Spriggan VS Leviathan VS Toothrow VS Hundings

wellerrocks

I mean, this is for VMA, and of course I'd love 5 pc VO but I haven't got that yet, what's the best instead?

Kutsuu

Has a whole VMA section: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/stamina-nightblade-pve-dps-guide-for-dark-brotherhood/

caperon

wellerrocks wrote: »

I mean, this is for VMA, and of course I'd love 5 pc VO but I haven't got that yet, what's the best instead?

There is no real replacement for 5 pieces VO. It lets you go full dmg and have endless stamina anyway.

Said that, i would use spriggan on classes without access to major fracture (templar and sorcerer). For DK and NB id go with hundings/nmg/twice born whatever likes you more with agility jelwelry, adjust your enchants to what is confortable to you, but its a painfull experience without the extra stamina VO gives.

Gorilla

Is VO the dame as Vicious Serpent now?

altemriel

what is the meaning of abbreviation "VO" pls?

kylewwefan

Quick serpent is close to Vicious Ophidian, but without the minor slayer. Don't remember off hand which o es do what but there's 2 or 3 watered down versions of VO. Quick gives you speed, twice fanged adds weapon damage proc thing, poisonous does some whacky DOT damage. I think. Might have them messed up.

DannyLV702

altemriel wrote: »

what is the meaning of abbreviation "VO" pls?

Vicious Ophidian

Lashiing

vo's biggest advantage is the stam regen
if you dont have this i would try:
5x nmg, 5x barkskin, 2x veli
or
5x nmg, 2x veli, 3x agil, 2x stam recovery

acw37162

If you have a perfect monster helm setup meaning 1 light piece and 1 heavy piece;

I would go with 5 Spriggans 5 Levithan

Unless I needed an extra skill slot, don't have weapon power potions, and still wanted major savagery sub out levithan for toothrow.

Levithan > Toothrow

The only reason to use Toothrow would be you don't have access or want to spend the money (it gets very expensive) to continually run weapon pots and you need a skill spot open. If you meet the criteria then toothrow can help you but Levithan is a better option most of the time. The exception to this rule stamina Templar because your going to get major savagery from jabs.

Spriggans > everything else you mentioned by a rather large margin especially for VMA where your by yourself and won't have help stripping armor and very unlikely to reduce armor enough for 4 K penetration. It to matter.

If you don't have a perfect monster helm setup go with a crafted a set Night Mothers, Hundings, Twice Born Star and craft a heavy and a medium the 6% health fron the undaunted passives will save you mor often then you realize.

salmoncat33

I know its not on the list but... I love my black rose for stam dps in vMA.

Lashiing

salmoncat33 wrote: »

I know its not on the list but... I love my black rose for stam dps in vMA.

which trait do you use?

R_K

If you are having a sustain issue during VMA, and you do not have Vicious Ophidian, I would suggest:

2 Velidreth
5 Hundings
5 Hulking Draugr (for max stamina)

2 Daggers (hundings, sharpened)
1 Bow (hundings, sharpened)

...and switch to the Hot Pocket food (the blue one with Max Health & ~500 Stamina Recovery)

salmoncat33

Lashiing wrote: »

salmoncat33 wrote: »

I know its not on the list but... I love my black rose for stam dps in vMA.

which trait do you use?

I run well fitted for vMA i think i have 1 piece that is still impen but we all know how rng is.