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Fishing

Hematian
Hematian
So i had a general question about fishing. I know that all maps have 12 trophy fish that can be caught, but in those 12, do they come in different waters? Or can i sit at one spot of river and potentially catch all 12 trophy fish?

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  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    Yeah I believe there are 3 fish per type of water
  • Vulsahdaal
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    Yeah I believe there are 3 fish per type of water

    Yes I think for the most part this is correct, Coldharbour is a exception though. All water seems to be foul there.
  • Nestor
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    As above, there are 4 types of water. Foul Water is the tricky one to find. Each Water type requires a different bait. But, if you use the right bait, you get a fish on each cast.

    Now, comes the rub. If you fish with a group of people, the chance for Greens and Blues goes up. In fact, if you hit the hole with 5 to 7 players, you get a Green or Blue fish on almost every cast, if you use the right bait. But, even 2 or 3 or 4 is good if you can.

    A Guide to Fishing in Tamriel, a book in the game, tells you about the waters and what baits to use.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Guide_to_Fishing_Tamriel

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Fishing
    Edited by Nestor on November 16, 2016 11:09PM
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  • Ourorboros
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    Here's another really good guide to fishing. Unless you're after fishing achievements, the only real reason to do it is to get Perfect Roe.
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  • Hematian
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    Nestor wrote: »
    As above, there are 4 types of water. Foul Water is the tricky one to find. Each Water type requires a different bait. But, if you use the right bait, you get a fish on each cast.

    Now, comes the rub. If you fish with a group of people, the chance for Greens and Blues goes up. In fact, if you hit the hole with 5 to 7 players, you get a Green or Blue fish on almost every cast, if you use the right bait. But, even 2 or 3 or 4 is good if you can.

    A Guide to Fishing in Tamriel, a book in the game, tells you about the waters and what baits to use.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Guide_to_Fishing_Tamriel

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Fishing

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  • Hematian
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    So if i fish with others, do i have more of a chance of getting a trophy fish as well?

    Im in this for the trophies, nothing more. The perfect roe is merely a plus.
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  • Astanphaeus
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    Not all zones have all type of water, but most do. There are usually 2 green and 1 blue fish for each of the 4 types of water I believe.
    Edited by Astanphaeus on November 17, 2016 1:14AM
  • baratron
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    Some zones lack salt water because they are landlocked. Craglorn has only River and Lake, so is quite easy to fish in since running water is always River and still water is always Lake.

    Other zones can be annoying to try to figure out. Foul water often has dead things in it, but not always. In some zones, you can go along what appears to be a single river and find spots that are variously Foul, Lake, and River.

    As already mentioned, Coldharbour only has Foul water.

    I highly recommend Votan's Fisherman addon to keep track of which fishing holes have which type of water. Rare Fish Tracker will help if you don't know where each fish is located. You can also use Votan's Fish Fillet to automatically fillet all of your stacks of white fish in the hope of getting a Perfect Roe.
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  • Rosveen
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    baratron wrote: »
    Some zones lack salt water because they are landlocked.
    And then there's Cyrodiil nowhere near any ocean, but with several salt water spots... deep in AD territory. x)
  • Yuls
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    And then there's Cyrodiil nowhere near any ocean, but with several salt water spots... )
    ...tears. ;)

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    How is Cyrodiil not near any ocean? Real Cyrodiil has Gold Coast and Topal Bay. There is high possibility that waters in Niben Bay are mixed salt and fresh water. It is called Brackish water, pretty common thing. And many fish species live in these.
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    How is Cyrodiil not near any ocean? Real Cyrodiil has Gold Coast and Topal Bay. There is high possibility that waters in Niben Bay are mixed salt and fresh water. It is called Brackish water, pretty common thing. And many fish species live in these.
    Yeah, it's possible. It's just not very intuitive when you look at the map and you're quite far from the nearest ocean shore - and a bit unfair to people from DC and EP. AD has convenient access to all types of fishing holes in Cyro, the other two not so much.
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    Enslaved wrote: »
    How is Cyrodiil not near any ocean? Real Cyrodiil has Gold Coast and Topal Bay. There is high possibility that waters in Niben Bay are mixed salt and fresh water. It is called Brackish water, pretty common thing. And many fish species live in these.
    Yeah, it's possible. It's just not very intuitive when you look at the map and you're quite far from the nearest ocean shore - and a bit unfair to people from DC and EP. AD has convenient access to all types of fishing holes in Cyro, the other two not so much.

    It's best to grab an AD fishing buddy for those. I went with my EP friend to get those and asked every AD that was getting too close to not attack him. We got the fish with no issue, other than my friend accidentally falling in the slaughterfish-filled water and having to run all the way back to the fishing spot xD

    I was lucky PvP people were nice to me. I wasn't attacked a single time while fishing in Cyrodiil (and often I fished alone) and got all of the fish.
    Edited by Abeille on November 17, 2016 11:34AM
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  • Enslaved
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    I agree about fairness. More than few times I was porc'd to death while fishing in Cyrodiil..
  • Junipus
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    How is Cyrodiil not near any ocean? Real Cyrodiil has Gold Coast and Topal Bay. There is high possibility that waters in Niben Bay are mixed salt and fresh water. It is called Brackish water, pretty common thing. And many fish species live in these.

    Reapers March has it's whole northern coast on the ocean, such that you can see the Gold Coast itself in theory and yet the fishing spots there are considered river spots.

    The add-ons that others have mentioned are really useful for fishing, but I'd also suggest using Destinations for mapping where those fishing spots are and where you need to fish after you've completed one of the 3-4 water categories.

    Fishing in a group does help speed it up, but if you're not fussed over the time it takes then you can normally clear a zone in 2-3 evenings fishing solo.
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  • Rosveen
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    Reaper's March is landlocked, there's only a river along its northern border. You might be thinking about Malabal Tor, but that one has saltwater fish.
    Junipus wrote: »
    Fishing in a group does help speed it up, but if you're not fussed over the time it takes then you can normally clear a zone in 2-3 evenings fishing solo.
    I wish I had caught Auridon ocean blue in 3 evenings. ;(

  • Junipus
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    Reaper's March is landlocked, there's only a river along its northern border. You might be thinking about Malabal Tor, but that one has saltwater fish.
    Junipus wrote: »
    Fishing in a group does help speed it up, but if you're not fussed over the time it takes then you can normally clear a zone in 2-3 evenings fishing solo.
    I wish I had caught Auridon ocean blue in 3 evenings. ;(

    You are correct, my bad.

    Sometimes the last blue fish can take a while and require multiple evenings (Auridon blue fish seems to be elusive too) but in general you can clear a zone in 2-3 evenings of fishing and might get lucky with all the blue fish for one water type in one fishing spot. It's completely random.
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  • Ourorboros
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    For those Cyrodiil oceans spots just outside the AD gates, you can fish from stealth. It's not perfect, but does help minimize the risk. You come out of stealth briefly when casting/reeling in, but if you constantly scan for AD riders, it helps. Carry multiple stacks of worms (at least 4-5), and bounce from the two fishing holes while stealthed. I was lucky enough to get my Cyrodiil fish in a few hours time using above.
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  • fgoron2000
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    Nestor wrote: »
    As above, there are 4 types of water. Foul Water is the tricky one to find. Each Water type requires a different bait. But, if you use the right bait, you get a fish on each cast.

    Now, comes the rub. If you fish with a group of people, the chance for Greens and Blues goes up. In fact, if you hit the hole with 5 to 7 players, you get a Green or Blue fish on almost every cast, if you use the right bait. But, even 2 or 3 or 4 is good if you can.

    A Guide to Fishing in Tamriel, a book in the game, tells you about the waters and what baits to use.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Guide_to_Fishing_Tamriel

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Fishing



    I'd always read this about the odds of getting the trophy fish going up when fishing in groups, but I got with a few of my guild-mates for the first time the other nite, and did some fishing for a couple hours in craglorn. For a good part of the time we were in a group of 3-5. Although I did get a few greens & a couple blues, it didn't seem to be a much higher percentage than what I normally experience when I fish solo. Is there any other factor, like level, or zone perhaps? or is it just your friendly neighborhood RNG striking again?

    Not a biggie because I fish more for roe than achievement, but this was just an opportunity to hang with the guildmates, since I'm nowhere near dungeoning with them for a while yet.
  • Teridaxus
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    If you are on pc, there are addons which shows the water type, which baits is requiered, which trophy fish is missing and so on. There is even one which autofillets all your caught fish which you get on the way to the archivement.
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    Nestor wrote: »
    As above, there are 4 types of water. Foul Water is the tricky one to find.

    Thinking of Cyrodiil, that's a very... uh... "diplomatic" way to phrase it. ;)
  • Flynch
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    fgoron2000 wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    As above, there are 4 types of water. Foul Water is the tricky one to find. Each Water type requires a different bait. But, if you use the right bait, you get a fish on each cast.

    Now, comes the rub. If you fish with a group of people, the chance for Greens and Blues goes up. In fact, if you hit the hole with 5 to 7 players, you get a Green or Blue fish on almost every cast, if you use the right bait. But, even 2 or 3 or 4 is good if you can.

    A Guide to Fishing in Tamriel, a book in the game, tells you about the waters and what baits to use.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Guide_to_Fishing_Tamriel

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Fishing



    I'd always read this about the odds of getting the trophy fish going up when fishing in groups, but I got with a few of my guild-mates for the first time the other nite, and did some fishing for a couple hours in craglorn. For a good part of the time we were in a group of 3-5. Although I did get a few greens & a couple blues, it didn't seem to be a much higher percentage than what I normally experience when I fish solo. Is there any other factor, like level, or zone perhaps? or is it just your friendly neighborhood RNG striking again?

    Not a biggie because I fish more for roe than achievement, but this was just an opportunity to hang with the guildmates, since I'm nowhere near dungeoning with them for a while yet.

    Each player adds 5% extra chance to getting a rarer fish drop. This caps out at 25%. So it's not a huge difference, but it is noticeable. Of course, RNG means it could amount to absolutely nothing!
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    Attempting this on the PS4 - so no nice add-ons to tell me what I need - trial & error and hand written out lists. And some hopeful guessing when it comes to water types. But have the intense satifaction of manually crossing names off a list (small pleasures).

    Find it's a pleasant change from running around madly especially if been playing pvp.

    But can someone just clarify <where> in Cyrodiil the hard AD fishing spots are please - haven't fished there yet.
  • NASH99
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    I mostly used fishingintamriel.com on my quest for the Master Fisher achievement. Also the fishing page on uesp.net.
  • Rosveen
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    Hallothiel wrote: »
    But can someone just clarify <where> in Cyrodiil the hard AD fishing spots are please - haven't fished there yet.
    Two under the bridge just north of the Gate of Mnem, a few more further east in the town of Bravil.
  • fgoron2000
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    Flynch wrote: »
    fgoron2000 wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    As above, there are 4 types of water. Foul Water is the tricky one to find. Each Water type requires a different bait. But, if you use the right bait, you get a fish on each cast.

    Now, comes the rub. If you fish with a group of people, the chance for Greens and Blues goes up. In fact, if you hit the hole with 5 to 7 players, you get a Green or Blue fish on almost every cast, if you use the right bait. But, even 2 or 3 or 4 is good if you can.

    A Guide to Fishing in Tamriel, a book in the game, tells you about the waters and what baits to use.

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:A_Guide_to_Fishing_Tamriel

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Fishing



    I'd always read this about the odds of getting the trophy fish going up when fishing in groups, but I got with a few of my guild-mates for the first time the other nite, and did some fishing for a couple hours in craglorn. For a good part of the time we were in a group of 3-5. Although I did get a few greens & a couple blues, it didn't seem to be a much higher percentage than what I normally experience when I fish solo. Is there any other factor, like level, or zone perhaps? or is it just your friendly neighborhood RNG striking again?

    Not a biggie because I fish more for roe than achievement, but this was just an opportunity to hang with the guildmates, since I'm nowhere near dungeoning with them for a while yet.

    Each player adds 5% extra chance to getting a rarer fish drop. This caps out at 25%. So it's not a huge difference, but it is noticeable. Of course, RNG means it could amount to absolutely nothing!



    I see, thanks very much. That also explains why the sweet spot for fishing for trophies always seems to ref groups of 5...

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