Resto staff Powered vs Precise?

Beruge

So has anyone done some in depth testing about what is best of powered vs precise as a resto staff?

At what spell power and spell critical rating is powered better than precise to use?

Currently im running 5 spell power cure, 5 Innfallible aether - all divines except my spc gloves wich i havent looted the divines for yet.

Since i dont got my master resto yet im stuck with the maelstrom resto(or some gold i have from other sets wich wouldnt provide a buff other than m restore enchant). Where i can choose between powered or precise.

My options are either 67,4% spell crit and 7% increased healing or 74,4% spell crit.

I am an argonian.


The usage is for vet trials with mainly healing springs.

Beardimus

Id be interested to know this too. Thinking out loud I guess As powered gives oopmh to heals I guess it does depend on the skills you use. Multiple presses are more crit chances, vs consistent big heals.

I guess also you reach a critical masse with Crits. Like DPS you kinda don't gain much once past 55-60% I feel.

Curious to know if some like @Asayre has looked at the maths

Izaki

Beardimus wrote: »

Id be interested to know this too. Thinking out loud I guess As powered gives oopmh to heals I guess it does depend on the skills you use. Multiple presses are more crit chances, vs consistent big heals.

I guess also you reach a critical masse with Crits. Like DPS you kinda don't gain much once past 55-60% I feel.

Curious to know if some like @Asayre has looked at the maths

As a DPS if you only have 55% crit you should review your build. If you can get more crit, get more crit. Stam builds (people still play stam builds?) should be sitting at around 75%. Magicka around 70%. For example Aether vs Moondancer 4 piece on a DPS: 3% crit chance > 967 max magicka.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Precise is only around 3.5% more healing on average, powered is a flat 7%. If you are just looking for more healing, then powered is the way to go.

But more healing is only so effective, precise will help the dps you put out. So if I had to choose between just those 2, precise would win.

On the other hand you said in a trial, in trials, you are not going to be dpsing, so powered might be better, just keep in mind that the more you stack into healing done, the less useful it becomes.

Stannum

Powered = more healing, precise = more DPS (if you do some while on resto bar) the difference is not really great. I use precise as I do not feel lack of healing.

Tyrion87

In this thread @Asayre already answered your question:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/262295/nirnhoned-precise-and-sharpened/p1

Most important:

Asayre wrote: »

powered increases healing done and is better than precise in most cases if you are solely interested in healing.

Asayre wrote: »

Precise leads to ~3.5% increase ability tooltip but Powered gives 7% healing done so in most cases it is better. However, because healing done is additive if you have a lot of healing done bonuses say 100 points in Blessed then the effectiveness of Powered decreases (in this example it becomes 1.32/1.25 or 5.6%)

KingYogi415

Well with a powered staff you can drop cp points from blessed into ele and therm for more DPS.

I would rather run defending if I had it. A dead healer is a bad one.

Rev Rielle

Tyrion87 wrote: »

In this thread @Asayre already answered your question:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/262295/nirnhoned-precise-and-sharpened/p1

Most important:

Asayre wrote: »

powered increases healing done and is better than precise in most cases if you are solely interested in healing.

Asayre wrote: »

Precise leads to ~3.5% increase ability tooltip but Powered gives 7% healing done so in most cases it is better. However, because healing done is additive if you have a lot of healing done bonuses say 100 points in Blessed then the effectiveness of Powered decreases (in this example it becomes 1.32/1.25 or 5.6%)

Not having a go at you, but it's actually scary how many people think that this bad maths (i.e. in the link you provided) is accurate. Mathematicians would be spitting out their tea in disgust at the way people interpret and use percentages on these forums (and in general).

AzuraKin

1000 heal non crit, 1500 heal crit 100 casts: assuming 63% crit without precise:

thus we have over the course of 100 casts an average of
94.5k crit healing per target
37k non crit healing per target

rms value: 1315

precise: heal numbers stay same but crit raises to 70%
105k crit healing
30k non crit healing

rms value: 1350

powered: 7% increased healing
crit healing 1605
noncrit 1070
over 100 casts:
crit healing 101115
noncrit healing 39590

rms value: 1407

assuming 87 points into crit healing boost in cp (~22% crit healing boost) for total of .72 crit modifier)

crit heal: 1720
noncrit 1000

precise:
crit 120400
noncrit 30000

rms value 1504

powered:
crit 1840
noncrit 1070

over 100
crit: 115945
noncrit30590

rms value: 1555

hope this helps ya.

Sharee

Well, math aside, i would go with a common sense rule of thumb. Precise increases both healing and damage, powered increases only healing. So assuming one isn't flat-out better than the other in all scenarios, powered should be better at pure healing, since that's all it does.