Suggestion: vMA enchants

NoMoreChillies

Instead of the final chest dropping weapons with undesired traits, can the chest drop the enchant only and allow Master Crafters to imbue it into a weapon of choice?

Lord_Eomer

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Instead of the final chest dropping weapons with undesired traits, can the chest drop the enchant only and allow Master Crafters to imbue it into a weapon of choice?

So far this game not rewards much to Master Craftets..

uFuqinwitme

I actually like this idea more than the token ones people are suggesting (I guess it is kind of a token anyway in this case) honestly as long as the enchant is BoP and binds the weapon it is applied to. If that is the case then this is a great suggestion.

The only thing I have to bring up is regarding the shield as it drops now; the fact it uses a tri-stat enchant and is part of the permafrost set. What would happen there? Would it carry the same enchant for shields as Hakeijos do or would it be something else?

NoMoreChillies

The Shield needs to be unique. Not part of a set. Since the 1 hand mace already has Sword and board skill #2 give the shield skill #3.
Suggestion:
Shield enchant - Your taunt skill now returns stamina equal to % of damage blocked.

uFuqinwitme

Yeah I agree with you man, but also use what the tank weapons have and add resistances or reduce block cost a bit as a one piece alongside that.

Either way the idea is promising.

Mike0987

But what would you do without endless relentless farming for the 0.0005% chance to get the piece you want. Currently nearing the end of farming for the Yuk, Draugr, Celestial motifs I need, not sure what to do after I finish. Maybe go fish'n till new years timeframe.

Neophyte

could be an option but some people may complain that that system has to be same for every trial/dungeon

bottleofsyrup

I've thought this before too. The weapons look so bad with some of my characters' styles so being able to place the enchantments on weapons of my style choice would be awesome and would solve the trait issue.

Solariken

This is brilliant. 10/10

NoMoreChillies

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

I've thought this before too. The weapons look so bad with some of my characters' styles so being able to place the enchantments on weapons of my style choice would be awesome and would solve the trait issue.

it would also give the new motifs another reason to use

xeNNNNN

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Instead of the final chest dropping weapons with undesired traits, can the chest drop the enchant only and allow Master Crafters to imbue it into a weapon of choice?

So far this game not rewards much to Master Craftets..

True but the idea is still pretty good, it would probably make vMA way more worth it now than it is currently as well as it gives you way more freedom and you aren't stuck with the dwemerish style weapons.

Mic1007

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

The Shield needs to be unique. Not part of a set. Since the 1 hand mace already has Sword and board skill #2 give the shield skill #3.
Suggestion:
Shield enchant - Your taunt skill now returns stamina equal to % of damage blocked.

Or they can make it a set with the Sword, adding this clause to the end of the enchantment: "This effect is doubled when the Maelstrom Shield is equipped."

Circuitous

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Instead of the final chest dropping weapons with undesired traits, can the chest drop the enchant only and allow Master Crafters to imbue it into a weapon of choice?

It'd be awesome if it just dropped the rune. Then you need a crafter to make use of it.

silky_soft

make this happen

Mic1007

Kingbawsack wrote: »

could be an option but some people may complain that that system has to be same for every trial/dungeon

vMA is unique in that nothing can be shared among the group (because there isn't one). It's all on your personal RNG to get your desired weapon. Everything else has a decent timeframe for the grind when done with the intended number of players.

Yinmaigao

I like this idea a lot.
However, I am skeptical about ZoS letting this happen. Too much potential for abuse by "double dipping". I.E. apply the enchant to a set weapon, now you get the set bonus AND the enchant power. A bit too powerful imo. It would need to have a lock on it or something that overrides set bonuses.

uFuqinwitme

Yinmaigao wrote: »

I like this idea a lot.
However, I am skeptical about ZoS letting this happen. Too much potential for abuse by "double dipping". I.E. apply the enchant to a set weapon, now you get the set bonus AND the enchant power. A bit too powerful imo. It would need to have a lock on it or something that overrides set bonuses.

Of course, in that case an override would work just fine, or even if they are too lazy to code something like that just have it so the enchant can only be applied to any weapon that is not part of a set, both dropped and crafted.

notimetocare

Circuitous wrote: »

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Instead of the final chest dropping weapons with undesired traits, can the chest drop the enchant only and allow Master Crafters to imbue it into a weapon of choice?

It'd be awesome if it just dropped the rune. Then you need a crafter to make use of it.

This would only matter if crafting was hard, everyone has a character that can make a max enchant.

Circuitous

notimetocare wrote: »

Circuitous wrote: »

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

Instead of the final chest dropping weapons with undesired traits, can the chest drop the enchant only and allow Master Crafters to imbue it into a weapon of choice?

It'd be awesome if it just dropped the rune. Then you need a crafter to make use of it.

This would only matter if crafting was hard, everyone has a character that can make a max enchant.

Good point.

Czirne

I suggested this few months back... probably not gonna happen.
With enchants you could get desired weapon type/trait and even style you want in one run -> people will stop running VMA and zos would have to create new hard and rewarding content.

NoMoreChillies

Czirne wrote: »

I suggested this few months back... probably not gonna happen.
With enchants you could get desired weapon type/trait and even style you want in one run -> people will stop running VMA and zos would have to create new hard and rewarding content.

There is still variety in the enchants people want.

Lukums1

Jezus it may be a " good suggestion "

Can you imagine twice fanged snake with those enchants?

Talk about PVE Overload

redspecter23

I think it should be assumed that the suggestion limits the enchant to being placed on a non set item. In that case, one can craft up any style they would like then place the unique enchantment on the item.

Abeille

I like this idea. But I assume drop chance wouldn't be 100% for this enchantment like it is for the weapons, right? Otherwise you would only have to complete it once per needed weapon.

Also, would we be able to put them on any set weapons? That might be overkill.

Eleusian

You know the destro staff & 1h enchants would rarely drop. It's a philosophical issue more than just drops. They have designed the game with sharpened & Divines being #1. They are making everyone that's not a lucky casino winner grind to get them. They will make us grind no matter the system. New loots will not change anything

visionality

It sounds like a charming idea as it would give you a 1:9 chance to get the desired enchant and then put it onto the weapon of your choosing. But if it's BoP and can only be implemented by mastercrafters ppl will only find a new (and rather reasonable) point to complain: the insane amount of time it takes to make a mastercrafter.

If you start a char now, it can hit mastercrafter in about one year due to the long research times even when fully accelerated.

Do you really want to tell ppl who finished vMA that in order to use their final reward, they need to level a char to mastercrafter over the course of months, possibly a full year?


Added: I would love to get some useful skill for mastercrafters though. Why not allowing mastercrafters to reforge equipement into any desired style? Ppl have been asking for that feature for ages, and this would feel like a real reward for achieving mastercrafter.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/280819/rng-based-vma-loot-concept-that-doesnt-make-you-want-to-rage-quit/p1

I tried this once, didnt get a response. At this point, any change would be welcome.

N0TPLAYER2

Won't happen.

If you get the enchant - you get what you need and don't Need to keep running it.

It's designed to keep you running it and the more you play the more likely you are to spend money. Simple as that.

Maelstrom is to free what loot crates are to paid content.

ScooberSteve

For the 100th time no.

NoMoreChillies

N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »

Won't happen.

If you get the enchant - you get what you need and don't Need to keep running it.

It's designed to keep you running it and the more you play the more likely you are to spend money. Simple as that.

Maelstrom is to free what loot crates are to paid content.

This grind is making me lose interest
There has to be a better solution.

f047ys3v3n

When vDSA was first released and they talked about ability based enchantments dropping there I though that was what they meant. It was not. What can I say. It has ever been that way. It was especially odd since many of the vDSA weapons were not actually worth forgoing a normal set piece for.