Vampire City for Housing

Ethromelb14_ESO

Can we get an area that's exclusive for vampires (players)?

The idea is to make it look like vampires had to establish their own community separate from mortal society. The region would be very haunting and have bad weather with mist all around, and occasional anomalies like a ghost ship or La Mae and Movarth appearing. It would always be night time but different versions of it. Moon phases, thunder storms, howling, heavy wind, humans that are enslaved and mistakenly wandered in our domain. Blood rivers with bodies of drained victims scattered about. The housing area would consist of some of the most dangerous npc monsters that don't attack vampires which are kindred monsters, but will attack humanoid players that are not vamps while traversing in the area, either to visit or adventure. The merchant in the housing area will offer vanity items relevant to the vampires that live there like coffins and such.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Houses should be added to the orchard in Coldharbour exclusively for Vampires

Betheny

So the alts of vampires that are not vampires can't use the house...don't think so.

Betheny

Also, racist.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

I just want to live there; no one said anything about racing.

Betheny

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

I just want to live there; no one said anything about racing.

It would clearly be racisising.

will_rob87

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

Agreed, sounds like segregation, which we should be moving away from. I also think that any "refuge" would have long ago been destroyed by the various factions (I don't think the fighters guild or the undaunted would allow this to happen)

HOWEVER, I do like the idea of a spooky zone with abandoned building n zombies, perhaps ruled by a little known baron who only appears at night and only ever drinks "red wine"

Betheny

will_rob87 wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

Agreed, sounds like segregation, which we should be moving away from. I also think that any "refuge" would have long ago been destroyed by the various factions (I don't think the fighters guild or the undaunted would allow this to happen)

HOWEVER, I do like the idea of a spooky zone with abandoned building n zombies, perhaps ruled by a little known baron who only appears at night and only ever drinks "red wine"

Crypt housing and secret caves would be great too.

1mirg

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

People in Tamriel hunt and kill vampires all the time because they are just vampires. You could be a vampire who only drinks animal blood and never attacked nor harmed a mortal and you'd still be killed. This isn't racism, it's more of a matter of self defense than anything. You'd think by now that vampires would have founded their own little city for themselves to escape from all of the vampire hunts occurring.

If you still think what they suggest is "racism" then place all of the "vampire" in my post and replace them with "blacks" or "Asians" or such. You'll begin to understand how this suggestion isn't racism but only something reasonable which would and should have occurred already in the lore of elderscrolls. Which it kinda has, remember Castle Volkihar?

Betheny

1mirg wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

People in Tamriel hunt and kill vampires all the time because they are just vampires. You could be a vampire who only drinks animal blood and never attacked nor harmed a mortal and you'd still be killed. This isn't racism, it's more of a matter of self defense than anything. You'd think by now that vampires would have founded their own little city for themselves to escape from all of the vampire hunts occurring.

If you still think what they suggest is "racism" then place all of the "vampire" in my post and replace them with "blacks" or "Asians" or such. You'll begin to understand how this suggestion isn't racism but only something reasonable which would and should have occurred already in the lore of elderscrolls. Which it kinda has, remember Castle Volkihar?

People don't hunt other player vampires because they're a menace to Tamriel though, except in Cyrodiil where everyone is hunted, but only for points and absolutely nothing to do with this call for special housing even your alts aren't allowed to use...

And when I replace "vampire" with some other race word in this thread, it's even more racist.

STEVIL

I thought it was called Rivenspire?

1mirg

Betheny wrote: »

People don't hunt other player vampires because they're a menace to Tamriel though, except in Cyrodiil where everyone is hunted, but only for points and absolutely nothing to do with this call for special housing even your alts aren't allowed to use...

Wasn't talking about other players, buddy. Remember those Vampire Hunter groups in the past games?

Betheny

1mirg wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

People don't hunt other player vampires because they're a menace to Tamriel though, except in Cyrodiil where everyone is hunted, but only for points and absolutely nothing to do with this call for special housing even your alts aren't allowed to use...

Wasn't talking about other players, buddy

Yes you were, unless by saying you want special exclusive player housing you and the OP really mean housing for npcs and not players.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Betheny wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

I just want to live there; no one said anything about racing.

It would clearly be racisising.

I guess all those hairstyles that are exclusive to certain races (in the crown store) that other races are not allowed to wear is racist too? Racism is the idea that one believes themselves to be superior to another. I requested exclusivity not superiority. Also there's nothing wrong with the occasional feature that allows certain player types to feel special or good about their character, as long as everybody gets something. Just like every race has their own racial traits.

Try not to take it so seriously. It's all for fun, and yes, the area would be exclusive to your vampire character.

Betheny

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

I just want to live there; no one said anything about racing.

It would clearly be racisising.

Try not to take it so seriously. It's all for fun, and yes, the area would be exclusive to your vampire character.

Does racisising look like a serious word to you?

Ethromelb14_ESO

STEVIL wrote: »

I thought it was called Rivenspire?

We can't live there, as far as I know.

1mirg

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

We can't live there, as far as I know.

He's referring to House Ravenwatch, a neutral house in the war filled with nothing but vampires

Ethromelb14_ESO

Betheny wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

Also, racist.

I just want to live there; no one said anything about racing.

It would clearly be racisising.

Try not to take it so seriously. It's all for fun, and yes, the area would be exclusive to your vampire character.

Does racisising look like a serious word to you?

I don't know. For all I know you could be some kind of die hard Grand Prix driver. I do know that "Also, racist" looks pretty darn serious. Got me ready to picket.

Ethromelb14_ESO

1mirg wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

We can't live there, as far as I know.

He's referring to House Ravenwatch, a neutral house in the war filled with nothing but vampires

Oh ok. I'm not trying to live there. I need space. Over there I'll end up having a roommate in my coffin, and I'm a pretty big guy.

Betheny

I just suspect OP didn't realise that would mean alts who aren't vampires wouldn't be allowed to use the place, somehow.

Or if ZOS didn't want to mess around trying to exclude alts from entering a house (because that would be a pointless waste of dev time) that their vamp character was able to buy....then everyone would just go and grab a vamp bite to get this house on one alt then buy it then immediately lose the vampirism and move all their non-vamps in, then what point was the "exclusive" housing for in first place?

Betheny

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

I do know that "Also, racist" looks pretty darn serious. Got me ready to picket.

You don't get to picket against something that's racist, that's not how it works.

Ethromelb14_ESO

Betheny wrote: »

I just suspect OP didn't realise that would mean alts who aren't vampires wouldn't be allowed to use the place, somehow.

Or if ZOS didn't want to mess around trying to exclude alts from entering a house (because that would be a pointless waste of dev time) that their vamp character was able to buy....then everyone would just go and grab a vamp bite to get this house on one alt then buy it then immediately lose the vampirism and move all their non-vamps in, then what point was the "exclusive" housing for in first place?

You misunderstand. I'm talking about a small exclusive zone, perhaps an island that you have to be a vampire to live in. All of your characters don't gain vampirism just because you have on character on the account that has it. It's the same premise. The same way a maxed out mount is not maxed out on all characters on the account. There's nothing wrong with the idea, unless someone's the type of player that wants to try an cheat the feature. This is for hardcore vampire players that really enjoy the experience of being a vamp. The idea is not intended to offend those players that are not. Feel free to request your own zone where the sun always shines and vamps can't come. We could use some more authentic lore- based content.

1mirg

Betheny wrote: »

if ZOS didn't want to mess around trying to exclude alts from entering a house (because that would be a pointless waste of dev time) that their vamp character was able to buy....then everyone would just go and grab a vamp bite to get this house on one alt then buy it then immediately lose the vampirism and move all their non-vamps in, then what point was the "exclusive" housing for in first place?

If the system did indeed work as it should, keeping all non vampires out and all. You'd more than likely would have been given a quest right away which eventually lead to you being kicked out of the city and be given a full refund on the house you bought in said city too.

They prob will send a messenger to you asking you to come chat with X person about the important matter, only to realize it's about you giving up your vampirism. You prob will be given a choice to become a vampire again though, knowing how things like this go and all. But regardless of that, you won't be able to bring non vampires into the city regardless of them being a friend or not, for obvious reasons. You would prob be given a fine or something for doing so if you attempted it though. Seeing as how only a vampire can bring non-vampires into the city safely. But knowing zenimax, if they did have something like this in the game then there would more than likely be a questline which would allow any non-vampire players safe passage into the city once they have completed that questline. Which I have to admit would be a pretty cool thing.

At the end of the day, it's not something which breaks the immersion as it would make sense. and it won't break the game neither. There isn't a real issue of this whole "vampire only city" thing besides the issue of trying to become a non-vampire again or bringing a non vampire in. Which you seem hell bent on continually pressing on and on about but pressing it on in a rather flamebait type of manner. I understand where your coming from though, as to why I have actually responded originally to your post in this thread. But again, and I must press this. It's not a matter of racism as you keep on saying.

will_rob87

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

I just suspect OP didn't realise that would mean alts who aren't vampires wouldn't be allowed to use the place, somehow.

Or if ZOS didn't want to mess around trying to exclude alts from entering a house (because that would be a pointless waste of dev time) that their vamp character was able to buy....then everyone would just go and grab a vamp bite to get this house on one alt then buy it then immediately lose the vampirism and move all their non-vamps in, then what point was the "exclusive" housing for in first place?

You misunderstand. I'm talking about a small exclusive zone, perhaps an island that you have to be a vampire to live in. All of your characters don't gain vampirism just because you have on character on the account that has it. It's the same premise. The same way a maxed out mount is not maxed out on all characters on the account. There's nothing wrong with the idea, unless someone's the type of player that wants to try an cheat the feature. This is for hardcore vampire players that really enjoy the experience of being a vamp. The idea is not intended to offend those players that are not. Feel free to request your own zone where the sun always shines and vamps can't come. We could use some more authentic lore- based content.

So let me get this straight, just so we are clear:
You want an island that only a single race of people are allowed to live on and own property on. Anybody not of that race will be excluded from buying property and will in fact be attacked just for walking on that island. This concept sounds awfully familiar...

Betheny

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

I just suspect OP didn't realise that would mean alts who aren't vampires wouldn't be allowed to use the place, somehow.

Or if ZOS didn't want to mess around trying to exclude alts from entering a house (because that would be a pointless waste of dev time) that their vamp character was able to buy....then everyone would just go and grab a vamp bite to get this house on one alt then buy it then immediately lose the vampirism and move all their non-vamps in, then what point was the "exclusive" housing for in first place?

snip

Did you not read anything I said, it would be easy to bypass this for a start, also this is definitely segregation, on top of that it's a waste of dev time.

Ethromelb14_ESO

will_rob87 wrote: »

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Betheny wrote: »

I just suspect OP didn't realise that would mean alts who aren't vampires wouldn't be allowed to use the place, somehow.

Or if ZOS didn't want to mess around trying to exclude alts from entering a house (because that would be a pointless waste of dev time) that their vamp character was able to buy....then everyone would just go and grab a vamp bite to get this house on one alt then buy it then immediately lose the vampirism and move all their non-vamps in, then what point was the "exclusive" housing for in first place?

You misunderstand. I'm talking about a small exclusive zone, perhaps an island that you have to be a vampire to live in. All of your characters don't gain vampirism just because you have on character on the account that has it. It's the same premise. The same way a maxed out mount is not maxed out on all characters on the account. There's nothing wrong with the idea, unless someone's the type of player that wants to try an cheat the feature. This is for hardcore vampire players that really enjoy the experience of being a vamp. The idea is not intended to offend those players that are not. Feel free to request your own zone where the sun always shines and vamps can't come. We could use some more authentic lore- based content.

So let me get this straight, just so we are clear:
You want an island that only a single race of people are allowed to live on and own property on. Anybody not of that race will be excluded from buying property and will in fact be attacked just for walking on that island. This concept sounds awfully familiar...

Well technically any race can be a vampire, therefore any race is welcome, but FYI vampirism is a condition or disease, not a race. Anybody can visit to adventure or simply be a guest, they just can't live in that particular area. Vampires not being attacked will represent their link to and dominance over all creatures in that zone.

Betheny

We agree! But only if that means werewolves and normal humans can run through the zone at any time and burn your houses down.

sneakymitchell

And what about werewolves huh? A cave more likely.

Kram8ion

Yes please just a cheap pine box lined with dirt from my homeland
We vampires are very low maintanance

ArrerBoy

Brilliant! Build a house far from mortals where they can't hurt, put all the vampires in that house, and then burn it down! The perfect plan!

Rohamad_Ali

A crypt would be cool for future housing but they are not making neighborhoods , just imstanced housing in the same locations for everyone sor of like GTA V has .