Sets that buff specific moves

Koolio

Just curious what everyone here would think of this.
5 piece bonuses that increase the duration of invisibility to 6 secs
Or increase dark flare defile by 25-50%
Increase hardened ward duration 75%
Increase Dk Wings duration by 100%

Maybe there is other issues to this but wanted some ideas/opinions

Unsent.Soul

I think those 4 examples are not the best 5th piece set bonus. Compared to other 5th bonuses, those are rather lack luster.

Tryxus

5pc Bonus: Makes Cloak actually work

I'd wear that

Koolio

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

I think those 4 examples are not the best 5th piece set bonus. Compared to other 5th bonuses, those are rather lack luster.

I have plenty of ideas just didn't want them to be OP
5pc crystal frags are always procced
5pc Merciless resolve requires 2 light attacks
5pc increase Aoe of Blazing spear to 10m
5pc if enemy dies Eclipse moves to nearby target
5pc Noxious Breath heals everyone for 50% dmg

Toast_STS

5 pc Increase the damage of your Soul Trap abilities by 100% sounds op............

Koolio

Still wondering if anyone else would like this. Maybe these examples aren't the best. But why not add something like this.

Jitterbug

Tryxus wrote: »

5pc Bonus: Makes Cloak actually work

I'd wear that

nerf!

Gilvoth

Koolio wrote: »

Just curious what everyone here would think of this.
5 piece bonuses that increase the duration of invisibility to 6 secs

i like the sound of that,and i would love to craft that armor and wear it with that 5 piece bonus on it.

Koolio

Like Templar Javelin now travels to 3 people knocking them all down. These kind of builds would be awesome. You would build around one move so balancing would be tricky.

NewBlacksmurf

I think the skill specific set bonus ideas aren't overall any good because it's too limited.

Perhaps think broader for effects detailed on aligning with the effects of a skill or the category it falls under looking at champion passives or skill effects (magic, physical, elemental) or (melee, ranged) and concepts such as main stats like (health, stamina, magic) effects

Koolio

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I think the skill specific set bonus ideas aren't overall any good because it's too limited.

Perhaps think broader for effects detailed on aligning with the effects of a skill or the category it falls under looking at champion passives or skill effects (magic, physical, elemental) or (melee, ranged) and concepts such as main stats like (health, stamina, magic) effects

I just figured it would be limited for balance purposes. You would be getting all you gear to increase one move in particular. So you couldn't be great at everything. Make them craftable so it would buff crafting market.

NewBlacksmurf

Koolio wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I think the skill specific set bonus ideas aren't overall any good because it's too limited.

Perhaps think broader for effects detailed on aligning with the effects of a skill or the category it falls under looking at champion passives or skill effects (magic, physical, elemental) or (melee, ranged) and concepts such as main stats like (health, stamina, magic) effects

I just figured it would be limited for balance purposes. You would be getting all you gear to increase one move in particular. So you couldn't be great at everything. Make them craftable so it would buff crafting market.

@Koolio

Doing it that way would make you great at everything. In a group imagine a trial with each person having two or three OP skills.

Consider some DPS rotations are fairly basic of 3-4 skills.

Imagine one of your suggested sets mixed with another cause you can have two 5 set bonuses and add in a willpower set or something for a three piece bonus and that's waaaay OP in my opinion but for PvE it'll be awesome.
PvP would whine

souravami

5th piece bonus: increase radiant destruction damage by 100%.
Now we're talking.

Koolio

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I think the skill specific set bonus ideas aren't overall any good because it's too limited.

Perhaps think broader for effects detailed on aligning with the effects of a skill or the category it falls under looking at champion passives or skill effects (magic, physical, elemental) or (melee, ranged) and concepts such as main stats like (health, stamina, magic) effects

I just figured it would be limited for balance purposes. You would be getting all you gear to increase one move in particular. So you couldn't be great at everything. Make them craftable so it would buff crafting market.

@Koolio

Doing it that way would make you great at everything. In a group imagine a trial with each person having two or three OP skills.

Consider some DPS rotations are fairly basic of 3-4 skills.

Imagine one of your suggested sets mixed with another cause you can have two 5 set bonuses and add in a willpower set or something for a three piece bonus and that's waaaay OP in my opinion but for PvE it'll be awesome.
PvP would whine

Obviously things would need to be worked out for balancing. I just figured it would help flood the market of sets. Although I do appreciate the criticism. Maybe something like hard casting Crystal instantly procs a frag. Maybe even only do it on moves that arent used. It was just an idea I had a while back. And I thought about it again today. Like Brawler now hits in a 360 like steel tornado.

geonsocal

I think it's coolio @Koolio ...hopefully at some point the craftable sets get a major overhaul/upgrade...

having sets with the 5 pc bonus focused on enhancing one or two very select abilities would be great...

I'm thinking a set that buffs the jesus beam to compensate for the upcoming nerf would be outstanding...

Koolio

geonsocal wrote: »

I think it's coolio @Koolio ...hopefully at some point the craftable sets get a major overhaul/upgrade...

having sets with the 5 pc bonus focused on enhancing one or two very select abilities would be great...

I'm thinking a set that buffs the jesus beam to compensate for the upcoming nerf would be outstanding...

Like Jesus beam now stuns on the last tick. Or interrupts. Have Jesus became wars LOL

NewBlacksmurf

I'll say this tho

Don't back down on your ideas totally cause what makes a ton of sense is if for PvE and PvP any existing set could spike out specific skill effects depending on the environment


Imagine in your example the set varies PvP to PvE
That's something everyone would enjoy and we wouldn't have these nerfs as explained in their last ESO Live Friday

Malamar1229

should address the unpopular and undesirable morphs

Koolio

Malamar1229 wrote: »

should address the unpopular and undesirable morphs

Got some good feedback on the Facebook for this.
5pc Pets stay Summoned for 1 min refreshed if 5 pcs active
5pc Inner Fire AOE taunt
5pcs Panacea Applys to 6 target
5pc Destructive Touch Heals

Koolio

Koolio wrote: »

Malamar1229 wrote: »

should address the unpopular and undesirable morphs

Got some good feedback on the Facebook for this.
5pc Pets stay Summoned for 1 min refreshed if 5 pcs active
5pc Inner Fire AOE taunt
5pcs Panacea Applys to 6 target
5pc Destructive Touch Heals

Things that people want that they aren't going to change.

Metafae

Tryxus wrote: »

5pc Bonus: Makes Cloak actually work

I'd wear that

I hear that the Crusader set does this, you just have to dodge-roll before activating Cloak.
The extra dodge time makes it so you don't get pulled back out by lag related projectile nonsense.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

5th piece: Wrecking blow now also stuns and knocks back whilst being empowered...
Just like before

SnubbS

5pc Wrecking Blow is now insta-cast and therefore usable on console during peak hours.

Mr_Apollo

Koolio wrote: »

Unsent.Soul wrote: »

I think those 4 examples are not the best 5th piece set bonus. Compared to other 5th bonuses, those are rather lack luster.

I have plenty of ideas just didn't want them to be OP
5pc crystal frags are always procced
5pc Merciless resolve requires 2 light attacks
5pc increase Aoe of Blazing spear to 10m
5pc if enemy dies Eclipse moves to nearby target
5pc Noxious Breath heals everyone for 50% dmg

Yes...lets give sorcerers a cheap spammable ability that can easily do 15k damage...all of those are quite Overpowered yes. And don't get me started on noxious breath cause it deals poison damage, and adding the healing factor just wouldn't make sense. Not to mention you're focusing on skills. 5pcs shouldn't affect a singular ability, making it useless for other classes. Don't you agree?

geonsocal

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

5th piece: Wrecking blow now also stuns and knocks back whilst being empowered...
Just like before

I remember when I first started pvping toward the end of '15...I couldn't wait to level up and get wrecking blow - great move...had it for a couple of months and then they nerfed it

Kuroinu

Wrecking Blow 5th Set Bonus: Wrecking Blow is now able to be activated from 22m or less and will launch you toward the opponent. When it connects it knocks the enemy back twice as far as the distance traveled. The target also suffers fall damage depending on the distance knocked back.

Yeaaaaah! This would be too much fun in PvP, but also would make me PvP a lot more due to the hilarity of launching people so far away. Maybe even remove the damage? Damn, I kinda want this to happen now...