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Transmog post no.100394: ZoS, you're missing out on a money maker with this one...

leothedino
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So, here's the deal... my set is finished. Yes, I look like a mismatched backstreet peddling warrior without a shred of fashion sense, but my damage is great and I keep up in vets (I can also put a costume on, when I am fed up of looking like one of lady gaga's latest attractions). I am always trying for 'Master Crafter' too, but unless you put in a transmog system into this game, I actually don't have the foggiest clue why you keep bringing out new motifs! I don't care for them if I can't wear them, and I sure as hell won't go to the bother of choosing some poor under powered crafted set, over my dungeon sets.

Genuinely put, honest as I can be, whilst there is no way to lay the appearance of the motifs we've gone to the trouble to gather, grind for and learn, there is even less chance i'm going to pay for your new winter motif showcased today - http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2016/11/30/crown-store-showcase--november-30th-2016
Edited by leothedino on November 30, 2016 5:08PM

Transmog post no.100394: ZoS, you're missing out on a money maker with this one... 115 votes

Transmog please! I also agree that looking great makes me happy...
90% 104 votes
No transmog please, I don't want to look good or feel stylish!
9% 11 votes
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Perhaps before ppl bash your poll options....and heck no to any crown store options. This is base game only or no go.

    Consider that one perspective is that in order to change gear, the specific character would need to have the crafting passives that align with the gear.

    I've not seen a full out suggestion that makes sense. Just ppl asking for a feature incompletely.

    Here's what I mean:
    1. If you're wearing crafted gear and want to change it....only the crafter can change it based on their known motifs for free.
    -if the gear is changed by anyone other than the crafter, there is a material cost per item limited to known motif of the new crafter
    -if not a crafter, items must be paid to change from "x" NPC located in "y" that either requires content unlock or quest progression. Once accessed there is a gold and material cost for each with a motif requirement.




    Before any of this is added....The styles under the armor tiers need to be unlocked.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno when One Tamriel was released, crafting wasn't adjusted to the One Tamriel concept, only the gathering of crafting.

    Crafters should have access to craft any known styles if they know both the motif and have said passives.
    Then just allow a selected style to require "x" amount of materials.
    The material should continue to drive the artwork
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on November 30, 2016 5:22PM
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  • DocFrost72
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    Confused by the title. You're saying "money maker." Crown store puchase = hell no.
  • Kodrac
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    Biased poll is biased
  • Abeille
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Confused by the title. You're saying "money maker." Crown store puchase = hell no.

    OP is probably saying that people would be more willing to buy Crown Store Motifs if it was possible to apply the look of a known motif to a set piece.

    I want it simple. Right-click, "change style to...", pick a style, a style material or Mimic Store is consumed.

    I see no need to make it hard, expensive or complicated.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    So many great styles that are locked to old materials. Rubedite is lame.
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  • deevoh1991
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    Yeah I really don't want people to see me and judge me based of what I have equipped. I actually want that scary af harelyquin jester costume.
    But yeah more variety would be fun
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  • DMuehlhausen
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    It shouldn't be Transmog. It should just be outfits. Then you can craft any style and any level. Then you could even allow for multiple outfits. Rift handled this system really well.
  • Kodrac
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    Abeille wrote: »
    OP is probably saying that people would be more willing to buy Crown Store Motifs if it was possible to apply the look of a known motif to a set piece.

    I want it simple. Right-click, "change style to...", pick a style, a style material or Mimic Store is consumed.

    I see no need to make it hard, expensive or complicated.

    Honestly, this is why I quit collecting style motifs. They're good while leveling and making your own training gear but once you hit 160 and start piecing together sets with different styles you end up needing costumes more than motifs. And there's so many of them I'll never use them all.
  • Abeille
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    Kodrac wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    OP is probably saying that people would be more willing to buy Crown Store Motifs if it was possible to apply the look of a known motif to a set piece.

    I want it simple. Right-click, "change style to...", pick a style, a style material or Mimic Store is consumed.

    I see no need to make it hard, expensive or complicated.

    Honestly, this is why I quit collecting style motifs. They're good while leveling and making your own training gear but once you hit 160 and start piecing together sets with different styles you end up needing costumes more than motifs. And there's so many of them I'll never use them all.

    Same. I was a crafter with every motif, once, but then I was like "what's the point?" and stopped. It got even worse after 1T.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Mercutio
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    I suppose I'm lucky in that Dwemer is my favorite style and the materials are pretty cheap. But I really, really get the frustration of people who aren't in that position.

    Whether it be transmog, costumes, whatever, the important thing is that people who can modify their avatar's appearance to taste become more emotionally invested in said and thus are happier customers and more loyal to the game. I think ESO is one of the best games when it comes to customization but there is always room for improvement. Those improvements could also generate additional revenue so it is win/win for all involved.
    Edited by Mercutio on November 30, 2016 5:36PM
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  • leothedino
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    Kodrac wrote: »
    Biased poll is biased

    Because there so so many other ways to say yes or no. Give me a break...
  • Gothlander
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    Transmog system like WoW and battlegrounds like WoW. Wsg, ab those were my favorite bg.
    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    TESO needs a wardrobe system badly. Something similar to WoW's tmog system would make this game one of the best mmorpg out there!
  • MasterSpatula
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    Poll lacks option for "Make crafted sets competitive."
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  • andreasranasen
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    That is the longest title i've seen...
    #VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER
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  • MasterSpatula
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    leothedino wrote: »
    Kodrac wrote: »
    Biased poll is biased

    Because there so so many other ways to say yes or no. Give me a break...

    Even though I largely agree with much of what you're saying, your poll is blatantly biased. The answer you disagree with is worded in a way that insults anyone who chooses it.

    Don't feel bad. That's a nearly-unbroken tradition on this forum.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • Riejael
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    This would be a great addition to ESO plus. Especially since subbing in ESO is very much lacking features.

    10% exp runs out of usefulness once you've filled in champion stuff.
    1500 crowns a month becomes a bit useless once you've bought most of the store's costume stuff.
    'Free' DLCs gets more expensive after 3 months (I can get all DLCs for 49.99)

    Dying costume slot is about the only thing that stays relevant. More appearance options would be great.
  • theher0not
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    If it is accesable to everyone then yes. If limited to store/ESO + then no.
  • Lashiing
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    would be nice to have a set crafted for you and then swap the styles to what you want (crafter might not have the same motifs you do)
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  • Minalan
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    Easy solution: appearance slots.

    Get a crafter to make a 150CP no-trait shell piece of whatever motif to put into that slot.
  • Lookstowindwards
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    It shouldn't be Transmog. It should just be outfits. Then you can craft any style and any level. Then you could even allow for multiple outfits. Rift handled this system really well.

    Im too am in favor for the "Rift-solution":
    In Rift ever piece of gear could be visualy replaced by an item in the wardrobe slot, in which you could put in the item you wanted be seen wearing on that specific gear slot. More wardrobe slots could be bought with ingame platin (in Rifts case), so you could change your look depending on situation with one click.

    You could als make ANY piece of gear invisible: Either the one in Wardrobe (so your stats-clothing becomes visible in that place), or by making both wardrobe and True-Gear invisible, so you would not wear any shoes/gloves/shoulderpats/etc. at all. It was and still is great [Now this system was even more expanded by "learning" the style of an item, when having it in your inventory, so today you dont even have to hold on the items anymore to wear a specific look (and: its account wide)]!

    I would be happy, if we get the simple wardrobe-slot-system. Hell... I even wouldnt be too frustrated if they decided they wanted to go for transmog - just give us a system to change our look without using the same costumes as everybody else, let us combine different pieces of gear, costume and found everyday-clothing for our unique look.
  • lohworm
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    Here's what I mean:
    1. If you're wearing crafted gear and want to change it....only the crafter can change it based on their known motifs for free.
    -if the gear is changed by anyone other than the crafter, there is a material cost per item limited to known motif of the new crafter

    Once worn gear is bound...how to give it back to a crafter for transmog ?
  • Nerouyn
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    So many great styles that are locked to old materials. Rubedite is lame.

    Absolutely.

    Bosmer cotton light armour is one of my favourite sets. Much better than the ancestor silk version - mostly courtesy of the head and shoulder pieces.

    And I hate weapon colourization by material. I'm not a big fan of red and it generally doesn't go with how I colour my armour.
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    Confused by the title. You're saying "money maker." Crown store puchase = hell no.

    In my case, he's right. I won't be purchasing the new exclusive crown store motif because I won't actually be able to wear it. If there was a transmog option I'd be all over that stuff.
    I was also going to buy the Thieves Guild bundle JUST for the motif (I'm pretty much broke in game but not irl ;)), but I decided against it because, yes, no transmog option.

    Edited by Alucardo on December 1, 2016 6:04AM
  • Messy1
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    Your poll is horribly biased!
  • Alucardo
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    Messy1 wrote: »
    Your poll is horribly biased!

    In a way, yes. Some builds can still look pretty decent with the right gear, but many of us want to actually use a full motif style. Like, you buy an EXCLUSIVE crown store motif, but it's pretty much impossible to wear the full thing without hindering yourself in some way.
  • Aliniel
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    I said Yes, but what I meant is "Make Master Crafters Awesome!" by allowing us some kind of recrafting - changing motif, maybe even trait. Somewhat that would discourage low level crafting toons. :)
  • Preyfar
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    We've been asking for this since day one, but they've said they've no plans to implement. Which makes me sad. I stopped going after motifs because of it. Little to no point in them anymore.
  • Sigtric
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    People keep mentioning Rift but I've never played so I'm not sure, but it sounds a lot like outfitting in LOTRO

    If ZOS stole that system and implemented it in ESO, I'd be throwing money at the crown store quite a bit for cosmetic items

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  • HumaKnight
    I think this would be really good for the game.

    I'd make use of it whether it's bought or free because how my character looks is really important to me. Leveling up, my character has looked atrocious at times and not being able to choose how your toon looks just seems sooooo 2003. Yeah I've bought costumes but that still doesn't have anywhere near the freedom at Transmog would have.

    Also if they implement this I also hope they'd include an option for weapons too.

    This game has so many armour options that it seems a shame to not be able to use them all and really have some fashion diversity amongst the players.
  • Messy1
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    They just need to make proc sets craftable and get rid of the whole PROC mechanic.

    Proc sets are ruining the game. Very, very, poor decision making on game design.
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