Future of ESO

Doctordarkspawn

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

It is definitely going the wrong direction-
I agree,
adding nuke proc sets where anyone can get kills on anyone...
allowing players to play multiple sides in Alliance War in the same campaign?

Those are not the moves of a strong game with a long future, as your essentially abandoning the serious players trying to grab the casual kids.
- Unfortunately for ZOS, the casual kids will be much quicker to move on when something else comes along.

@Crom_CCCXVI

I dont know about PVP, but that's exactly the opposite of whats happening PVE side.

The resistance and health changes has effectively cut who can compete in half. You run the meta or yuo dont do pledges. The divide between the elite and the rest of the playerbase has gone into overdrive, driving -off- casual PVE'ers and widening that rift.

This isn't pleasing anyone, basicly. Not the PVP crowd, not the serious PVE crowd. This patch is a complete failure for all but the -true- casuals who only do overworld content.

alexkdd99

Where did you get your crystal ball? I heard the ones from target were defective.

ForsakenSin

As i mentioned many times... BOP items are pain in my back 1-641 chances in getting item you need.. less items now to sell those that items can sell have crashed the market as too much supply, guild have increased there weekly donation , people leaving guilds and few days ago i went to vet finder FG2 cp 250 joined and right away i got vote to kick him? and i was like wow the person didn't even start playing and they want to kick him so i cancelled it as its unfair and guess what .. that person was a good player even better then other two who want to kick him out.

I know we need more content more excitement 2 man arena like solo VSMA would be a good kick start , remove BOP items on most of them ( not talking about VMSA ) would boost economy.

i know im always repeating my self here but .. its sad to see friends and guild mates leave and take a long brake cos of the same repetitive game constant farming same dungeon over 200 times and still not get what you need due to "smart" rng ..

i really hope some new life new excitement will be put in to kick start the game again

AuldWolf

Crom_CCCXVI wrote: »

Unfortunately for ZOS, the casual kids will be much quicker to move on when something else comes along.

This is quite the interesting statement for a number of reasons.

First of all, casual players are usually an older audience. They have less time to spend grinding their lives away on trivial pursuits, so they want to be able to just enjoy something without wasting their lives trying to get to something they'll actually enjoy. If it isn't worth their time, they won't play it. That's why casuals don't always stick around -- if there's grinding.

However, what does keep casuals around is an entertaining experience. Casuals are much more likely to stay on because they'll have 'altitis.' It's the casuals who'll be subscribing for years as they slowly get multiple characters to the cap, at their own steam. I find it's always these players who're the most loyal. Your perspective is not just hyperbolic, it's plain wrong. It's like Call of Duty and Pokémon, isn't it? The erroneous perspective is that millennials will be playing Call of Duty, and the children will play Pokémon.

The reality is that the millennials are playing Pokémon, and the children are playing Call of Duty.

And as statistics of those games show, the younger, less casual audience who plays those games only sticks around for as long as there is something to grind for. Though without jobs or life obligations/goals, they can quickly grind their way through conent and be done with it. It's they who're then on the lookout for the next game, or prowling a game's forums being angry about the lack of content to grind through. Meanwhile, the 'filthy casuals' are being loyal customers, just enjoying the game and having fun.

That's the thing. It's harder to attract a smart, more casual gamer because they have no patience for exploitative shenanigans. Tehy're not in it for the dopamine-fuelled addictions, after all. Too many people mix up freemium gamers and casual gamers, if you ask me. Casual gamers are people who just want to take their time and play video games for fun.

If I were to travel back to the early '80s and tell my younger self that in the future, all youth would be playing video games as serious business, deriving next to no joy from it at all? He'd laugh. Video games are supposed to be fun. And if a game is fun, you can count on a loyal, casual audience. That's something that ESO has, and that's something that ZOS really needs to build upon, rather than discarding it. It's the casuals who pay long term subscriptions (rather than subscribing for two months, grinding to the end of all of the content, and then dropping the subscription and leaving the game until new content turns up). It's the casuals who're whales who buy things from the crown store. Hardcore people don't care about dress-up, such as hairstyles or outfits. That's for casual roleplayers.

Basically, well over 90~ per cent of ESO's money comes from loyal casual players, who also happen to be adults with their own credit cards. Rather than kids nagging subscriptions off of their parents, only to jump ship to another game once they've managed to grind their way through every bit of content in a month or two.

Sorry to say, but I'll say this as an adult: Adults were never hardcore. We value fun too much. We already have jobs, we experience the 'daily grind' every day. We don't want our video games to be that. If a video game can be fun, it can hold our attention for year upon year. I know that if you're a kid, you're going to see everyone as a kid, so you'll have his incorrect construct of casual kids because that's just the flawed way you're looking at the world. You're living in an 'everyone is kids' world.

And though I'm sure you'd like to feel important, you're not where the money is right now. ESO's primary target isn't kids. It's millennials and older. It deals with progressive topics of race, sexual identity, toxic nostalgia-fuelled isolationism and xenophobia, along with other topics that would go over the head of the average kid.

Not what you want to hear, I know. This just isn't a game aimed at your demographic. And I'm giving you the respect you deserve to explain this to you as though you possess the intellect to understand it.

Lord_Eomer

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Free to Play

Pay to RNG

RNG to Win



That's where I see things going. I haven't even participated in the Orcinium holiday VMA because I honestly don't care anymore. The game has gotten so stale due to performance issues and RNG proc sets in PVP, that I honestly only log on to bid on my trader and manage the guild.

I have 0 incentive to play, and I've already completed a good playthrough of skyrim SE.

Looks like ESO will never be what it once was/going to be.

After all of this, i am wonderering if what are you doing @ ESO forum!

pattyLtd

Sorry to hear you've reached a point where you don't know what to do on ESO anymore OP.
I sometimes feel like that too.

The concerns you express about ESO's future is not what this is about, you just need a break from ESO IMHO.
As for ESO's future i don't think anybody knows including ZOS.

Just play it the way it is and if you really don't feel like playing it anymore then you don't have to.
It's just a game. If truelly bored of it there is no DLC in the world ever gonna big enough to fix that long term.

EvilCroc

Housing and death.

Sausage

JD2013 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

Conan Exiles, nuff said.

Ehhhh. Funcom.

They are doing it right this time, they focus on quality. Theres already lots of cool stuff, like Avatar, Purge, Thrall and Religion system. They are gonna hit the homerun just watch.

Clarkieson

Elder simulator online

No gameplay, just login in to a chatacter and watch it kill stuff for you.

The armour sets determine if you win pvp fights.

The future is bright

altemriel

can I have all your gear please ?


but wait, what was that no incentive to play? RNG proc sets in PVP, yes, so what, adapt and use them too, nothing bad on that. or build a build that is against them good.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Sigtric wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

Free to Play

Pay to RNG

RNG to Win



That's where I see things going. I haven't even participated in the Orcinium holiday VMA because I honestly don't care anymore. The game has gotten so stale due to performance issues and RNG proc sets in PVP, that I honestly only log on to bid on my trader and manage the guild.

I have 0 incentive to play, and I've already completed a good playthrough of skyrim SE.

Looks like ESO will never be what it once was/going to be.

Can I have your stuff?

Beat me to it.

Anyone remember when this game died in beta on PC? Or how it was never gonna come out on console? Or how every game that came out for the last 2 years was gonna kill it?

Let's be real. There are hundreds of people playing on every system every minute of the day and often thousands. Even if they did nothing there would still be people playing a year from now. We're probably 5 years from even having to entertain this idea. Calm down and eat some turkey. The sky isn't falling.