Non-Combat and combat pets

KimoBitz

So,I just downloaded the one tamriel update on my ps4 and I know Im too late,But I had school and exams and now Im finally free.Anyway I saw alot of new changes from the new menu loading screen to an intresting tab in the collection menu called"Non-combat pets".seeing this striked a theory to mind.Will zos ever add combat pets ?From what I see adding this might tell us that zos is working on combat pets.Tell me what you think

Greifenherz

I think by their definition combat pets are the familiars in the Daedric Summoning skill line of sorcerers.
This is because there is a keybind for combat pets which affects these familiars.

Epona222

The name of the vanity pets page in your collectibles screen was changed to "Non-Combat Pets" to distinguish them from Sorc summons. There are already combat pets in the game if you play a Sorceror. It does not mean that there are more combat pets coming, if you want that play a Sorc.

Skcarkden

Greifenherz wrote: »

I think by their definition combat pets are the familiars in the Daedric Summoning skill line of sorcerers.
This is because there is a keybind for combat pets which affects these familiars.

So the real question is, why the re-wording all of a sudden for the collections pets? It made no impact on anything to re-name them as non-combat, but meanwhile i know of one armour set that gives extra magicka with a pet out... doesn't seem to specify combar or non combat pet but i'm going to assume it's specifically combat pets.

ArchMikem

It's not even appropriate to call the Summoned Daedra "Pets". They're not Pets, they're creatures from Oblivion forced to your service until you either press the button again, or they die.

Epona222

Skcarkden wrote: »

Greifenherz wrote: »

I think by their definition combat pets are the familiars in the Daedric Summoning skill line of sorcerers.
This is because there is a keybind for combat pets which affects these familiars.

So the real question is, why the re-wording all of a sudden for the collections pets? It made no impact on anything to re-name them as non-combat, but meanwhile i know of one armour set that gives extra magicka with a pet out... doesn't seem to specify combar or non combat pet but i'm going to assume it's specifically combat pets.

Have you never tried to talk a newbie through the basic stuff in this game? For me it is a relief to have them renamed, because it saves me having to explain that when people are talking about pets it could mean 1 of 2 different things. And that a "pet build" does not involve sanguines goat. This saves untold confusion.

Skcarkden

Epona222 wrote: »

Skcarkden wrote: »

Greifenherz wrote: »

I think by their definition combat pets are the familiars in the Daedric Summoning skill line of sorcerers.
This is because there is a keybind for combat pets which affects these familiars.

So the real question is, why the re-wording all of a sudden for the collections pets? It made no impact on anything to re-name them as non-combat, but meanwhile i know of one armour set that gives extra magicka with a pet out... doesn't seem to specify combar or non combat pet but i'm going to assume it's specifically combat pets.

Have you never tried to talk a newbie through the basic stuff in this game? For me it is a relief to have them renamed, because it saves me having to explain that when people are talking about pets it could mean 1 of 2 different things. And that a "pet build" does not involve sanguines goat. This saves untold confusion.

Well, unfortunately when people cater for idiots you tend to only get them

KimoBitz

What I think is that zos is working on combat pets

KingYogi415

I agree. I think combat pets will be in the future as well.

Cheers!

JasonSilverSpring

Combat pets would create huge balance issues and if they put them in crown store it would be pay to win. I highly doubt it will happen. They just labeled it to make it clear that cosmetic pets have no impact on combat.

WalksonGraves

Combat pets include shades, sorc summons, spider spawns from trapping webs, etc.

KimoBitz

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Combat pets include shades, sorc summons, spider spawns from trapping webs, etc.

These are not pets

KimoBitz

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

Combat pets would create huge balance issues and if they put them in crown store it would be pay to win. I highly doubt it will happen. They just labeled it to make it clear that cosmetic pets have no impact on combat.

ZOS would figure it out

WalksonGraves

KimoBitz wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Combat pets include shades, sorc summons, spider spawns from trapping webs, etc.

These are not pets

Yes, they are. You can argue semantics but I'm guessing you have to look it up first.

Oh and monster set summons also count.

Supersuperguy

I suspect combat pets will be added at some point.

Makes no sense to have a trusty tiger that is obviously de-fanged and de-clawed.....

Players will probably grow tired of the show dog pets and they may introduce combat variations.

Didn't Morrowind have a taming ability? Maybe a DLC will introduce a tamer class, more money can be made with cash show pets though.

Balanced issues? In an MMO? Ya don't say......I don't know a balanced MMO to date; I am not saying they do not exist, but a lot are unbalanced but not game breaking.

If all else fails, make them solo only. "Balance" issue solved.

Every other MMO has combat pets, why not.

Bouldercleave

I would like my alliance war dog to at lease BARK or GROWL or something while I'm fighting. He just kinda hangs out.

I don't want him to actually fight as a combat pet (well I DO, but we know why he doesn't), but he could at least act pissed off or protective.

Abeille

Bouldercleave wrote: »

I would like my alliance war dog to at lease BARK or GROWL or something while I'm fighting. He just kinda hangs out.

I don't want him to actually fight as a combat pet (well I DO, but we know why he doesn't), but he could at least act pissed off or protective.

That would be kinda hilarious.

They are little cuties already. Imagine them shying away from danger and just barking at it while you do all the work. I love this idea.

Unsent.Soul

KimoBitz wrote: »

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

Combat pets would create huge balance issues and if they put them in crown store it would be pay to win. I highly doubt it will happen. They just labeled it to make it clear that cosmetic pets have no impact on combat.

ZOS would figure it out

I take it you haven't been with us for long?

jarnkoldur

Just to add my two drakes to this converstation; should they decide to add (non-sorceror) combat pets, I hope they put variations on old favorites. You know spice the more well known pets like Pokemon did with the Alola variants.

Here is my take on the Vvardenfell Scamp variant...

Supersuperguy

That is a not a bad idea actually, they need to do something at least, those are so well behaved tigers and panthers to just contain their inner beast while watching the owner get mauled.

There needs to be an assist option, or a meter which makes the ferocious pets jump in over a period of time until calmed while cats and smaller dogs growl/hiss. What panther watches violence without being a part of it?

Sorry, but it just looks so crazy. I get that it is a video game, but man it looks silly.

I understand the folks whom do not want them, but something needs to be done for the sake of silliness. it is not a big deal but looks strange.

Herelacfreahelm

Well I for one support the addition of some limited number of combat pets that could be purchased from the crown store like these animals which are already in the game like a lion, a bear, a wolf that I know of so far and a few other animals would be cool like a gorilla, a alligator, and an eagle.

I hope that the developers will make this happen and address any balancing issues and do this right. This would just add more interesting gameplay to an already great game.

Beardimus

They already have pets, as other posters have said (Spec summons ARE considered pets, read the wording of things like the Necro or Hunt set it references them. The reason they made this change is due to bad wording on several armour sets stating things like if you have a pet active gain Xxxx Magika, people logged alot of cases / posts on this forum saying it wasnt working when their Goat etc was active. So they changed the pet name to make it clear, rather than change all other references.

Supersuperguy

But if vanity or non-combat pets where the only kind of pets in the crown store there will be no need to distinguish them. By default players know pets in the store are non-combat. they could have just said vanity; we all know by know vanity is the standard wording for useless pets.

LMar

They renamed them so people wouldn't think you can buy pets from the crown store that deal damage.