First signs of Free to Play model?

Lumbermill_Emperor

All over the stores in the internet timecards(60 days of ESO+) of ESO disappeared, only few/expensive offers left
i will not post 3rd party links here, just google "Elder Scrolls Online 60 days" for example

and i did some research about this, few conversations with sellers
i was told directly from one of the top sellers of kinguin
he told me that Zeni stopped selling time cards to anyone(to official re-sellers also)

the question is WHY?
i have only one answer for this - F2P incoming

P.S. pls keep constructive discussion here, no trolling/baiting

P.S.S Same things was before Buy 2 play model was announced - Zenimax stopped selling 6-month subscription plans

trav2609rwb17_ESO

This Khajiit just suprised that they would stop the subscription model as that is already optional as we already on B2P. Only change would be is if we saw major drop in price of the games - though there have been a few new sales drives so this one would be suprised. Crosses claws and hopes not true as that sometimes also increases the microtransacting (which is happening anyway it seems).

SickDuck

Hard to stay constructive here when OP itself seem to be trolling/baiting.

What is a timecard (since ESO is B2P already)? If it's ESO+ then how on Tamriel would benefit ZOS to stop them selling? Maybe pricing model gets revised?

AzraelKrieg

I wouldn't trust what anyone has to say on sites like Kinguin considering their overall reputations. They claimed they had a deal setup with some game via Linus Tech Tips some months back. Was a complete lie as the people at Linus Media Group knew nothing about it when it was brought with them on their forums. As far as I can tell, this is another F2P conspiracy topic.

Lumbermill_Emperor

first post edited to be clear for people who dont know what time card is

trav2609rwb17_ESO

This one just checked own account and sees that the option is still there for the 180 days. Think could be that with them being on stream that they reducing their retail methods and reducing them to a core few.

SickDuck wrote: »

What is a timecard (since ESO is B2P already)? If it's ESO+ than how on Tamriel would benefit ZOS to stop them selling? Maybe pricing model gets revised?

Timecard allows one to keep up ESO+ where one does not want to subscribe via creditcard. This is for those countries where credit cards are limited or for people who don't want to share their details over the net.

Lumbermill_Emperor

trav2609rwb17_ESO wrote: »

This one just checked own account and sees that the option is still there for the 180 days. Think could be that with them being on stream that they reducing their retail methods and reducing them to a core few.

ill keep my eyes on that option
if it will change... i dont know, will see

SickDuck

ESO may or may not get F2P at any point. Since you can get the base game dirt cheap with occasional discounts, one can say there's no real difference. But I don't think it would have to do anything with the sale of time cards.

Lumbermill_Emperor

time cards was cheaper than subscriptions..
will sub now

jedtb16_ESO

zos still sell 6 month subs..... i have it.

Abeille

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

zos still sell 6 month subs..... i have it.

When they removed the option before the B2P transition, they didn't remove it from people who already had it.

kevlarto_ESO

Free to play does not always mean they will not have the sub option, if they drop the sub that is shooting yourself in the foot, and free to play games at never really free to play unless your happy with the limited version they give you, I do expect at some point in the not to far future they will drop the charge for the client, lets face it I do not think there are many new customers for ESO left in the world at this point, most of the people that want to play this game have pretty much played stayed of left.

Malmai

Lumbermill_Emperor wrote: »

All over the stores in the internet timecards(60 days of ESO+) of ESO disappeared, only few/expensive offers left
i will not post 3rd party links here, just google "Elder Scrolls Online 60 days" for example

and i did some research about this, few conversations with sellers
i was told directly from one of the top sellers of kinguin
he told me that Zeni stopped selling time cards to anyone(to official re-sellers also)

the question is WHY?
i have only one answer for this - F2P incoming

P.S. pls keep constructive discussion here, no trolling/baiting

P.S.S Same things was before Buy 2 play model was announced - Zenimax stopped selling 6-month subscription plans

Game is cheap now i preordered the game and paid almost 90€ not it costs like 10€ or something i dont care for that but definitly they are going f2p like i said this is gnna be terrible just think how many new people will come and server cant even hold us now lag, rollbacks, pvp 5 fps and other goodies horrible...

Khenarthi

My 6-month sub renewed a few days ago, so the option still exists.

jedtb16_ESO

Abeille wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

zos still sell 6 month subs..... i have it.

When they removed the option before the B2P transition, they didn't remove it from people who already had it.

yes i know. just pointing out that the statement 'Same things was before Buy 2 play model was announced - Zenimax stopped selling 6-month subscription plans' is not true

Abeille

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

zos still sell 6 month subs..... i have it.

When they removed the option before the B2P transition, they didn't remove it from people who already had it.

yes i know. just pointing out that the statement 'Same things was before Buy 2 play model was announced - Zenimax stopped selling 6-month subscription plans' is not true

I think I misinterpreted your post then. I though you meant you are currently subbed to the 6-months plan, but you mean the 6-months plan appears as an option to you?

I am currently subbed to the 6-months plan but I can't check if the option is available if I go to manage my subscription, I can't access my account through my phone for some reason.

jedtb16_ESO

Abeille wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

zos still sell 6 month subs..... i have it.

When they removed the option before the B2P transition, they didn't remove it from people who already had it.

yes i know. just pointing out that the statement 'Same things was before Buy 2 play model was announced - Zenimax stopped selling 6-month subscription plans' is not true

I think I misinterpreted your post then. I though you meant you are currently subbed to the 6-months plan, but you mean the 6-months plan appears as an option to you?

I am currently subbed to the 6-months plan but I can't check if the option is available if I go to manage my subscription, I can't access my account through my phone for some reason.

ok... reason for my post is the original statement that zos stopped selling 6 month subs.... i know that is false because i have a six month sub. if you had the 6 months sub prior to the b2p thing you can continue to buy a 6 month sub but it is not offered to people who did not use the option prior to b2p.

i will go to my account now and check the renewal options.

checked it and my sub will renew middle of next month with the six month option.

SickDuck

You can check whatever you want it still won't make any sense. Before B2P they revoked the 6 months sub because no such thing exists now. They did it to avoid issues around people feeling scammed to pay a fee which no longer mandatory after game went B2P.

P2P mandatory sub =/= B2P optional ESO+ sub

SickDuck

One more thing. I don't know which country OP is talking about regarding to time cards. Keep in mind FX rates has changed a lot since ESO went live, but prices not. For example prices are still the same in GBP even after it fell significantly against the dollar after Brexit. Maybe it's a move to revise pricing especially after the success of 1T.

jedtb16_ESO

SickDuck wrote: »

You can check whatever you want it still won't make any sense. Before B2P they revoked the 6 months sub because no such thing exists now. They did it to avoid issues around people feeling scammed to pay a fee which no longer mandatory after game went B2P.

P2P mandatory sub =/= B2P optional ESO+ sub

no.... they simply stopped offering it to new players. if you had it prior to b2p you can still get it now.

Sa0n

F2P = Death of ESO.

Junipus

Malmai wrote: »

Lumbermill_Emperor wrote: »

All over the stores in the internet timecards(60 days of ESO+) of ESO disappeared, only few/expensive offers left
i will not post 3rd party links here, just google "Elder Scrolls Online 60 days" for example

and i did some research about this, few conversations with sellers
i was told directly from one of the top sellers of kinguin
he told me that Zeni stopped selling time cards to anyone(to official re-sellers also)

the question is WHY?
i have only one answer for this - F2P incoming

P.S. pls keep constructive discussion here, no trolling/baiting

P.S.S Same things was before Buy 2 play model was announced - Zenimax stopped selling 6-month subscription plans

Game is cheap now i preordered the game and paid almost 90€ not it costs like 10€ or something i dont care for that but definitly they are going f2p like i said this is gnna be terrible just think how many new people will come and server cant even hold us now lag, rollbacks, pvp 5 fps and other goodies horrible...

It was like that on day one, what's your point?

DaniAngione

There's absolutely no reason they would drop the subscription/ESO+ system even if they went F2P. Every F2P game that I know has some sort of "VIP subscription", LOTRO has it, SWTOR has it, EVE will have it soon once it hits "F2P", Aion has it, Neverwinter has it, ArcheAge has it, and so on... I could probably list every F2P MMORPG here.
There is no reason, it's just something which gives them profit and keeps games running. If ESO one day goes F2P, I'm pretty sure ESO+ will persist.

So, yeah, even if that is happening and the OP is being truthful, I don't see how it could be evidence of anything.

Lumbermill_Emperor

okay guys, we will see

JD2013

Any concrete proof there, OP or just postulating in the wind?

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