Undaunted Levelling - Speed / Survivor Challenges

raasdal

Hello Everybody,

Does the Speed and Survivor Challenges give rank/reputation to the Undaunted Skill line? I think they do, but yesterday i got the Speed challenge in Elden Hollow I , and i am almost 99% sure the 50 points did not get added to the ranking. I was 20 points into level 5, and finished the same way, after the achievement had popped up. So - whats the truth here?

Assuming these do add to the skill line progession, what are the requirements for them, in terms of Dungeon Completion. Do you need to kill all bosses to get the achievements - or just the final boss to "end" the dungeon? Now that "Gold" undaunted has been changed to only a few bosses requires, instead of all bosses, including optional ones, i am not sure anymore. Hope someone could clarify if there are any specific rules to the these.

Enslaved

tbh, I am not sure if these provide 50 points or less, but I remember progressing undaunted lvl to 8 when I did no death run in vCoS. If I am wrong on this, I would like a confirmation, too.

Enodoc

Assuming nothing changed, it should be 10 Rep per earned achievement, covering all Veteran Dungeons Achievements, as well as all Dungeons Achievements except those for Public Dungeons. The Speed and Survivor achievements require defeating all bosses.

lardvader

Yes all achievements inside 4-player dungeons and 12-player trials should count. I also think some achievements like dungeon blocker will progress in public dungeons as well.
There's usually 4 (or 5) achievements tied to each dungeon - most of them for killing the bosses. One for a certain number, one for all of the bosses, one for speedrun and one for no death. Some dungeons have others as well as killing a number of zombies, rats, eat bad food etc.

I think the speed achievements gives you 5 (or 10) points towards Undaunted and 50 achievement points.

Mic1007

10 for all achievements except Dungeon Damage Despensor, Greater Dungeon Healer, and Greater Dungeon Blocker, which each give 20.

Integral1900

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

lardvader

Integral1900 wrote: »

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

Yeah and feeding horses.....

Tbh. Undaunted can be leveled quick with a group if all wants to focus on it. Just run Vet and maybe HM on most of the dungeons should take you close (if not all the way) to lvl. 9 now with all the new vet versions...

SickDuck

lardvader wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

Yeah and feeding horses.....

Tbh. Undaunted can be leveled quick with a group if all wants to focus on it. Just run Vet and maybe HM on most of the dungeons should take you close (if not all the way) to lvl. 9 now with all the new vet versions...

This. Currently there are so many achievements plus you have the shareable dailies too.

There are 24 non-dlc dungeons in the game if I remember correctly. Running them vet mode with friends you can get easy 40 points each (quest + conqueror + HM + speed), which is 960 points already. Another 240 points to run through the normal versions. You also gain a handful of xp and 24 skill points which will be useful for a new toon. Not sure about the total xp required for Undaunted 9 but these already look around it.

The "slower" option to do the similar but as part of the daily plegdes only. That still means 100-120 points a day, getting you to max level casually within 2 weeks.

Mic1007

SickDuck wrote: »

lardvader wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

Yeah and feeding horses.....

Tbh. Undaunted can be leveled quick with a group if all wants to focus on it. Just run Vet and maybe HM on most of the dungeons should take you close (if not all the way) to lvl. 9 now with all the new vet versions...

This. Currently there are so many achievements plus you have the shareable dailies too.

There are 24 non-dlc dungeons in the game if I remember correctly. Running them vet mode with friends you can get easy 40 points each (quest + conqueror + HM + speed), which is 960 points already. Another 240 points to run through the normal versions. You also gain a handful of xp and 24 skill points which will be useful for a new toon. Not sure about the total xp required for Undaunted 9 but these already look around it.

The "slower" option to do the similar but as part of the daily plegdes only. That still means 100-120 points a day, getting you to max level casually within 2 weeks.

Slight correction: The quest does not grant you Undaunted points, just a skill point. However, you do get both the Conqueror and the Vanquisher (Normal Mode) at the same time if you do Vet mode, so you get 40 points anyway. Throw in 20 points for the two pledges for the day, you can get up to 1000 points on first completions using just two pledges. If you do it over two days, 1040 points. Throw in the achievements for the four DLC dungeons if you have them - just doing them on Normal - and the number goes up to 1080 points. If you bother getting extra achievements like Darklight Dancer and Out of Sight in ICP, you can go even higher.

runagate

Don't forget "This One's On Me' the easiest of all Undaunted achievements for a low level character. Just buy each Undaunted representative in each zone a drink. Good way to kick-start that Blood Fountain thing I always see newbies using at dolmens.

Did you know they buffed that skill? I don't even recall that from Patch Notes.

SublimeSparo

runagate wrote: »

Don't forget "This One's On Me' the easiest of all Undaunted achievements for a low level character. Just buy each Undaunted representative in each zone a drink. Good way to kick-start that Blood Fountain thing I always see newbies using at dolmens.

Did you know they buffed that skill? I don't even recall that from Patch Notes.

Its actually useful for the offtank to run in vmol last boss

runagate

I'm a firm believer that stacking unique buffs, stacking as many synergies as possible and using sets that proc from synergies is a great idea. I learned group theorycrafting from leading in PvP. Seems like the vMoL HM folks apply that basically the same way but in a stricter structure that's testable and repeatable. If I were in a trials or endgame guild I imagine I would get to apply that knowledge.

The %health returned synergy could be very useful to a healthplar.

raasdal

SickDuck wrote: »

lardvader wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

Yeah and feeding horses.....

Tbh. Undaunted can be leveled quick with a group if all wants to focus on it. Just run Vet and maybe HM on most of the dungeons should take you close (if not all the way) to lvl. 9 now with all the new vet versions...

This. Currently there are so many achievements plus you have the shareable dailies too.

There are 24 non-dlc dungeons in the game if I remember correctly. Running them vet mode with friends you can get easy 40 points each (quest + conqueror + HM + speed), which is 960 points already. Another 240 points to run through the normal versions. You also gain a handful of xp and 24 skill points which will be useful for a new toon. Not sure about the total xp required for Undaunted 9 but these already look around it.

The "slower" option to do the similar but as part of the daily plegdes only. That still means 100-120 points a day, getting you to max level casually within 2 weeks.

Shareable Daily? Is that the Kill Delve Boss etc. mission that gives 10 point. The one they also got now for mages and fighters guild?

What does it mean it can be shared? I know what it means in a normal group setting. But does it mean i can do it an infinite number of times as long as someone can share their daily with me?

DRXHarbinger

raasdal wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

lardvader wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

Yeah and feeding horses.....

Tbh. Undaunted can be leveled quick with a group if all wants to focus on it. Just run Vet and maybe HM on most of the dungeons should take you close (if not all the way) to lvl. 9 now with all the new vet versions...

This. Currently there are so many achievements plus you have the shareable dailies too.

There are 24 non-dlc dungeons in the game if I remember correctly. Running them vet mode with friends you can get easy 40 points each (quest + conqueror + HM + speed), which is 960 points already. Another 240 points to run through the normal versions. You also gain a handful of xp and 24 skill points which will be useful for a new toon. Not sure about the total xp required for Undaunted 9 but these already look around it.

The "slower" option to do the similar but as part of the daily plegdes only. That still means 100-120 points a day, getting you to max level casually within 2 weeks.

Shareable Daily? Is that the Kill Delve Boss etc. mission that gives 10 point. The one they also got now for mages and fighters guild?

What does it mean it can be shared? I know what it means in a normal group setting. But does it mean i can do it an infinite number of times as long as someone can share their daily with me?

Max 15 a day. But you need 14 other people to share and all have a different quest. Painful and not worth it.

raasdal

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

lardvader wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

Yeah and feeding horses.....

Tbh. Undaunted can be leveled quick with a group if all wants to focus on it. Just run Vet and maybe HM on most of the dungeons should take you close (if not all the way) to lvl. 9 now with all the new vet versions...

This. Currently there are so many achievements plus you have the shareable dailies too.

There are 24 non-dlc dungeons in the game if I remember correctly. Running them vet mode with friends you can get easy 40 points each (quest + conqueror + HM + speed), which is 960 points already. Another 240 points to run through the normal versions. You also gain a handful of xp and 24 skill points which will be useful for a new toon. Not sure about the total xp required for Undaunted 9 but these already look around it.

The "slower" option to do the similar but as part of the daily plegdes only. That still means 100-120 points a day, getting you to max level casually within 2 weeks.

Shareable Daily? Is that the Kill Delve Boss etc. mission that gives 10 point. The one they also got now for mages and fighters guild?

What does it mean it can be shared? I know what it means in a normal group setting. But does it mean i can do it an infinite number of times as long as someone can share their daily with me?

Max 15 a day. But you need 14 other people to share and all have a different quest. Painful and not worth it.

So i cannot complete todays quest, and then have another random person in zone to share the same quest with me? I would need to get it shared from someone who picked up the quest yesterday?

DRXHarbinger

raasdal wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

SickDuck wrote: »

lardvader wrote: »

Integral1900 wrote: »

Undaunted is probably the main reason I don't want to do any more alts, even after doing all the dungeons it barely crawled up to level four, doing the dailies is going to take about three million years at this rate, it's a good job I still like foraging for matirials along the way

Yeah and feeding horses.....

Tbh. Undaunted can be leveled quick with a group if all wants to focus on it. Just run Vet and maybe HM on most of the dungeons should take you close (if not all the way) to lvl. 9 now with all the new vet versions...

This. Currently there are so many achievements plus you have the shareable dailies too.

There are 24 non-dlc dungeons in the game if I remember correctly. Running them vet mode with friends you can get easy 40 points each (quest + conqueror + HM + speed), which is 960 points already. Another 240 points to run through the normal versions. You also gain a handful of xp and 24 skill points which will be useful for a new toon. Not sure about the total xp required for Undaunted 9 but these already look around it.

The "slower" option to do the similar but as part of the daily plegdes only. That still means 100-120 points a day, getting you to max level casually within 2 weeks.

Shareable Daily? Is that the Kill Delve Boss etc. mission that gives 10 point. The one they also got now for mages and fighters guild?

What does it mean it can be shared? I know what it means in a normal group setting. But does it mean i can do it an infinite number of times as long as someone can share their daily with me?

Max 15 a day. But you need 14 other people to share and all have a different quest. Painful and not worth it.

So i cannot complete todays quest, and then have another random person in zone to share the same quest with me? I would need to get it shared from someone who picked up the quest yesterday?

No. Any daily quest you cannot do more than once. It's even the same for writs now. I used to do them once every 2 days but half the time you pick one up and it's not there.

Same as in gold coast. If you get the minotaur quest and leave it a few days. Go and do it and then go back to the board, if you would have been given the same quest on that day you won't be able to pick any up.

Crap system.