Will ESO pass WOW in popularity

BossXV

Being a 2014, very modern game, ESO has tons of potential vs WOW, for example it's Superior graphics and combat

A couple questions

How popular is the game now

Will it pass wow

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Rohamad_Ali

Not in this lifetime .

Ackwalan

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BossXV

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Not in this lifetime .

Probably... I just see that ESO had sooo much more potential.. Ya never know

Rohamad_Ali

BossXV wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Not in this lifetime .

Probably... I just see that ESO had sooo much more potential.. Ya never know

It's fan base is deeply rooted and older . Most wow players put a decade into their characters . That's longer then most celebrity marriages . Good luck getting them to divorce that game . I'm sure some play both .

ArchMikem

I barely know a thing about WoW but it's enough to say "No way in Hell."

Naughty_Ryder

I have played WoW for just over 11 years. I love the game and the lore etc. I still find it very fun when it comes to the tinkering and such! But sometimes you have to move on from it when it gets too old or the game goes downhill after recent expansions. That's how I wound up here on ESO earlier this year after quitting WoW. Personally I found WoW much more fun and warming than ESO. However I do find ESO more realistic with the character interaction and all that huff-jaff with it's Hickory Smoked BBQ Sauce.. There is tons more to do in WoW than there ever will be in ESO in my opinion. We will have to see what the next decays brings!

Iyas

Lol not with that support from Zos

arkansas_ESO

lol no

Bulljoker

yeah, also PVPers will come to ESO because there are so many arenas and battlegrounds and there's so much to do in game

ConeOfSilence

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

BossXV wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Not in this lifetime .

Probably... I just see that ESO had sooo much more potential.. Ya never know

It's fan base is deeply rooted and older . Most wow players put a decade into their characters . That's longer then most celebrity marriages . Good luck getting them to divorce that game . I'm sure some play both .

You sir win comment of the day.

Aliniel

No. ZOS has no idea what they're doing when it comes to balancing classes, items and everything connected to both. This will eventually kill the game.

Asmael

Hopefully, yes.

Realistically, no.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Not sure this kind of comparison matters.

I've never played WoW myself but some of my guildies did (and some still do). Sometimes they're not happy with ESO/ZOS but overall it looks like :
- ESO is prettier (graphically)
- ESO is better combat-wise
- ESO is richer in quests/storytelling/lore
- ESO's community is more mature and helpful

Birdovic

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Not sure this kind of comparison matters.

I've never played WoW myself but some of my guildies did (and some still do). Sometimes they're not happy with ESO/ZOS but overall it looks like :
- ESO is prettier (graphically)
- ESO is better combat-wise
- ESO is richer in quests/storytelling/lore
- ESO's community is more mature and helpful

Well let me tell you, I played a super ugly, mechanics-wise terrible and overall alpha-development-phase-feeling game for like 6 years, until the servers were shut down.

Reasons why I played it for so long?
I got to know to many people there and mainly sticked with the game because those friends did, too(and because I was younger and cared less about everything but having fun? Dont know).

So:
No matter how beautiful, or combat-wise great the game might be, there is always something else holding people back from leaving the game they played for such a long time, be it because of playing it for so long and being unable to "let it go", addiction, long time friends, the nostalgia, or whatever. I think WoW perfectly fits in that role for many.

So until those people stop playing it (for whatever reason they still play it), until then I doubt ESO will pass WoW in terms of popularity. And I think this will need a few more years.

Mutagem

It could, but not with how slow they release new content. It was the main reason I quit a year ago. I started in July 2014, I played steadily until just before IC dropped which was a year later...their chance to hook people in was then and they got too slow with releasing content during that 1 year gap [in which they released nothing in terms of DLC] that I don't think it would be able to catch up with how fast WoW releases their content/activities/improvements.

Is ESO a great MMO? Absolutely, best I have played [I've played about 7 or 8 of them]. They take way too long to keep the momentum going though that players get bored and move on, then come back, then bored and move on again.

Darkstorne

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Not sure this kind of comparison matters.

I've never played WoW myself but some of my guildies did (and some still do). Sometimes they're not happy with ESO/ZOS but overall it looks like :
- ESO is prettier (graphically)
- ESO is better combat-wise
- ESO is richer in quests/storytelling/lore
- ESO's community is more mature and helpful

And WoW has
- More levelling content
- More questing cotent
- More end-game PVE content
- More PVP content
- Much bigger content updates

Ten years of updates means there's always going to be more to do, and when WoW's big updates each add 10+ new dungeons, 2+ raids, heroic and mythic modes, overhaul old dungeons to make them end-game content, and pad that out with smaller FREE patch content that add multiple new dungeons and raids, it's also outpacing ESO in new content as well as existing content. ZOS recently added a mere two new dungeons in a DLC...

That's the benefit of having 5 million subscribers at even the worst of times though. You can afford a bigger team. So no, ESO will do very well as its own thing, but nothing will surpass WoW until that game has long ceased to operate.

WikileaksEU

Hahaha no, not with the attitude Zenimax has to their own game. They treat it pretty bad. They need to show ESO more respect and also be innovative and not stuck in the old mmorpg formula. There are many features from Elder Scrolls games that would have been a great asset to ESO, but they passed on it. Also other innovative games from the past could have influenced ESO, but Zenimax choosed to pass on it.

I believe that there will come another mmorpg that is not the elder scroll, and that mmorpg will surpass all other mmorpgs.

Adernath

BossXV wrote: »

Being a 2014, very modern game, ESO has tons of potential vs WOW, for example it's Superior graphics and combat

A couple

How popular is the game now

Will it pass wow

Let me give you my 2 cents:

The main issue with ESO is that in my opinion it does *not* have a superior combat than WOW. For me PvP in ESO was always a large laggy chaos regardless on which machine I played, while in WOW combat was always smooth even large-scale ones and you can play out your skills way better, for example by having your entire set (useful!) skills at your disposal at the same time and to set your own macros over your entire keyboard instead of being forced to 5+5 skills like here. In ESO this forces you to make choices between Skills/Morphs and most of them turn out to be useless or too special and never found the way to my hotkey tab. On top of that the classes doesn't seem to be that well balanced. Blizzard notoriously makes a very good job in balancing.

Regarding the atmosphere: both games have a well made story, but ESO simply didn't really hooked me like WOW. WOW has in my opinion a much larger diversity in regards of the regions you can explore and also its lore. ESO has the potential, yes, but it would take a large effort to come on par or surpass WOW. When I am looking at the speed and content of the DLCs coming out I am not convinced that this will happen any time soon. The faction pride in WOW is also something many people, including myself, consider an essential part of their gameplay. The fact that in ESO it basically doesn't matter if you take part of the alliance war, you can always walk around in the other factions home regions without being in danger by players of the other faction, something I find not immersive.

The graphics is of course far superior than WOW, but its the overall gameplay which makes a game popular.

kamimark

There'll be a number of people who play WoW until Blizzard shuts it down. That number is much lower than present, but it's still a huge number. It's doubtful WoW will ever have a large influx of new players, the characters look terrible, the gameplay is dull and easily automated, and investing a huge effort up front to catch up isn't going to appeal to anyone. I watched some Warcraft Off the Record videos and played again for a month to see the new content, and wasn't impressed, and can't see how a new player would find anything interesting.

ESO is still growing, and isn't such a daunting thing to get into. The character customization blows almost anything else away. I ran into some 2-week-old newbies this week, and they were doing fine at the mechanics. The world's big enough to have things to do, but not yet so huge you can't find anyone. Sadly ZOS wastes resources on the PVP campaign; it's impossible to make both PVE & PVP players happy, and I think other than dueling and maybe team arenas they shouldn't have bothered. In maybe 3-5 years, ESO will mature and top out, and then start its own slow decay to die-hards who play until ZOS shuts it down.

The peak for ESO won't be higher than the peak for WoW from years ago, but will be higher than current WoW at some point.

And then there'll be new MMOs to get into.

ScooberSteve

No because wows is a game for everyone including babies and little child. ESO is a more mature bases players.

kevlarto_ESO

ESO could, but for one they wont spend the money the game needs to progress with fixes and stopping the cheating, the dev team is inexperienced despite what they might tell you, all the potential this game has is lost on a company that wont hire experienced staff, and does not put enough money back into the game, mediocrity is the best we can expect from zos and mediocrity does not get you to number one, or the most profitable.

Plus to me its an apple an oranges comparison, both games are very different both games attract a very different player in some way.

Gargath

ScooberSteve wrote: »

No because wows is a game for everyone including babies and little child. ESO is a more mature bases players.

Cannot agree with you, eso has a lot of babies and little children playing, it's clear when reading chat sometimes.

Ayantir

eso have maybe 10% of wow population.

wow have 50% of its market in china.

Rune_Relic

^^^
Graphics = ESO
Gameplay= WOW

Until ESO gets a grip on the gameplay (aka balance/mechanics) aspect, it will never overtake WOW.
ES is at a distinct disdvantage coming from a vertical progression single player back ground which are its strengths.
A massive community that preferred solo play over group play.
But that doesn't stop it using its strengths to remain unique within a community framework.
ESO could develop a better form of gameplay than WOW if they honoured the past and embraced the new.
Carving a new and unique path is always difficult....but progress is progress regardless.

corrosivechains

If you mean WoW at it's peak in Wrath? Never.

But there is potential for it to be more popular than WoW should both development teams continue on their current paths. It seems the team here is finally listening to the playerbase though they fought tooth and nail not too, but they've come around a bit with weapon ultimates, One Tamriel open world, and housing on the horizon.

Blizzard on the other hand has a new development team hellbent on treating the game like Diablo 3 and continue to refuse to listen to their player base. Class balance is the worst it's been since vanilla. All the Legion progression is taken straight from Diablo 3 with a never-ending slog through the same few dungeons and raids so you never catch the dragon. PvP is absolutely broken. And WoW is sloughing off players just as fast, if not faster than they did with Warlords. It's both funny and sad at the same time how WoW goes through this cycle now every expansion on release where the playerbase spikes back up to those Wrath levels, both players and gaming websites praise it as the best it's ever been and the game has been fixed...then a few months later the player base drops to a new all time low when the shiny wears off and those who returned realize all those new features were just marshmallow fluff.

NewBlacksmurf

Naaah

WoW was at one point with all the people quitting and stuff, holding over 10 mil active subs for around 4 years straight even while ppl were also playing on private servers.

I bet if they ever shared how many accounts they have opened...the 6 mil ZOS total wouldn't even compare to the 50-100 mil WoW accounts

Mettaricana

Not unless it gives us armor restyling and stops this rng bs and we need some seriously big story content updates not side story but continue the companions and aftermath of molag bal if not then eso will trickle down to nothing

Darkstorne

Rune_Relic wrote: »

^^^
Graphics = ESO
Gameplay= WOW

Until ESO gets a grip on the gameplay (aka balance/mechanics) aspect, it will never overtake WOW.
ES is at a distinct disdvantage coming from a vertical progression single player back ground which are its strengths.
A massive community that preferred solo play over group play.
But that doesn't stop it using its strengths to remain unique within a community framework.
ESO could develop a better form of gameplay than WOW if they honoured the past and embraced the new.
Carving a new and unique path is always difficult....but progress is progress regardless.

Yeah, in fact I think ESO has been getting more and more popular the more unique and less like WoW (and more like TES) it becomes.

Ever since announcement and reveal ZOS have had a constant uphill battle, having to change almost every single design decision they had in order to create a more unique game in the MMO genre that people actually want. Changing the art style, adding first person modes, the option to skip starter islands, all the way up to One Tamriel, is just making this game better and better as it becomes more unique, playing to the series' strengths. It's why I keep coming back to this game to enjoy regular improvements, and have so much hope for its future (come oooooon personal dungeon instances with no respawns).

Solariken

BossXV wrote: »

How popular is the game now

Will it pass wow

That ship has sailed.

Bryanonymous

Well, ESO could go for awhile on consoles, but who cares which has had more players or ever will? Each is its own game, and I honestly don't think ESO will have a long term cult following. Technology improves, games get better, players move on. I know I will when I feel I am done. And I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. For now, I have no interest in WoW ever. That game always looked terrible, and the more TES can distance itself from that game, the better.