What ever happened to the Nibenay Valley Zone?

Vanthras79

I some some pre-beta map that had zones like Nibenay Valley between Cyrodiil and Morrowind. Was that a zone that got the axe, or may that still be buried in their zone planning files as a possible idea? On the same map I think I also saw the Colovian Highlands, S. Summerset Island, The Sunforge, The Reach, etc.

Could some of us get some juicy tidbits of information?

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom, @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_KaiSchober , @ZOS_RichLambert ?

starkerealm

Probably all on the slate for "someday." Next thing up is, I believe, Murkmire. Which is getting retooled from a Craglorn style group zone to be solo friendly. But, I could be mistaken.

Either way, ZOS is probably going to keep filling in the map over time.

runagate

Parts of the world off the map exist in many different forms from just crude objects to give distant horizons an outline to pretty much completed areas that have no interactable bits to everything in between.

If you look to the east of Deshaan you'll see an unlabeled peninsula. I made it the equivalent of half a zone out across that area back in 2014. I think that's the place I'm thinking of. Weird oceans that have air then land underneath them. Gigantic flat fields of checkerboxes, some with writing on them one could only see from a Gods'-eye view far above (clearly the worldbuilder's notes on where they are when flying around making content). Whereas I've gotten into some areas long ago that lacked little except spawns and nodes "Clickyville" had even been completed for some places, with boxes and bags and such.

xeNNNNN

starkerealm wrote: »

Probably all on the slate for "someday." Next thing up is, I believe, Murkmire. Which is getting retooled from a Craglorn style group zone to be solo friendly. But, I could be mistaken.

Either way, ZOS is probably going to keep filling in the map over time.

hm I thought vardenfell was next due to what a certain character said at the end of the wrothgar main story and then with whats supposed to be happening in a certain city.

TheShadowScout

xeNNNNN wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Probably all on the slate for "someday." Next thing up is, I believe, Murkmire. Which is getting retooled from a Craglorn style group zone to be solo friendly. But, I could be mistaken.

Either way, ZOS is probably going to keep filling in the map over time.

hm I thought vardenfell was next due to what a certain character said at the end of the wrothgar main story and then with whats supposed to be happening in a certain city.

Vvardenfell is coming. Will it come next? Who knows? Its possible, but Murkmire was announced back in late 2014, so that predates the Orsinium announcement hinting at Vvardenfell...

In the end, it matters not. Plans are made, plans change, but as long as ESO is running, they will keep adding regions in DLCs every now and then. So... if you keep supporting ESO, sooner or later you will get Murkmire, Vvardenfell, and yeah, even Nibenay.

xeNNNNN

TheShadowScout wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Probably all on the slate for "someday." Next thing up is, I believe, Murkmire. Which is getting retooled from a Craglorn style group zone to be solo friendly. But, I could be mistaken.

Either way, ZOS is probably going to keep filling in the map over time.

hm I thought vardenfell was next due to what a certain character said at the end of the wrothgar main story and then with whats supposed to be happening in a certain city.

Vvardenfell is coming. Will it come next? Who knows? Its possible, but Murkmire was announced back in late 2014, so that predates the Orsinium announcement hinting at Vvardenfell...

In the end, it matters not. Plans are made, plans change, but as long as ESO is running, they will keep adding regions in DLCs every now and then. So... if you keep supporting ESO, sooner or later you will get Murkmire, Vvardenfell, and yeah, even Nibenay.

Actually it doesn't because the murkmire announcement was with the clockwork city announcement which is also in vardenfell.

If you remember they showed the clockwork city preview along with murkmire back then, it had no NPC's was just an empty rendered city concept at the time same with murkmire.

I agree with what you said last though, its true enough that things will turn up when its time if at all.

I just want the daedric war too start already and they better not disappoint me! I want to see my bae nocturnal.

Probably my favourite daedric prince from skyrim even though she only showed up once in skyrim visually.

In all seriousness I just want this war to be far more choreographed than what we've gotten from molag bals "invasion" because it didn't feel like an invasion it felt like "hey I just met you and this is crazy. So here is my anchor, be mine now maybe" you know until you...kill the boring stuff that spawn and "spin that anchor right round baby right round" and it disappears .... *sigh* the invasion could of been so much better

starkerealm

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Actually it doesn't because the murkmire announcement was with the clockwork city announcement which is also in vardenfell.

The Clockwork City is on the mainland.

The three gods of the Tribunal have their own cities. Mournhold is Almalexia's. Vivec's is named after himself, and Thee Clockwork City is Sotha Sil's. Vivec is the only one on Vvardenfel.

Now, The Clockwork City was accessible in one of Morrowind's expansion packs (Tribunal), but it was a linear dungeon crawl, and not present on the world map. (For that matter, Mournhold was also not on the map.)

Mirkmire footage has been popping up recently. Though it could be after Clockwork City, I honestly don't know, and haven't been keeping track. I also don't know if The Clockwork City will include the peninsula, and finish out the mainland Morrowind Map. If it does, that's getting into Telvani territory, which would be incredibly neat to poke around with. But, it could very well be a city based release (like Tribunal, ironically), where you never actually get out of the city you're adventuring in.

ArchMikem

They had ALL of Elsweyr in the pre-beta!?!%$

xeNNNNN

starkerealm wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Actually it doesn't because the murkmire announcement was with the clockwork city announcement which is also in vardenfell.

The Clockwork City is on the mainland.

The three gods of the Tribunal have their own cities. Mournhold is Almalexia's. Vivec's is named after himself, and Thee Clockwork City is Sotha Sil's. Vivec is the only one on Vvardenfel.

Now, The Clockwork City was accessible in one of Morrowind's expansion packs (Tribunal), but it was a linear dungeon crawl, and not present on the world map. (For that matter, Mournhold was also not on the map.)

Mirkmire footage has been popping up recently. Though it could be after Clockwork City, I honestly don't know, and haven't been keeping track. I also don't know if The Clockwork City will include the peninsula, and finish out the mainland Morrowind Map. If it does, that's getting into Telvani territory, which would be incredibly neat to poke around with. But, it could very well be a city based release (like Tribunal, ironically), where you never actually get out of the city you're adventuring in.

Ah I thought part of vardenfell was not just the island but a small edge of the mainland too including some small parts of the mainland 0.o
Idk my memory is a bit fuzzy territory wise.

Its been so long since ive played morrowind lol I really need to go back but the damned visual.....I just cant do it anymore maybe a few years back but now I guess ive been spoiled lol

baratron

runagate wrote: »

Anyone remember what the Oblivion gate symbol on Craglorn, Reaper's March and Nibenay meant? Were they supposed to be PvP zones? Adventure Zones?

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Actually it doesn't because the murkmire announcement was with the clockwork city announcement which is also in vardenfell.

If you remember they showed the clockwork city preview along with murkmire back then, it had no NPC's was just an empty rendered city concept at the time same with murkmire.

I was actually watching the QuakeCon 2014 video a few minutes ago, for unrelated reasons, and they showed Murkmire then along with the Imperial City, Craglorn and Wrothgar.

I am fairly sure that Murkmire isn't going to happen because otherwise the two Shadows of the Hist dungeons would have been left in that zone. But we'll see.

Valethar

Maybe it'll drop from the crates?

UrQuan

baratron wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

Anyone remember what the Oblivion gate symbol on Craglorn, Reaper's March and Nibenay meant? Were they supposed to be PvP zones? Adventure Zones?

I don't actually know, but from examining the map my guess is that they were intended to be the zones for each alliance after the main quest had been completed.

Remember that in pre-beta and early beta (at least I think this was the case in early beta - I wasn't actually there for it), you were locked to your alliance and wouldn't ever go to the zones of the other alliances, not even after completing the main quest. So there would have to be a place to go after Coldharbour. My guess is that these were those zones (notice that Tenmar shows up on that map as an AD zones, so presumably that would have been the 5th pre-Coldharbour zone for AD rather than Reaper's March, and Reaper's March would have been the post-Coldharbour zone). I'd also guess that they were all meant to be group adventure zones like Craglorn was when it was launched.