.

Like refining RNG changes over time, don't open more then 5 at once. Relog and try again.

Cheers!

I heard you have to log out , spin in your chair three times , knock on the desk and say Abrokapokus Hokiscadabra ! , then log back in to get the best RNG .

- and have a mouse nest in your hair at the same time. It won't work otherwise

KingYogi415

I missed the part about buying another 5k crowns. I wonder if PC has worse crown box drops rates, because most of my friends on ps4, got 2 mounts in 15 boxes, 1 atro.

And whenever I read threads about "I deconed 1000+ raw mats and got nothing." I just shake my head. RNG varying in different "micro-shard" servers is very real. If I don't get a gold mat is 120 raw mats I log off.

I will try the Abrokapokus Hokiscadabra just in case though, thanks!

ArchMikem

Some people just need to learn the hard way.

Sigma957

You never know until you try I got 30 of them crates and got no atro mount but I did get my pit wolf after trading in the s*** and some other legendary items.

Korah_Eaglecry

No judgement here. I can understand the temptation. Ive done it in other games where I saw something I really wanted and before I knew it more money than I would ever part with was gone and I had nothing to show for it. Its why I hate these things so much because I know that its a truely unfair exchange between the company and the customer/consumer.

Callous2208

Rp buddy just came back from vacation. Bought the 4 back. Got 3 Atro mounts, all the memento/emote stuff. RnmothertruckinG.

Pallmor

See, it's stories like this that demonstrate exactly why MMO developers implement cash-bought treasure chests in the first place. In Neverwinter, you get unlimited "lockboxes" for free, but the keys will cost you real-world money. I've seen people in my guild literally buy dozens of keys a month (they run about $1 in real-world money) in addition to subscribing (for one key per day), all to try for that big epic mount of their dreams.*

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that ZOS made more in the first month off these Crown Crates than they've made in the last year off everything else. That's how lucrative the are (and how addictive for many players).

As for me, I've bought exactly 0. And it's going to stay that way because, having played other games with these, I know better. That epic mount is never going to come for the vast majority of players.

* Now let me tell you the second part of the con. Neverwinter always made it a point of publicizing those rare players who did get an epic drop from a lockbox. In fact, whenever someone would get an epic drop from a lockbox, a system-wide notification message was sent out to all players (and there was no option to turn it off). This encouraged everyone else to think these drops were common, to keep them buying keys. Pretty clever psychology there, huh?

FortheloveofKrist

You dug your own grave and have nobody to blame but yourself. You got scammed.

Sorry, but the truth hurts.

Valethar

Pallmor wrote: »

* Now let me tell you the second part of the con. Neverwinter always made it a point of publicizing those rare players who did get an epic drop from a lockbox. In fact, whenever someone would get an epic drop from a lockbox, a system-wide notification message was sent out to all players (and there was no option to turn it off). This encouraged everyone else to think these drops were common, to keep them buying keys. Pretty clever psychology there, huh?

Cryptic/PWE does the same thing for STO.

It's a psychology game. They know they're being shady, they just don't care, because there's no law against ripping people off in this fashion. Until there is, the fleecing of the sheep will continue unabated.

DrkHunter86

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

This thread will probably be closed, but after protesting the entry of crown crates into the game, I caved and bought a bunch. This is no excuse, but I really wanted the Imperial costume for one of my characters. I missed it when it was pulled from the Crown Store by one day. So the only way to get it was to buy crown crates and so ... yeah. I bought some.

I spent 5000 that I had in crowns saved up from subbing and bought another 5000 crowns. And did I get the costumes? Well yeah, after I bought them with gems (I got one in the cards). Did I get a bunch of cool stuff?

No. I got some hats I won't wear. I got some pets I don't like. I didn't even get the cool pets, like the little wolf or the Markarth dog. I got the soul shriven costumes (which, what the **** are they doing in here!!! Really?). Anyway, I have the motif, so yeah. Some Argonian facial features ... okay. A frilly dress which I will NEVER wear.

I ended up buying the costumes I wanted and the Cloud Senche, which was the only other thing I even marginally wanted. All this to get a few silly costumes.

And not a single legendary mount. Not one.

Lesson learned - on so many levels. I think I need a break from this game.

Same here. I cancelled my sub. As much as I love this game I really hope zos loses there a$$e$ on this one. Stingy worthless trash company they are. I'm livid. I get its an rng system but the odds and gem conversion is just ***. Sickens me too no end. Definitely done with eso for a long time. Again I hate you so with every essence of my being.

Ourorboros

At least posting your experience may help others in their resolve not to give in to the crate temptation. I'm just glad the Ice Wolf mount will not be locked in crates like the Red Wolf mount. If it had, I still wouldn't have bought crates (not in my budget), but I would have been pretty irate at zos. It amazes me how much players are willing to pay for vanity.

Lunarhound

My girlfriend just spent this month's 1500 sub allowance plus the 850 she had lying around on 6 crates. She hit the Atronach Guar, which was the EXACT thing she wanted, on the third try. Among the other crates, she also drew one of the battlemage outfits and the evening dress, which she wanted but had been hesitant to spend crowns on. In the final crate, she drew the felt bycocket, which was the only other crate exclusive besides the atronach guar that she wanted. She is now firmly convinced that the crates are the best thing ever. She doesn't read these forums, but she knew from me that they were controversial. She's convinced they can't possibly be as bad as all that, because there's no way she could've gotten lucky enough to get everything she wanted in just six crates.

I'm not as against them as some others here, but I'm under no illusions about the chances of actually getting what you want. I hope she doesn't start dropping a bunch of money for them because of one lucky run.

Waffennacht

Lunarhound wrote: »

My girlfriend just spent this month's 1500 sub allowance plus the 850 she had lying around on 6 crates. She hit the Atronach Guar, which was the EXACT thing she wanted, on the third try. Among the other crates, she also drew one of the battlemage outfits and the evening dress, which she wanted but had been hesitant to spend crowns on. In the final crate, she drew the felt bycocket, which was the only other crate exclusive besides the atronach guar that she wanted. She is now firmly convinced that the crates are the best thing ever. She doesn't read these forums, but she knew from me that they were controversial. She's convinced they can't possibly be as bad as all that, because there's no way she could've gotten lucky enough to get everything she wanted in just six crates.

I'm not as against them as some others here, but I'm under no illusions about the chances of actually getting what you want. I hope she doesn't start dropping a bunch of money for them because of one lucky run.

See that's the difference, she was going to be happy with many of the possible drops. Most people that I read that are very unhappy actually got things that would make me very happy. I typically see, "I only wanted X. Sure I got B and Z but I hate B and Z." If you like X B and Z or X and B you're much more likely to be satisfied

Drummerx04

Yeah I caved and bought 2 crates with my sub crowns... got 6 potions, a hat, and a tattoo. I stopped because I've ran too many vMA clears to not see where this one was going.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

So many of these stories are starting to sound like the gold buying stories...

My friend got suspended for buying gold but He told me he doesnt!!

My friend got 10 atronauch mounts in 5 packs! He is so lucky!!!

Agobi

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

So many of these stories are starting to sound like the gold buying stories...

My friend got suspended for buying gold but He told me he doesnt!!

My friend got 10 atronauch mounts in 5 packs! He is so lucky!!!

Hey!

I bought one crate and got 4 legen---wait for it....dary! mounts,a Costume of Awesomeness™,and a Willy Wonka Golden ticket aswell

Truestory o.O

Kendaric

IrishGirlGamer wrote: »

This thread will probably be closed, but after protesting the entry of crown crates into the game, I caved and bought a bunch. This is no excuse, but I really wanted the Imperial costume for one of my characters. I missed it when it was pulled from the Crown Store by one day. So the only way to get it was to buy crown crates and so ... yeah. I bought some.

I spent 5000 that I had in crowns saved up from subbing and bought another 5000 crowns. And did I get the costumes? Well yeah, after I bought them with gems (I got one in the cards). Did I get a bunch of cool stuff?

No. I got some hats I won't wear. I got some pets I don't like. I didn't even get the cool pets, like the little wolf or the Markarth dog. I got the soul shriven costumes (which, what the **** are they doing in here!!! Really?). Anyway, I have the motif, so yeah. Some Argonian facial features ... okay. A frilly dress which I will NEVER wear.

I ended up buying the costumes I wanted and the Cloud Senche, which was the only other thing I even marginally wanted. All this to get a few silly costumes.

And not a single legendary mount. Not one.

Lesson learned - on so many levels. I think I need a break from this game.

Shame on you. Shame. Shame. Shame.

You'll need new crowns now for the winter stuff since you wasted 10k on scam crates.

Kildayen

I have money to waste, so I went to town. I purchased 120 crown crates with 40,000 crowns. Got the crowns when they were on sale, so I spent about $190. Video is a bit long because I didn't edit it. You can watch it in its entirety to see my drop rate or you can skip to the end to see what I got.

https://youtu.be/Ts1mOJDfCzk