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What will Zenimax attempt to balance first?

kaithuzar
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If other, please explain what.
Edited by kaithuzar on November 16, 2016 3:39AM
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What will Zenimax attempt to balance first? 82 votes

Class skills
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Gear sets
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Other
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Gear sets
    Gear sets are an obvious issue.

    If i were to make a list of skills in order for tweaks/fixes it would go:
    1:EoTS (returned to old damage model)
    2:Radiant, Poison Inj (25% executes)
    3:Fear (the delayed break fixed)
    4:Hurricanes (damage reduced 25%)
    5:DBoS and FlawlessDB damage models swapped.
    6: Reduce damage of all gap closers by 25%
    7: Cloak (Fix breaking to heavy attacks, gap closers and anything else i may be forgetting to mention breaking it.)
    8: Camo Hunter.(Rework! Just try to reveal someone in medium sneaking around i dare you... its laughable. )
    9: Silver Shards (Buff or remove the reduced damage to other targets hit.)
    10: Power extraction (give it something to make it cool, nobody is making stamina sap builds).

    Then see how it plays out. Remeber that these are my opinions.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on November 16, 2016 5:36AM
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I haven't even heard of any balance plans from them .
  • Valykc
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    What is this word you speak of????? "Balance" ??? I've never heard of such things!
  • Dasovaruilos
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    Gear sets
    I think we will see gear balance first.
  • Zinaroth
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    They will make Stamina Templars even more useless.
  • Zaldan
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    ZO$ will balance profit margin before all else ;)
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  • Vaoh
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    What will they atempt to balance first? Tbh I just don't know.

    They are great at balancing PvE! Generally the PvE content in ESO is awesome right now imo. Definitely not going to start complaining about PvE because I'm happy with it.

    But PvP? ZOS has yet to prove they know what is even happening. Something like Tremorscale+Black Rose+Viper's Sting should of never been possible. Any Dev that allows something like that to exist, along with other proc sets, are either:
    1) Not in touch with how PvP really works
    2) Uncaring of how broken PvP has become

    So to ZOS I say.... surprise me. Surprise me and actually bring back the PvP population a bit.
  • Minalan
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    This is ZOS we're talking about. Their designers aren't very good at what they do sometimes.

    1. I expect more pointless overpowered sets. Magicka Tremorscale anyone? Now it's balanced!
    2. ZOS will probably overpower magicka DK's by a factor of ten. I'm already dusting mine off. :smile:
    3. I expect to see EoTS and the whole destro ult made completely useless. Other than the ult nerf - They won't touch anything else in destro staff line, even if it is needed.
    4. Light armor will be ignored. Again. Some pinhead will look at how many people are using it and conclude that it's all good. Thus ignoring things like how many deaths on average light armor users have. How easy they are to kill from stealth, etc.

  • STEVIL
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    You dont balance one thimg, its all together. They will put together a package which will try to shuffle a bunch of things towards a new equilibrium.
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  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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  • cpuScientist
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    Minalan wrote: »
    This is ZOS we're talking about. Their designers aren't very good at what they do sometimes.

    1. I expect more pointless overpowered sets. Magicka Tremorscale anyone? Now it's balanced!
    2. ZOS will probably overpower magicka DK's by a factor of ten. I'm already dusting mine off. :smile:
    3. I expect to see EoTS and the whole destro ult made completely useless. Other than the ult nerf - They won't touch anything else in destro staff line, even if it is needed.
    4. Light armor will be ignored. Again. Some pinhead will look at how many people are using it and conclude that it's all good. Thus ignoring things like how many deaths on average light armor users have. How easy they are to kill from stealth, etc.

    PvE they are already top 4 dps. Probably top 2. PvP I know they are not the easiest to use. In duels they are fine, but in open world they are not. To survive you have to go heavy to kill you have to go light. It's just off for them.
  • Kram8ion
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    Gear sets
    But if you put one crown crate in one hand and cash in the other what's the proc balance %?
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  • ForsakenSin
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    I don't mean to offend anybody this is just a joke ect
    I don't know why but when i read about balance and great ect i heard this in my head and thought it was funny

    " Wrobel will make a great balance – and nobody makes balance better than Wrobel , believe me – and he will balance them very inexpensively. He will make a great, great balance on our class and gear sets, and he will make ESO players pay for that balance . Mark my words.”


    On a serious note balance is needed lets just hope it will be done the right way
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  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    Gear sets
    I am sure there are many things need to balance PVP, but I would probably start with making proc sets not affect players unless it comes from a monster set. Much like how Vicious Death only affects players and not NPCs, but reversed.
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  • Ganj
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    Gear sets
    Gear sets, PROC sets, heavy armor sets.. I actually dont believe that any of the classes "op", i only find most of the drop sets broken or ruining the all fun in this game with those stupid procs and everything.
  • Gothren
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    Gear sets
    timed burst has always been useful in pvp. However, ZOS has taken it to a whole new level with these proc sets. I don't know what they were thinking. Some times I envision my self walking into ZOS's workplace and pretty much doing this.

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  • Mojmir
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    Their bank account, crown crates are coming
  • RiddleDiddle
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    Didn't they say at PAX or something like that they will focus on Class balance first for the new update when housing will be implemented?

    Would be the best choice tho, first atleast SOME class balance, before fixing anything else. Powerful sets will keep coming anyway and the proc sets will stay for a while, so i rather wanna see some balance in classes.
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  • Saint_Bud
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    Moat people just talk about the proc sets, but they have no idea what that builds make so powerfull. It needs a balance in some skill, resurce manegment, shure some sets, to high stats and generall to high dps in pve. The clasess in pve are fine, but the dps gab from the best to not so good players are to large. That make it hard to make new content, because for one its brain afk and other its fine.
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  • Derra
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    What i think they should balance in order of importance:

    1. permanent smeak/invisibility
    2. Snares and roots (imo both need to be combined into one effect category [root=100% snare] and provide a seperate cc immunity)
    3. gearsets
    4. purges
    5. cp system
    6. weaponabilities (atleast make magica weapon passives work on all skills like stamina weapons do)
    7. classabilities
    8. grpui (no grpmarkers for ppl out of range)
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  • Cinbri
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    People wearing broken sets in attempt to cover spot in broken class skills.
  • bowmanz607
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    I think they attempt to balance everything at once. It seems like there new policy is to balance once a year and cal it a quarterly update. then we will wait another year to fix the new issues.

    They really need to go back to introducing balance updates on a semi regular basis. this whole waiting thing is crazy. I think they just threw up their arms and said we cant balance so lets just make some changes once a year
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Gear sets
    They'll probably bring in more proc sets in order to spread the cancer further.
  • 2ndcovenant_ESO
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    I hope that it will be classes. I really like the idea of playing a magicka nightblade but from Everything I hear, they generally do everything sub-par. They are decent at alot of things but not really good at anything.

    Other than that, I hope they make Pelinal's Aptitude actually worth using.
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  • KingYogi415
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    More proc sets incoming!
  • WillhelmBlack
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    Crown Store profits.
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  • Moltyr
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    Crown store > Everything else.
  • Savos_Saren
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    I'm pretty sure Rich Lambert said that they were working on making mDKs more viable. And I also think he mentioned working on ice-oriented abilities.

    Edit: It was Wrobel on this Reddit AMA:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/546mo4/welcome_to_the_one_tamriel_eso_ama/

    "Yup, we definitely have planned a good list of buffs for magicka DK and also balance in general for magicka vs stamina DPS."


    "Yup we definitely plan on adding a bunch of new frost abilities in the future. "


    Edit #2: Also, Wrobel mentions that they're working on destro staff abilities and the discrepancy with the missing 5th bonus piece when you use a two handed weapon:

    "Yeah we want to look at improving the destruction staff and making the play styles of fire/frost/shock more distinct.

    With the 5 piece bonus that's not just a magicka issue, also pertains to bows and 2h. We are aware of the discrepancy in set bonuses between weapon types and have been looking into possible solutions."


    Edited by Savos_Saren on November 22, 2016 1:50PM
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    You must be new here, balance is not going to happen because balance is just pvp'rs trying to ruin the game for care bears. ZOS is busy working on important things like a new mount for you to buy with real money.
  • Lord-Otto
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    They will remove proc sets and balance Eye of the Storm by halving the damage of staves. When asked, Wroebel will tell you that a staff has range and is therefore balanced. He will also triple the range of gapclosers and ZOS will introduce the new ice atronach mounts that you can buy for 5000 crowns with a change of 5% to actually get one from your purchase.
    We will also be presented a chart showing how 99% of all people playing WoW, Diablo, ESO and CoD received a sharpened inferno Maelstrom staff in their respective game the last two weeks.

    But for realsies, gear.
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