Achievements account wide

leandro.800ub17_ESO

Hi ESO community and ZOS

I know this is another one of the same topic but i would like to point out some benefits from implementing it

Benefits from implementation:

-Remove the need to do daily tasks with same toon: This takes freedom of choise to take any of your toons out and explore.
The most tipical situation is that you have to take your toon that has more achivs if you are asked to do a trial or dungeon that need certain roles and you still need the achivs in it A lso it forces you to seperate PVP because not always your best PVP toon is your best PVE or the role is diferent.

-Implementation of Rewards:
-Since pets or mementos or any other rewards are acount wide if ZOS (hopefully) decides to reward players for exploration and achievements they also need to be acount wide. Some achivs related to skins or colors and already acount wide so i dont see the wrong in it
-When housing comes to life being hable to show certain item related to achivs could be implemented. The house is acount related not toon

Sure it takes out the feel of completion from one toon but this can be done by simply showing the % of achivs of your total that belongs to each toon and above the date of completion of the achiv the name of the toon that did it. Titles can be limited to the toon that unlocked that ahiv

I would like to know what is the community thought on it and specialy what you think are the bad parts on making happen / why you dont want it

Regards,

Tandor

No thanks, for the reasons already given in the countless similar threads.

Sovjet

Tandor wrote: »

No thanks, for the reasons already given in the countless similar threads.

I agree

emily3989

Kind of weird how achievement rewards are account wide but the achievements themselves are not. One of my Alts is a werewolf but my main achievement hunting vampire won't get it this one completed, but my lvl 1 alt that has killed zero mobs can tote the title "executioner". IMO the whole system is whack.

newtinmpls

leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »

-Remove the need to do daily tasks with same toon: This takes freedom of choise to take any of your toons out and explore.

You have freedom to choose. If you don't use it, that's on you.

Malthorne

I would love to see this happen,however I accept that the community likes the system the way it is. There is so much vocal opposition to account wide achievements but I have literally not seen one legitimate reason not to have them account wide. I guess the real reason is that people love seeing the level 10 hero achievement over and over lol. Perhaps they need that validation, i don't know.

Taleof2Cities

Tandor wrote: »

No thanks, for the reasons already given in the countless similar threads.

^This.^

Tandor

Malthorne wrote: »

I would love to see this happen,however I accept that the community likes the system the way it is. There is so much vocal opposition to account wide achievements but I have literally not seen one legitimate reason not to have them account wide. I guess the real reason is that people love seeing the level 10 hero achievement over and over lol. Perhaps they need that validation, i don't know.

One perfectly legitimate reason is that some players like to develop their characters individually.

Another perfectly legitimate reason is that some players like to develop their characters differently. I would not, for example, want my holy paladin style templar saddled with achievements earned through the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood (which content he is not doing) by my dark elf assassin style nightblade.

For these and other reasons I am against account-wide achievements. Personally, I'd do away with shared champion points and dye unlocks but I accept the account-wide system as we have it without wanting it to be extended.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

My vote would be to have both options. In other words, leave the character achievement tab exactly how it is, but add an account wide achievement section that shows your cumulative progress towards all achievements. The only issues would be how to address Titles and Dyes. I would suggest that Dyes be account wide (as they are now), so all progress from you account could work towards unlocking the dye. Titles should be left to the specific character. No need for a bunch of Lvl 4 stormproofs running around.

leandro.800ub17_ESO

I dont understand . I can have a Skin from finishing a Vet trial in a lv 10 char but not link an achivment that was done by another toon ?? Not a valid reason
Also if a title can only put on by the actual unlock of the achiv in that char i dont know why cant it count for a global ammount.

I do have more than 21k achiv point but i dont want always to use same toon to grab those never ending slayer achivs on dungeons or have the bad luck of having a 0% chance ogre toe drop on another char.

I am forced to PVP with same char
I am force to fish with same char

starkerealm

emily3989 wrote: »

Kind of weird how achievement rewards are account wide but the achievements themselves are not. One of my Alts is a werewolf but my main achievement hunting vampire won't get it this one completed, but my lvl 1 alt that has killed zero mobs can tote the title "executioner". IMO the whole system is whack.

...actually, they can't. Titles are character specific. Same reason I've only got two characters that can use Daedric Lord Slayer. They can all use the dye, but the title requires you've actually finished the achievement.

Skinzz

Can my level 10 alt be a grand overlord? Hell nawh!

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »

I dont understand . I can have a Skin from finishing a Vet trial in a lv 10 char but not link an achivment that was done by another toon ?? Not a valid reason
Also if a title can only put on by the actual unlock of the achiv in that char i dont know why cant it count for a global ammount.

I do have more than 21k achiv point but i dont want always to use same toon to grab those never ending slayer achivs on dungeons or have the bad luck of having a 0% chance ogre toe drop on another char.

I am forced to PVP with same char
I am force to fish with same char

The skin doesn't show you know how to play that particular class like the achievement does. You can get the achievement and skin on a class you know how to play very well and apply it to the other class but not know how to play the class well enough to complete that content again. Applying the skin to a class you don't know very well doesn't show skill. For example I got the Maelstrom Baron polymorph from vMA on my stamina DK. I can apply it to my NB but that doesn't mean I can complete vMA on my nightblade.

Iluvrien

Has anything changed with regards to the achievement system that might impact on my desire to treat my different characters like different people?

No. So, it's still a no to account wide achievements.

TheShadowScout

Tandor wrote: »

No thanks, for the reasons already given in the countless similar threads.

Agreed. But then I would, having made several rants about this in the past...

There is the "individual characters" argument. Yes, some people would like the game to treat all their different characters as one for purposes of achievements and -all- connected to those (skyshards, exploration, motiv learning, trait research, titles, alliance rank, world boss completions, whatever...), but that is pure lazyness in my eyes - if an achievement is important enough for you, you can choose to do it in multiple characters. And if you feel you cannot be bothered, you can choose to have your alt do without.

There is the "different characters" argument. I am very much for that one, and wish the game had more "either-or" choices for characters... I'd love it if my "paladin-type" craftsmistress would be barred from outlaw refugees or joining the TG and BD (not that I ever intend to with her, she's my goodie-two-greaves character after all); and the same reflects on the achievements I want with her...
A sub-argument of that is some players with a highlevel alt wanting to show off their endgame titles on their newbie toons, and everyone else is going "NOPE" to that idea, because they happen to think that such achievements are too closely tied to a character and their makeup.

There is the "checking on characters progress" argument. If all achievements were shared, how would one check on which skyshards this new alt has missed? If skyshards and such were shared too, that would be quite unfair to non-alted people. And way more boring...

Then there is the "things to do" argument. Because IF achievements were all account wide, at some point, people sit around and wonder... what is left? And then start threads on the forums with a "this game is boring, there is nothing left to do" theme... as it is now, it can occasionally be quite interesting to revisit some achievement hunt you completed a year ago with a new character.

And finally then there is the "Enough already" argument. ESO has more account wide goodies then any other online game I ever played, with the champion system, and while I think that is a pretty nidfty thing for the players, I also think that this is as far as they should go with catering to that kind of player.


That being said...


There is -ONE- thing I would like: An account achievement tab, opened from the character selection screen.
That tab would show which character achieved what achievement when... (and unlocking the dye there) and maybe have some extra account wide goodies for multiple achievement completion - like, play through the game with all four classes, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, gain achievement X in all three alliances, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, etc.
Those account wide rewards could be more dyes, or other cosmetic stuff - tatoos, adornments, costumes, mount variations, pets etc. Stuff that generally is account wide in the first place.

baratron

TheShadowScout wrote: »

There is -ONE- thing I would like: An account achievement tab, opened from the character selection screen.
That tab would show which character achieved what achievement when... (and unlocking the dye there) and maybe have some extra account wide goodies for multiple achievement completion - like, play through the game with all four classes, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, gain achievement X in all three alliances, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, etc.

I love this idea.

It would be the best of both worlds - allow individual Achievements on each character, while giving you the chance to see instantly in one place which of your characters still need a particular Achievement. I currently have an eight-page document with all of the Veteran Dungeon Achievements for my six characters, and I'm writing them down when I get them. Gods only know how many pages it would be if I tried to list every single Achievement in the entire game! Having that in one place, automatically collated by the game itself, would be great.

I really like the idea of cross-character Achievements like playing through the game with all four classes - that is great. Also getting "difficult" Achievements like Veteran Trial completion on all four classes, or getting to a certain PvP rank in all three Alliances.

schroed360

baratron wrote: »

TheShadowScout wrote: »

There is -ONE- thing I would like: An account achievement tab, opened from the character selection screen.
That tab would show which character achieved what achievement when... (and unlocking the dye there) and maybe have some extra account wide goodies for multiple achievement completion - like, play through the game with all four classes, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, gain achievement X in all three alliances, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, etc.

I love this idea.

It would be the best of both worlds - allow individual Achievements on each character, while giving you the chance to see instantly in one place which of your characters still need a particular Achievement. I currently have an eight-page document with all of the Veteran Dungeon Achievements for my six characters, and I'm writing them down when I get them. Gods only know how many pages it would be if I tried to list every single Achievement in the entire game! Having that in one place, automatically collated by the game itself, would be great.

I really like the idea of cross-character Achievements like playing through the game with all four classes - that is great. Also getting "difficult" Achievements like Veteran Trial completion on all four classes, or getting to a certain PvP rank in all three Alliances.

Exactly what i have in mind when talking account wide achievement. But since to my knowedge only ff11 and 14( also Wow maybe in a weird manner) a lot of poeple seems to not understanding the concept i présumé.

AlnilamE

leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »

Hi ESO community and ZOS

I know this is another one of the same topic but i would like to point out some benefits from implementing it

Benefits from implementation:

-Remove the need to do daily tasks with same toon: This takes freedom of choise to take any of your toons out and explore.
The most tipical situation is that you have to take your toon that has more achivs if you are asked to do a trial or dungeon that need certain roles and you still need the achivs in it A lso it forces you to seperate PVP because not always your best PVP toon is your best PVE or the role is diferent.

-Implementation of Rewards:
-Since pets or mementos or any other rewards are acount wide if ZOS (hopefully) decides to reward players for exploration and achievements they also need to be acount wide. Some achivs related to skins or colors and already acount wide so i dont see the wrong in it
-When housing comes to life being hable to show certain item related to achivs could be implemented. The house is acount related not toon

Sure it takes out the feel of completion from one toon but this can be done by simply showing the % of achivs of your total that belongs to each toon and above the date of completion of the achiv the name of the toon that did it. Titles can be limited to the toon that unlocked that ahiv

I would like to know what is the community thought on it and specialy what you think are the bad parts on making happen / why you dont want it

Regards,

The only way I would go for this is if it was a new section in the Character selection screen that aggregated achievements that have been fully completed on an individual characters, while still keeping individual character achievement tables as they are.

And I say this as someone who has killed a million harpies on my main Achievement toon while 2 of my alts have gotten the Flawless Tailfeather completely by accident.

Otherwise no. My characters are individuals and they each go about the world in their own way.

It's also fun to get an achievement on a different character that you got on your "main". I have 2 characters that have the Daedric Lord Slayer and the Treasure Hunter achievements and I'm working on both of those on a third.

megasurge93

I would love to have the majority of achievements account wide. It would remove certain desires to want to alliance, IMO. There are a variety of achievements that are practically impossible to complete on one character only and if you're an achievement hunter, then it becomes more or less disenchanting. I definitely think that in some cases there are some achievements that make sense to only be character specific, but most don't. I don't always want to have to play one character just because all achievement points can only be on one character. I would like to switch between various characters depending on my mood, yet still acquire cumulative achievement points. Right now, it's basically almost always the same character or forget it. Even my friends that I play with get bored of that. LOL.

megasurge93

baratron wrote: »

TheShadowScout wrote: »

There is -ONE- thing I would like: An account achievement tab, opened from the character selection screen.
That tab would show which character achieved what achievement when... (and unlocking the dye there) and maybe have some extra account wide goodies for multiple achievement completion - like, play through the game with all four classes, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, gain achievement X in all three alliances, get extra account wide achievement and some unlock as reward, etc.

I love this idea.

It would be the best of both worlds - allow individual Achievements on each character, while giving you the chance to see instantly in one place which of your characters still need a particular Achievement. I currently have an eight-page document with all of the Veteran Dungeon Achievements for my six characters, and I'm writing them down when I get them. Gods only know how many pages it would be if I tried to list every single Achievement in the entire game! Having that in one place, automatically collated by the game itself, would be great.

I really like the idea of cross-character Achievements like playing through the game with all four classes - that is great. Also getting "difficult" Achievements like Veteran Trial completion on all four classes, or getting to a certain PvP rank in all three Alliances.

Actually, yes...this would be great!

Vlad9425

Nothing wrong with the system we currently have. It let’s you see what achievements you’ve completed on each different character and class.

VaranisArano

Wow.

Can we maybe not practice thread necromancy from November 2016?

nickl413

At first I thought, you gotta be out of your mind to think that ZOS would make acheivements account wide after adding skill trees and skyshards to the crown store, something that would be completely pointless if one of your toons already has that stuff and now is shared with all toons. Then I realized necromancers roam the forums.

Tryxus

VaranisArano wrote: »

Wow.

Can we maybe not practice thread necromancy from November 2016?

Now that the Necromancer has been released, their powers have been growing

Soon, they'll be able to revive threads from Nov 2014

AcadianPaladin

Though not a big deal, I'd be happy to see account wide achievements. My reasons for it place me in a real minority of players though so I get (and accept) that many don't want it.

My characters are, for roleplay purposes, all the same elf - just differing classes/specs. They are all Bosmer, all look identical, all have the same name (with only minimal variations required by the game), wear the same outfit, ride the same mount, travel with the same pet. . . She literally approaches the game thinking as the same character and views which class/spec she plays as no more significant than what hairstyle she wears for any given session. In fact, she is the same basic elf that spent years in Oblivion before learning time travel, moving to Skyrim for several years and then on to ESO over three years ago.

My style of play is required because ESO is my one and only ever MMO and I quickly learned that if you get too focused on one class, the game will nerf it away from you. So viewing playing the same elf as different classes is an adjustment that has kept me from nerf-rage quitting. For example, if she only played as a magsorc then the latest 'update' would have generated a rage quit of ESO. Given our approach, however, she is content to play other class/specs that (for the moment) continue to be enjoyable.

iris56

If you're on PC there is a lovely add on called Kyoma's Global Achievements that lets you view other characters achievements and gives you a global achievement summary as well. It should definitely be in the base game.

WeerW3ir

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